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H Pylori, dysbiosis and yeast: What caused it and how do I treat it?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 23, 2013 at 4:16 PM

I tested positive for all of these in recent stool sample from Metametrix.

What probably caused all of these to form in my intestines?

Does iodine work to get rid of H. Pylori?

What can I use to treat these, that isn't too expensive? I don't want to spend alot of money on something that may or may not work unless there is a significantly high chance it actually does work

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 24, 2013
at 02:38 PM

400mcg is alot of iodine in the kelp i'm taking. it's reasonable to be concerned with its purity, but i've already purchased it. it seems to be quite effective already, my hands are def not itchy this morning like they usually are :)

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on April 24, 2013
at 12:11 PM

I wouldn't recommend kelp because it doesn't have much iodine and I question its purity. I can suggest Standard Process Prolamine tablets (3 mg iodine), Lugol's 5% solution (6 mg iodine per drop), or Iodoral (12.5 mg to tablet, which can be cut in half). You will also need to take 200 mg selenium daily, which can be achieved my consuming 2-3 brazil nuts, to protect your thyroid. I think 6 mg iodine daily for 90 days could help. But there are side effects, .. do your research. I believe the antibacterial aspect of iodine helped me clear off some of my psoriasis. Again, do your research.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:20 AM

I've tried conventional treatment and it has not helped my problem.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:19 AM

Thanks, I hope though that it would not interfere with my thyroid function. I realize that now, although made assumptions, my bad. I'm thinking of trying Kelp.

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:16 AM

No, I said I cleared my H. pylori using conventional antibiotic treatment. I am suggesting iodine for you because you are looking for an alternative approach. Iodine is antimicrobial on contact, and it has systemic reach. H. pylori causes a systemic infection, not just limited to the digestive tract. So this is why I suggest you consider iodine as an option. Besides, iodine is not a drug but rather a nutrient. It does the body good. At any rate, in my prior post I suggested you discuss this with your naturopath. I'm merely offering a potential alternative.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:06 AM

The original search I performed was "iodine h. pylori" and didnt get results but then doing your search, i got some decent results so thanks :)

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:06 AM

You said you had success with iodine for H. pylori? Is it possible that through increasing thyroid function (with iodine) you increased hcl production, killing off your h pylori?

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 24, 2013
at 01:04 AM

I ordered some mastic gum for $15. The Manuka honey brands ranged from $25 to $50 for a small jar! Did you try monolaurin too? I'm trying that. I'll be sure to let people know if they're effective. I didn't see any iodine at my local grocer

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on April 23, 2013
at 11:26 PM

Mastic gum is also expensive when taken in quantity and for long duration, as required to kill H. pylori. I tried both mastic gum and manuka honey for 30 days and it didn't work for me. I should have doubled the dose of mastic gum and have taken it for at least 60 day. And I was stingy with manuka honey. But I will say the honey tastes awesome!

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on April 23, 2013
at 11:20 PM

Hmmm... doing a Google of both "iodine" and "bacteria" yields plenty of useful info. Also remember Betadine is used in all hospitals to wash out wounds because of its antifungal and antibacterial properties. Betadine's active ingredient is iodine (Betadine is for external use only). But you probably won't find much on H. pylori and iodine together. The medical community is enamored with antibiotics, especially drug companies. No money in doing something with iodine, which cannot be patented.

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on April 23, 2013
at 10:17 PM

I frankly don't see a lot of research which considers Iodine as anti-microbial nor its effects against H. Pylori

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

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on April 23, 2013
at 09:42 PM

is it necessary to do manuka honey? there are studies on it but they aren't conclusive + also it's expensive as hell!

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on April 23, 2013
at 08:12 PM

I agree, there is just not a lot of research. I don't like spending lots and lots of money but it looks like i may have to until I find something that works. I just need to start sleeping at night because the itching, the anxiety and whatnot are preventing it.

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75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on April 23, 2013
at 05:31 PM

Owen, here are the facts:

1) The only clinical studies out there proving successful H. pylori eradication involve taking one or two antibiotics and an acid blocker (ranitidine or omeprazole). I believe there has been a study involving a single dose of these meds but most involve 7-14 day treatments. So if you want proof this is all there is. All other claims are anecdotal.

