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Does low-sugar= low humor?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 16, 2012 at 3:15 AM

Does lack of sugar, or maybe just low-carb, turn you into a stoic zombie?

0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

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on June 08, 2012
at 02:24 AM

Since this popped back up again, I thought I should append my answer... Though my sense of humor is still intact, I have gone through periodic cycles that look like Raney's response here: http://bit.ly/Lh1372. Though if I am short with people, it comes less from feeling anxious, and more from that place of total clarity, where I have a very difficult time suffering fools.

Ddfdaa75ac9f47e01fc71162dd0d38dc

on June 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Agreed! My boss noted just the other day how much the executives appreciated my high-energy and super-positive attitude, which came to me once I hit about .75 on the ketone meter.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 07, 2012
at 04:33 PM

"Somewhat unstable" raw food dieters- yup, sounds like my experiences with 'em!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on February 20, 2012
at 06:13 AM

Note:: I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying, it looked like everything went blurry and black, and I couldn't walk straight. Hmm... actually, I believe my body was desperate for the fat in those Snickers, to be honest!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on February 20, 2012
at 06:12 AM

Note:: I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying. Actually, I believe my body was desperate for the fat in those Snickers, to be honest!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:10 AM

Note I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying. Actually, I believe I desperately needed the fat in those snickers, to be honest!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on February 20, 2012
at 06:05 AM

*@rammer:* That's right! That's how I got to the point where I would nearly murder someone if they didn't bring me something sugary to eat every 30 minutes. it was awful. 3 years ago, a day on my food journal would have looked like this: bananas and granola bar, cereal, more cereal, pretzels, chicken breast with rice or pasta, snicker's bar, sugary trail mix, jam or peanut butter on triscuits, granola bar, apples or bananas, I'm still hungry so some popcorn, chicken breast with a couple vegetables or pasta, a few cereal bowls or some crackers or more fruit before bed. AAAAHH!!!!!!!

Bb2adc4df725b56e99e0652c0feb4640

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on February 19, 2012
at 04:31 AM

You know what the solution to the crash is right? Eat more sugar. (Peat)

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on February 17, 2012
at 12:17 AM

Hah!!! Awesome response, thanks.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on February 17, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Great info, thanks for recounting that study!

7c8e227dd8d5bdd77febfdebaa78dc13

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on February 16, 2012
at 04:30 PM

When I've gone on a few days stretch of eating just meat I have not experienced a lack of humor personally. But maybe after eating just meat for very long stretches of time (months) may cause it?

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:10 AM

That is weird. When I ate only meat my mood was awesome!

59d367d77f4082717bade07508624db8

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on February 16, 2012
at 06:42 AM

It certainly did! It was actually the spark that made me shift my whole way of eating around. All thanks to Blue Bottle mixing sugar into their cold-brew without telling me.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on February 16, 2012
at 06:35 AM

interesting! your brain needed more glucose.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on February 16, 2012
at 06:32 AM

The phrase "grin and bear it" points to the fact that stoics have a well-recognized sense of humor.

0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

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on February 16, 2012
at 06:23 AM

Yes... well said

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on February 16, 2012
at 05:24 AM

LOL! Oh do tell?! Hey no matter what else I may be I'm damn funny!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

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on February 16, 2012
at 04:19 AM

Also does that mean that our Primal grandparents (or for you, great-grandparents) would be in a stoic mood all the time? Yeah, right!!

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on February 16, 2012
at 04:06 AM

Just because I laughed at this question doesn't mean I'm not a stoic zombie.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on February 16, 2012
at 03:55 AM

I've heard you called other things, Shari.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on February 16, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Ha! And a good point in your last sentence, too!

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on February 16, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Good point in that last sentence.

0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

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at 03:50 AM

That's fantastic

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0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

on February 16, 2012
at 03:48 AM

Stoic? Possibly. Low-humor zombie? Definitely not.

As someone who used to fall on the anxious and compulsive side of the spectrum, I'm grateful for the calm and clarity I got first after dropping wheat, then other grains, and finally going VLC/ZC. To me -- relatively speaking -- that seems fantastic... closer to what I kind of always wanted and idealized as normal. But I can see that for someone who was closer to the middle to begin with, a trip into deep calm might feel a little Vulcan. A while back I read the blog entry Lizzy mentions, and I get it.

As for the humor: For me, the clearer everything gets, the funnier everything gets.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Ha! And a good point in your last sentence, too!

0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

(701)

on June 08, 2012
at 02:24 AM

Since this popped back up again, I thought I should append my answer... Though my sense of humor is still intact, I have gone through periodic cycles that look like Raney's response here: http://bit.ly/Lh1372. Though if I am short with people, it comes less from feeling anxious, and more from that place of total clarity, where I have a very difficult time suffering fools.

