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Why no love for yogurt?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 02, 2011 at 8:25 PM

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoghurt :

"The Russian Nobel laureate biologist Ilya Ilyich Mechnikov, from the Institut Pasteur in Paris, was influenced by Grigorov's work and hypothesised that regular consumption of yoghurt was responsible for the unusually long lifespans of Bulgarian peasants."

I know it's entirely my choice whether to be eclectic versus 100% paleo but maybe someone can provide an argument. I thought yogurt was one of those foods that was unanimously thought of as healthy (until I found out about paleo the other day).

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on February 05, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I just found the cabot one yesterday. I haven't been using yoghurt for a long time, b/c they are generally too low in fat and too high in carbs, but this one is very promising. If I like it, I might eat it more often, just for variety.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on February 03, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Cheshy, I'm going to guess that he means actual fermented pickles, not just tiny cucumbers floating in vinegar like you'll find at most supermarkets. :-)

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on February 03, 2011
at 05:48 PM

Stephen, what do you meanby "real" pickles?

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on February 03, 2011
at 03:23 PM

the greek yogurt made by cabot is 10% milkfat, or made from cream. its un-freaking-believable. it would probably be part of my Last Meal.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 03, 2011
at 12:02 PM

Don't forget Kefir!

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on February 03, 2011
at 12:01 PM

This, if you can handle fermented milk, try other fermented(but non-pasteurized) foods. Sauerkraut, Kimchee, Real Pickles, Apple Cider Vinegar etc. But if you heat em up, you lose the benefit.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 03, 2011
at 06:14 AM

True, I will be trying ghee or clarified butter sometime to see how I do on it! = )

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on February 03, 2011
at 01:37 AM

cheers! its wine-night for me too.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on February 03, 2011
at 01:36 AM

i make mine in the crock pot overnight- its so easy, and increidbly rich. so much better than grocery store brands. i make it with soe grassfed raw milk i have in my area, but at 10 bucks a gallon, its a rare treat. the whey that drains off from thickening the yogurt is incredible to cook with, too. i USED to make bread with it. *sigh*

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Having something non-paleo every now and then is fine. Chocolate, wine, liquor ect. The problem is people who consume dairy usually consume it everyday. They always put butter all over their vegetables and meat. It's understandable that dairy is hard to moderate, people don't just consume dairy, they get their "dairy fix" just like a heroin addict gets his "fix" lol.

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on February 02, 2011
at 08:46 PM

I'm not sure that clarified butter can be thought of as such, Joe.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 02, 2011
at 08:32 PM

Dairy should be avoided in my opinion, it's not paleo and it contains exorphins just like gluten. It produces an opiod effect that is similar to morphine and heroin. That's why so many people rationalize why they don't want to cut out dairy and eat butter thinking it's a replacement for coconut oil, animal fats and lard. I'd avoid it completely, but that's just me.

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on February 02, 2011
at 08:32 PM

Whole, (preferably) raw milk yogurt made with no hormones? Heck yeah!

Non-fat, sugary nasty yogurt from Wal-Mart? Heck no!

Those of us who veer "lacto-paleo" are often down with the (unsweetened, whole milk) yogurt. I had some with breakfast just this morning. I also completely understand with those who just don't do dairy. After all, the benefits of cultured food that come with yogurt can easily be obtained elsewhere.

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(310)

on February 03, 2011
at 05:48 PM

Stephen, what do you meanby "real" pickles?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on February 03, 2011
at 12:02 PM

Don't forget Kefir!

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on February 03, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Cheshy, I'm going to guess that he means actual fermented pickles, not just tiny cucumbers floating in vinegar like you'll find at most supermarkets. :-)

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on February 03, 2011
at 12:01 PM

This, if you can handle fermented milk, try other fermented(but non-pasteurized) foods. Sauerkraut, Kimchee, Real Pickles, Apple Cider Vinegar etc. But if you heat em up, you lose the benefit.

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on February 02, 2011
at 08:34 PM

It's a problem for a lot of people. Usually if someone has been paleo/primal for a few months and still has issues with fat loss or bad skin, you can chalk it up to milk/yogurt.

Anyway, it's not unanimous. Robb Wolf has a lot to say about dairy proteins, so you could check there. Weston A Price also has a lot to say about pasteurized dairy, which they consider harmful.

Paleo people are usually unanimously cool with butter, and most everyone is fine with cream. I think everyone agrees that if you're going to eat it, eat it grassfed and as local as possible, and try to obtain products with gentler pasteurization, or just unpasteurized. And if you're having skin problems, appetite problems, or fat loss stalls, try eliminating it for at least a month and see what happens.

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on February 03, 2011
at 05:59 AM

Many are allergic to diary and most yogurt contains a ton of sugary flavorings, chemicals, hormones, etc in it. Most of it is basically a sugary milk smoothie desert diguised as a healthy food. But it's not. It's like when you go to the pancake shop and you see the kids ordering chocolate chip pancakes with 2 tons of syrup and whipped cream on it. And mom calls this 'breakfast' but really it's just desert disguised as breakfast. Most yogurt is like that too.

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on February 03, 2011
at 01:46 PM

I understand that Bulgarian yoghurt is made with cream. My husband makes our yoghurt. We used to dream about making yoghurt with cream, but used 2percent milk with maybe a little half/half. Since I discovered Kurt Harris at PaNu and Peter at Hyperlipid which both advocate cream because it has little or no casein, we've been making yoghurt with cream from grassfed cows. It is divine. Right now I am sipping my breakfast which is a cup of cocoa made with fair trade cocoa and cream, no sweetener. Yum

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on February 03, 2011
at 03:23 PM

the greek yogurt made by cabot is 10% milkfat, or made from cream. its un-freaking-believable. it would probably be part of my Last Meal.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on February 05, 2011
at 03:55 PM

I just found the cabot one yesterday. I haven't been using yoghurt for a long time, b/c they are generally too low in fat and too high in carbs, but this one is very promising. If I like it, I might eat it more often, just for variety.

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:27 PM

I now avoid dairy to see if it makes a difference in my health, but I was always pro-yogurt...with a caveat. I made it myself from locally sourced milk and "cooked" it for 24 instead of the recommended 12 hours. I understood that it increased its yogurt super powers, although my family preferred the taste of the 12-hour stuff.

Not paleo, I know, but neither is the glass of wine I'm having as I type.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on February 03, 2011
at 01:37 AM

cheers! its wine-night for me too.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 02, 2011
at 09:38 PM

Having something non-paleo every now and then is fine. Chocolate, wine, liquor ect. The problem is people who consume dairy usually consume it everyday. They always put butter all over their vegetables and meat. It's understandable that dairy is hard to moderate, people don't just consume dairy, they get their "dairy fix" just like a heroin addict gets his "fix" lol.

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on February 02, 2011
at 09:10 PM

I love Stonyfield's whole milk yogurt with the cream on top. I buy it once in awhile for a treat. One of these day I want to make my own yogurt.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on February 03, 2011
at 01:36 AM

i make mine in the crock pot overnight- its so easy, and increidbly rich. so much better than grocery store brands. i make it with soe grassfed raw milk i have in my area, but at 10 bucks a gallon, its a rare treat. the whey that drains off from thickening the yogurt is incredible to cook with, too. i USED to make bread with it. *sigh*

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