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Has your taste in women changed since going Paleo and changing your health?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 15, 2011 at 11:05 AM

I'm 23yrs old, former amateur boxing champion. Gained weight after my teenage years after stopping the gunner exercise. I lost about 60lbs over 1.5 years doing a Paleo Diet. Gained muscle, seems to have more testosterone levels too as I'm more energetic and my inner calmness/confidence have skyrocketed.

Anyways, I seem to now be mainly/only attracted instinctively to girls and even older women who are very curvy lol. seriously, i used to like cute girls and love banter. now I seem to be driven by my hindbrain or something, I almost ignore skinny girls now :/. Anyone have similar experiences or a change in how they view the other sex (men or women)?? =D

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 19, 2011
at 02:43 AM

so much approve. hehe.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 18, 2011
at 11:31 PM

hey, then if she can't handle it, then you are wasting your time anyway.

15c0cfc9e64ad10661692c9e42441074

(70)

on October 18, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I'm not saying I'm unhappy with myself! If I were, I wouldn't be doing what I do! But I haven't met too many men who dig it, Just intimated. I'm just strict Paleo and do a lot of CF. we do a lot of strength training though at my box.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 17, 2011
at 05:29 PM

I'm only 28, i'm starting to thin, bring it on baby

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 17, 2011
at 05:29 PM

lol, yeah that too

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:44 PM

@The Loon. I imagine in most cases the woman will just carry a bit more body fat, not be sufficiently muscular to do all the hunting for you. That said, I do recall a study which showed (broadly) that stressed men preferred women with bigger waists- the rationale suggested being that this showed higher testosterone/cortisol response and thus more resilience in harder conditions.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:21 PM

I never feel less-than. That was something from the 60's. I am not afraid to be an amazon and have never found there to be a deficit of guys who really like this look.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:18 PM

what's up with the bald guys trying to not look bald? I think everyone goes for mates who are confident and happy with themselves.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:16 PM

yea, but if you are paleo, then what about the fava beans?

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on October 17, 2011
at 04:14 PM

maybe it's hungry lazy men. If you can't get your own food, perhaps you can marry a hunter and have her take care of both you and the kids.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:12 PM

The culture's preference for skinny women is only about as recent as our fat aversion plan. I am old enough to remember back when it was fashionable to have curves. I think it is great that we are swinging back to a new standard, where health and vitality matter.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on October 17, 2011
at 06:03 AM

no problemo :)

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 17, 2011
at 06:01 AM

If you don't mind, what do you do Stacey? Are you a power athlete?

4ccf5d9bba64e54fc95802fe8ae33c47

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on October 16, 2011
at 08:07 PM

The 45 degree angle develops when you're stuck into ballet classes at an early age. And even if you stop as a teenager, like I did, and no matter how slim and trim or paleo or not, that angle stays for life. Fortunately there are no bears where I live.

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on October 16, 2011
at 06:22 PM

@PaleoDel - Sorry, we keep forgetting that when women express opinions, it's their right as humans, but males aren't allowed the same because it's inherently sexist. I believe the question he meant to ask was, "Has your appreciation for individuals who may or may not be the opposite gender, notwithstanding sexuality or objectification, been significantly impacted by going Paleo and improving your health to the point where other characteristics find themselves highlighted while in no way implying that the other traits previously admired are now flaws?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on October 16, 2011
at 03:17 AM

Have you seen the way Timothy Olyphant walks? Very straight shoulders, turns at the hip, and his arms barely swing. I don't think it's something he affects for the roles he plays, and it's a very distinctive gait.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on October 16, 2011
at 12:18 AM

this girl i used to see would do the same. thin but looked tired, worked her ass off (literally) to stay the hot korean girl she was. her rents opened a wing shop (im like zomg), and the entire month she was home, she had 10 wings total!!! so strict she was on her daily diet...until i bought her a box of famous Georgetown cupcakes. damn near swallowed the box within half an hr -_-

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on October 16, 2011
at 12:13 AM

cool beans (fermented of course)

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on October 16, 2011
at 12:12 AM

@paleoDel this is a paleo discussion, feminism hasn't existed yet :P. but in seriousness thats why i asked men or women too, and no my "taste in men" hasn't changed either. i prefer them to be Zach Galifianakis-ish

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 16, 2011
at 12:09 AM

i hate women who roll her eyes at the meat, then stuff down a plate of mac n cheese. hatin on meat is my pet peeve!