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19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:36 AM

I think you got it the other way around. Sugar MAKES me a zombie, after I crash from the sugar induced hyperactivity.

My boyfriend had a major sweet tooth which is now completely cured with Paleo (munching on chocolates, candies, etc, all day long to the point he wasn't hungry for actual food) and he has always been stoic. He is still stoic, however =)

But being stoic doesn't mean you have no humor.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on February 16, 2012
at 06:32 AM

The phrase "grin and bear it" points to the fact that stoics have a well-recognized sense of humor.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:53 AM

Good point in that last sentence.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 16, 2012
at 04:19 AM

Also does that mean that our Primal grandparents (or for you, great-grandparents) would be in a stoic mood all the time? Yeah, right!!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:05 AM

*@rammer:* That's right! That's how I got to the point where I would nearly murder someone if they didn't bring me something sugary to eat every 30 minutes. it was awful. 3 years ago, a day on my food journal would have looked like this: bananas and granola bar, cereal, more cereal, pretzels, chicken breast with rice or pasta, snicker's bar, sugary trail mix, jam or peanut butter on triscuits, granola bar, apples or bananas, I'm still hungry so some popcorn, chicken breast with a couple vegetables or pasta, a few cereal bowls or some crackers or more fruit before bed. AAAAHH!!!!!!!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:10 AM

Note I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying. Actually, I believe I desperately needed the fat in those snickers, to be honest!

Bb2adc4df725b56e99e0652c0feb4640

(254)

on February 19, 2012
at 04:31 AM

You know what the solution to the crash is right? Eat more sugar. (Peat)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:13 AM

Note:: I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying, it looked like everything went blurry and black, and I couldn't walk straight. Hmm... actually, I believe my body was desperate for the fat in those Snickers, to be honest!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:12 AM

Note:: I tried very hard to eat healthy, I avoided candies and sweets. The Snickers I would eat as a last resort because they are available everywhere (vending machines, gas stations, etc), and when I had to eat, I HAD TO EAT RIGHT THEN, I couldn't wait or I would start shaking and crying. Actually, I believe my body was desperate for the fat in those Snickers, to be honest!

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3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:48 AM

Hmmm. Well, four months after going zero carb, I did my first stand-up routine in front of a full house. I was no Louis CK, but I don't think anyone called me a stoic zombie, either.

ETA: I have seen some some evidence, however, that believing that one's way of living, eating, exercising, or praying is not just best for oneself, but for everyone else on the planet, has the power to turn even formerly smart and funny people into self-righteous bores. And there sure ain't nothin' funny about that.

0607529af9b78bb5b178f7ffabdc4693

(701)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:50 AM

That's fantastic

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on February 16, 2012
at 03:32 AM

Heck no! I'm low sugar/low carb and I'm a regular laugh riot. Carb flu might make you a bit unpleasant but that's just temporary.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 16, 2012
at 03:55 AM

I've heard you called other things, Shari.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 16, 2012
at 05:24 AM

LOL! Oh do tell?! Hey no matter what else I may be I'm damn funny!

Ddfdaa75ac9f47e01fc71162dd0d38dc

on June 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Agreed! My boss noted just the other day how much the executives appreciated my high-energy and super-positive attitude, which came to me once I hit about .75 on the ketone meter.

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8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on February 16, 2012
at 04:53 AM

When I am VLC you could drop a nuke and I wouldn't give a pigs tail. Give me a Coke and I'm an anxious nut case.

Just started low carbing again. Let the nukes fly!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on February 17, 2012
at 12:17 AM

Hah!!! Awesome response, thanks.

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90f66d30d977b07694403b469b3f85c5

on February 17, 2012
at 12:00 AM

I don't feel this way at all! My mental state is far more consistent, calm, and generally positive. But I don't think I've lost my sense of humor in the least. I still have the same hilarious interactions with my friends and family as I've always had.

I do however, still drink wine and tequila, and occasionally smoke pot. Maybe that's what's keeping me from becoming a stoic zombie. :)

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D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on February 16, 2012
at 03:44 PM

Nah, I was at 2 weeks in ketosis around 50g carbs per day yesterday and i was freaking happier than I had been in months! I was making jokes that were actually funny, I was able to appreciate the good things that happened to me, and I felt good. I failed and ate sugar and carbs last night and today I am a sad, sad human. :( But the first few weeks I felt like my head was swimming in fog and I definitely wasn't up to joking. So I guess it depends on how long you can stick with it and individual differences.