2) If conventional treatment options are not suitable for you then you have to search what other people have done. I did this last year and came up with very little anecdotal info. You can do the same exercise yourself now and see what happens.

3) In your prior post I am the one who suggest iodine. Iodine is a very potent anti-microbial element, and it is not expensive. It should tamp down on your H. pylori although I cannot say if it will completely eradicate it. It will also smack down Candida and other yeast lurking in your body. Iodine, taken together with selenium (to protect your thyroid), does the body good.

Finally, you will have to do a LOT of research in order to come up with a short list of alternative strategies. Going by the words of myself or any one individual would be foolish.

Best of luck (and health) to you!

_Lazza

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:16 AM

No, I said I cleared my H. pylori using conventional antibiotic treatment. I am suggesting iodine for you because you are looking for an alternative approach. Iodine is antimicrobial on contact, and it has systemic reach. H. pylori causes a systemic infection, not just limited to the digestive tract. So this is why I suggest you consider iodine as an option. Besides, iodine is not a drug but rather a nutrient. It does the body good. At any rate, in my prior post I suggested you discuss this with your naturopath. I'm merely offering a potential alternative.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:19 AM

Thanks, I hope though that it would not interfere with my thyroid function. I realize that now, although made assumptions, my bad. I'm thinking of trying Kelp.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 23, 2013
at 08:12 PM

I agree, there is just not a lot of research. I don't like spending lots and lots of money but it looks like i may have to until I find something that works. I just need to start sleeping at night because the itching, the anxiety and whatnot are preventing it.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:06 AM

The original search I performed was "iodine h. pylori" and didnt get results but then doing your search, i got some decent results so thanks :)

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 23, 2013
at 10:17 PM

I frankly don't see a lot of research which considers Iodine as anti-microbial nor its effects against H. Pylori

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:20 AM

I've tried conventional treatment and it has not helped my problem.

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on April 23, 2013
at 11:20 PM

Hmmm... doing a Google of both "iodine" and "bacteria" yields plenty of useful info. Also remember Betadine is used in all hospitals to wash out wounds because of its antifungal and antibacterial properties. Betadine's active ingredient is iodine (Betadine is for external use only). But you probably won't find much on H. pylori and iodine together. The medical community is enamored with antibiotics, especially drug companies. No money in doing something with iodine, which cannot be patented.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:06 AM

You said you had success with iodine for H. pylori? Is it possible that through increasing thyroid function (with iodine) you increased hcl production, killing off your h pylori?

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 02:38 PM

400mcg is alot of iodine in the kelp i'm taking. it's reasonable to be concerned with its purity, but i've already purchased it. it seems to be quite effective already, my hands are def not itchy this morning like they usually are :)

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on April 24, 2013
at 12:11 PM

I wouldn't recommend kelp because it doesn't have much iodine and I question its purity. I can suggest Standard Process Prolamine tablets (3 mg iodine), Lugol's 5% solution (6 mg iodine per drop), or Iodoral (12.5 mg to tablet, which can be cut in half). You will also need to take 200 mg selenium daily, which can be achieved my consuming 2-3 brazil nuts, to protect your thyroid. I think 6 mg iodine daily for 90 days could help. But there are side effects, .. do your research. I believe the antibacterial aspect of iodine helped me clear off some of my psoriasis. Again, do your research.

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on April 23, 2013
at 06:51 PM

This worked for me: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/im-so-happy-i-have-h-pylori/

Clinical studies of manuka honey, momolaurin, and mastic gum are not going to be done because there's no money it.

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 23, 2013
at 09:42 PM

is it necessary to do manuka honey? there are studies on it but they aren't conclusive + also it's expensive as hell!

B120d28d9620626012de121b6075ce51

(134)

on April 24, 2013
at 01:04 AM

I ordered some mastic gum for $15. The Manuka honey brands ranged from $25 to $50 for a small jar! Did you try monolaurin too? I'm trying that. I'll be sure to let people know if they're effective. I didn't see any iodine at my local grocer

75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

(2506)

on April 23, 2013
at 11:26 PM

Mastic gum is also expensive when taken in quantity and for long duration, as required to kill H. pylori. I tried both mastic gum and manuka honey for 30 days and it didn't work for me. I should have doubled the dose of mastic gum and have taken it for at least 60 day. And I was stingy with manuka honey. But I will say the honey tastes awesome!

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