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(39831)

on October 15, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Sounds like really hungry cannibals.

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(2936)

on October 15, 2011
at 06:19 PM

@paleoDel - I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was a sexist discussion. I thought we were talking about killing and eating them. ;)

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:41 PM

LOL LOL LOL

E46d4f7e35e46ee4e8211ab4bc852023

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:39 PM

I'm much more aware of gait now too. So many people walk and run with their feet at 45 degree angles. I just think, if a bear was chasing you, you'd never make it with a gait like that.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:33 PM

Yeah you're right.

D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

(1453)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:26 PM

Yeah I totally found "taste in women" a little troubling in the thread title in a forum about food! (Though I agree a less sexist way of framing it would have been better.)

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:16 PM

I absolutely LOVE my husband's calves. Always have. And now that we're both doing Crossfit, they're even yummier. ;)

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:13 PM

That's FASCINATING!!

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on October 15, 2011
at 04:47 PM

Man....you two are awesome! A women who can put down a full rack of ribs (said in my best homer Simpson drooling impersonation). There are two things that come close to a real orgasm.....chowing down on some good food and watching a female chow down on some good food.....now that's FOREPLAY!

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 15, 2011
at 04:44 PM

What's up with the 50 year olds trying to look 12 again?

6498694060d879a7960b35913539b75f

(1307)

on October 15, 2011
at 04:13 PM

I'm a woman, and my taste in women has not changed. Please keep in mind that this isn't a boys' club. And women were not put on this earth for you to assess them.

03fa485bfd54734522755f47a5e6597e

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on October 15, 2011
at 03:41 PM

My tastes have changed a bit, skewing more brunette for instance; and I focus more on the eyes and hair now than the figure, although there's still definitely a range of hip-waist ratio outside of which I just won't feel it no matter what. But so many other things have changed in my life, including just getting older, that I couldn't credit any of it to diet.

93ae9f2d376e5426e891a9b58d8302fa

(2936)

on October 15, 2011
at 03:23 PM

Send me your skinny rejects.

220994a1bcff1923ef0388192bdba8d4

on October 15, 2011
at 02:46 PM

At 5'9", 165 lbs, and 36DD, this question makes me very happy. :) Way too many girls with proportions like mine spend a great deal of their lives feeling unattractive. Go cavewomen!

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on October 15, 2011
at 02:32 PM

For me it's ankles.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 15, 2011
at 02:32 PM

I can demolish a full rack of ribs, veg and some applesauce! I thoroughly enjoy my food :) I definitely eat more than some of the bigger chicks I've known.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on October 15, 2011
at 02:03 PM

I think it's a great question and wonder why no one thought to ask it until now...

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 15, 2011
at 01:27 PM

Hehe Nemesis. I also eat more, and more steak, than any of the curvy women I know... I have noticed that men love a big eater, no matter her size.

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(572)

on October 15, 2011
at 01:26 PM

I'm a fatty and can do that! (fatty used in the most lovingly way possible - sidenote to self)

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 15, 2011
at 12:40 PM

I'm skinny and I can do that, lol.

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on October 15, 2011
at 11:22 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one asking strange questions :D

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Medium avatar

on October 15, 2011
at 12:10 PM

I think it's your new Grok coming to and looking around and knowing that particular body shape is a good body shape to be attracted to for keeping the species going yes?

And as an older and curvy woman, let me say for myself and perhaps a few others, that I totally enjoyed being included in your new appreciation.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 17, 2011
at 06:03 AM

no problemo :)

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:12 PM

The culture's preference for skinny women is only about as recent as our fat aversion plan. I am old enough to remember back when it was fashionable to have curves. I think it is great that we are swinging back to a new standard, where health and vitality matter.