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Febcfb45a6bec019a69101cfa8104d30

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on February 16, 2012
at 01:38 PM

In the book "How to Become Smarter," by Russian biochemist Nikolai Shevchuk, (which, despite its sensationalist title, is actually quite an impressive and well-researched book), the author describes mental changes that tend to be associated with certain diets, based both on his research and on self-experimentation. In short:

High-Protein Diet: Very low carb, high protein, high fat, no dairy (with meat cooked only in liquid at low temps) Greatly increased concentration and focus, improved fluid intelligence, decreased empathy, possibility of depression, but generally less emotional than other diets. Observable stoicism and apparently (from the outside) less of a sense of humor (although not necessarily inside).

Modified High-Protein Diet: Some servings (30-70%) of high-protein foods replaced with dairy equivalents Gives benefits of increased concentration and fluid intelligence; does not, however, lower mood or cause apathy. Effects can also be caused to some extent by replacement of red meat with fowl and fish, but this will reduce the mental benefits. Shevchuk also reports that the addition of grain extracts (water off the top of flour of some kind, preferably wheat, buckwheat, or barley, that has been soaking for up to 8 hours) can improve mood (possibly due to starch).

Raw diet comprised only of vegetables, fruits, nuts, and grains ADHD-like symptoms, considerable energy, greater empathy and emotional intelligence, much higher susceptibility to emotional states of sadness and happiness. Somewhat unstable.

Shevchuk suggest that the negative effects of the high-protein diet are due at least in part to mutagenic compounds formed in cooked meat, which can cause subtle mood changes.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on February 17, 2012
at 12:16 AM

Great info, thanks for recounting that study!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on June 07, 2012
at 04:33 PM

"Somewhat unstable" raw food dieters- yup, sounds like my experiences with 'em!

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7c8e227dd8d5bdd77febfdebaa78dc13

on February 16, 2012
at 03:25 AM

I haven't experienced it, but "Peggy the Primal Parent" wrote a blog post about eating almost a 100% raw meat carnivore diet which she believed caused her to act Vulcan-ish (lack of emotions). When she re-introduced sugar back into her diet, she claims it cured her apathy.

http://theprimalparent.com/2011/07/27/the-carnivores-dilemma-a-diet-of-just-meats-and-fats/

685e3c967e63b4eacccf02628fd9a3ac

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on February 16, 2012
at 07:10 AM

That is weird. When I ate only meat my mood was awesome!

7c8e227dd8d5bdd77febfdebaa78dc13

(185)

on February 16, 2012
at 04:30 PM

When I've gone on a few days stretch of eating just meat I have not experienced a lack of humor personally. But maybe after eating just meat for very long stretches of time (months) may cause it?

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on February 16, 2012
at 08:42 PM

For me personally, I was always very gregarious and loud to the point of annoying most who were not accustomed to my personality. Add my struggles with fighting a social/learning disability without drugs (my own issue is a total mind-mouth disconnect, interruptions, inappropriate comments, excessive attention whoring) and you get me... described anywhere between "eccentric" and "autistic" and all spectrums in-between.

Now I am much more contemplative, a bit more apathetic, and even a bit socially withdrawn. But, I can now think before I speak, the absence of this attribute has cost me more sleepness nights and its own fair share of tears in contemplating what went wrong with past friends, lovers, and family members, or why I was spoken poorly of behind my back.

Better to be an apathetic a-hole than an annoying idiot. At least, in my case.

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59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

on February 19, 2012
at 01:01 AM

SOOOOO interesting that you asked this. in the last couple months of being VLC under 20g Mond-Fri under 50 on weekends... All my friends, my boyfriend, everyone has commented on my new personality, which is stoic and doesn't laugh at anyone's jokes anymore.

So odd, i didn't even notice about myself. But then i realized that I haven't been funny or fun since I went low carb...so interesting.

I guess now i have to decide if its worth it.

I used to be so controlled by sugar, that i was funny after ice cream and angry and moody after the high...that was my old life.

I have been sugar free for almost a year now (no honey,no fruit, no sugar, not a drop other than stevia) and that is when everyone noticed that i changed.

My boyfriend hates it, cause he is goofy and i just stare at him after his jokes now, i don't laugh.

Will you change your ways of eating to increase laugher and fun? Thoughts....?

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on February 16, 2012
at 03:55 AM

I feel like this has happened to me...

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on June 07, 2012
at 07:54 PM

Not if Peter at Hyperlipid is any indication: http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/

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on June 07, 2012
at 07:41 PM

I don't get it.
(That's a joke for all of you on a low sugar diet.)

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on June 07, 2012
at 07:24 PM

Sugar is required by the brain so that zombie state we feel if in keto is basically your mind telling you to eat more carbs imo.

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on June 07, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Tell us a joke and see!

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03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

on February 16, 2012
at 11:45 PM

Read this interesting post recently that talks about sucrose consumption and norepinephrine levels, which may impact mood/energy. Probably depends on how you respond to those changing neurotransmitter levels and react to the added stress.

I know I do better mood wise on a moderately low carb paleo diet rather than VLC. Husband is the opposite.

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