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15c0cfc9e64ad10661692c9e42441074

on October 16, 2011
at 07:01 PM

I'm a female with an athletic build. My physique has changed dramatically since CF. I get questioned all the time when I'm out about my back muscles or biceps. I simply explain to people what I do. But I will admit, it has been difficult to find someone who's actually interested in me because of the way I look. Sometimes I feel less girly compared to my twig-sized friends. But I'd rather be picked up by someone who appreciated my physique. Afterall, my preferences are specific as well: a paleo person and crossfitter. But most people just like to stare and not touch.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:21 PM

I never feel less-than. That was something from the 60's. I am not afraid to be an amazon and have never found there to be a deficit of guys who really like this look.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 17, 2011
at 06:01 AM

If you don't mind, what do you do Stacey? Are you a power athlete?

15c0cfc9e64ad10661692c9e42441074

(70)

on October 18, 2011
at 09:55 PM

I'm not saying I'm unhappy with myself! If I were, I wouldn't be doing what I do! But I haven't met too many men who dig it, Just intimated. I'm just strict Paleo and do a lot of CF. we do a lot of strength training though at my box.

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F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

(1363)

on October 15, 2011
at 04:55 PM

I don't think I'd want to reproduce with a woman who wasn't on some sort of a paleo diet.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:33 PM

Yeah you're right.

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on October 15, 2011
at 11:25 AM

Perhaps you're inadvertently calorie restricting and therefore hungry:

Consistent with predictions, hungry males preferred females with more physically mature features, specifically females who were relatively heavier, taller, and older.

http://137.140.1.71/jsec/articles/volume3/issue3/pettijohnfinal.pdf

30 hungry male participants preferred figures with a higher body weight and rated as more attractive heavier figures than 31 satiated male participants. Hungrier men were also less likely to be influenced by cues for body shape, supporting extant cross-cultural studies on female physical attractiveness.

http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/m.j.tovee/hunger.pdf

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(39831)

on October 15, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Sounds like really hungry cannibals.

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 16, 2011
at 12:13 AM

cool beans (fermented of course)

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:14 PM

maybe it's hungry lazy men. If you can't get your own food, perhaps you can marry a hunter and have her take care of both you and the kids.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on October 15, 2011
at 05:13 PM

That's FASCINATING!!

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:44 PM

@The Loon. I imagine in most cases the woman will just carry a bit more body fat, not be sufficiently muscular to do all the hunting for you. That said, I do recall a study which showed (broadly) that stressed men preferred women with bigger waists- the rationale suggested being that this showed higher testosterone/cortisol response and thus more resilience in harder conditions.

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22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

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on October 15, 2011
at 12:27 PM

Your not alone. I have a theory that it may be we are more interested in a "natural" look now that we are thinking in terms of Paleolithic living. Not that a women cant be skinny and have a natural look but we are so condition to equate skinny with plastic surgery, dyed hair, and women who order just salad with dressing on the side!

Since paleo, I now desire a women with a little meat on her bones who knows how to put down a 10oz Rib Eye, a side of veges soaked in butter, and a glass of wine. That's just sexy as hell!

Call it a primal instinct!?!?

22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on October 15, 2011
at 04:47 PM

Man....you two are awesome! A women who can put down a full rack of ribs (said in my best homer Simpson drooling impersonation). There are two things that come close to a real orgasm.....chowing down on some good food and watching a female chow down on some good food.....now that's FOREPLAY!

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

(1074)

on October 16, 2011
at 12:09 AM

i hate women who roll her eyes at the meat, then stuff down a plate of mac n cheese. hatin on meat is my pet peeve!

Medium avatar

(572)

on October 15, 2011
at 01:26 PM

I'm a fatty and can do that! (fatty used in the most lovingly way possible - sidenote to self)

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 15, 2011
at 12:40 PM

I'm skinny and I can do that, lol.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 15, 2011
at 01:27 PM

Hehe Nemesis. I also eat more, and more steak, than any of the curvy women I know... I have noticed that men love a big eater, no matter her size.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 15, 2011
at 02:32 PM

I can demolish a full rack of ribs, veg and some applesauce! I thoroughly enjoy my food :) I definitely eat more than some of the bigger chicks I've known.

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25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on October 16, 2011
at 02:58 AM

I now prefer human females. Go figure.

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 19, 2011
at 02:43 AM

so much approve. hehe.

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D1e0add4403a03ebc7a3e3c59f9c2426

on October 15, 2011
at 04:09 PM

I like mine grass-fed

D63a9a7789b948a1e88647f6c0e504ca

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:26 PM

Yeah I totally found "taste in women" a little troubling in the thread title in a forum about food! (Though I agree a less sexist way of framing it would have been better.)

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on October 17, 2011
at 04:16 PM

yea, but if you are paleo, then what about the fava beans?

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176ccb9c761ec8c45dbe60d43b6e9caf

on October 15, 2011
at 02:41 PM

I think my taste in women has changed, yes. Physically, I now value leanness(not skinny) and strength more than I did before. I associate this with vitality and health - looking the way evolution intended them to look. Also, I think that my own appearance has improved quite a bit due to Paleo + exercise and, forgive me for saying so, I that I've increased my standards of physical attraction in step along with it.

Non-physically, I still hold the same values except now it is also important for me to be with someone who same similar values on health and fitness because it is such a large part of my life... that is new.

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531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

on October 15, 2011
at 02:01 PM

I find extremes in both directions--excess fat, that super-emaciated look--more distasteful than in the past.

Here's a little story. I tried to have a relationship with a skinny girl who was always freaking out about cupcakes and muffins. And by this I mean that when we'd walk by a pastry shop, all she could do was go on and on about the pastries in the display window. She'd stop and stare and "ooh" and "aah." When I got to know her better it turns out she'd had a gastric bypass several years prior. Skinny body, fat brain. Three or four years ago I would not have had a problem getting together with a sugar addict but now it repulses me. She would eat stuff that she knew was bad and then be sick about it. Literally and figuratively. And to make matters worse, she was a nutritionist and highly married to the SAD dogma.

How did I end up with such an inappropriate match? Thank the friends at Chemistry.com. You see they matched us according to deep, deep compatability. We both like music, friendship, and puppies, you see, making us very nearly marriage material...

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:41 PM

LOL LOL LOL

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on October 16, 2011
at 12:18 AM

this girl i used to see would do the same. thin but looked tired, worked her ass off (literally) to stay the hot korean girl she was. her rents opened a wing shop (im like zomg), and the entire month she was home, she had 10 wings total!!! so strict she was on her daily diet...until i bought her a box of famous Georgetown cupcakes. damn near swallowed the box within half an hr -_-

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on October 15, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I notice forearms now. Have never done that before, but they've become weirdly important to me. I'm just going to go ahead and blame that on paleo :P

Oh! Also... The way a guy walks is important, another thing I never noticed pre-paleo. It's like one of those optical illusions, once you see it you can't UNsee it? Gait is now the first thing I'll see.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:16 PM

I absolutely LOVE my husband's calves. Always have. And now that we're both doing Crossfit, they're even yummier. ;)

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on October 15, 2011
at 02:32 PM

For me it's ankles.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on October 16, 2011
at 03:17 AM

Have you seen the way Timothy Olyphant walks? Very straight shoulders, turns at the hip, and his arms barely swing. I don't think it's something he affects for the roles he plays, and it's a very distinctive gait.

E46d4f7e35e46ee4e8211ab4bc852023

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on October 15, 2011
at 05:39 PM

I'm much more aware of gait now too. So many people walk and run with their feet at 45 degree angles. I just think, if a bear was chasing you, you'd never make it with a gait like that.

4ccf5d9bba64e54fc95802fe8ae33c47

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on October 16, 2011
at 08:07 PM

The 45 degree angle develops when you're stuck into ballet classes at an early age. And even if you stop as a teenager, like I did, and no matter how slim and trim or paleo or not, that angle stays for life. Fortunately there are no bears where I live.

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Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 16, 2011
at 06:55 PM

Personally I've always had certain notions of beauty very much in line with the kind of curvy cavewomen you describe. Some of this certainly may be because I found the super-skinny dyed hair, etc look a bit unseemly, and to boot such people were usually not that kind to yours truly.

That said, I have noticed that Paleo thinking -- not necessarily exclusively diet -- has made me appreciate the natural look even more. In a sense I see notions of beauty as forms of CW. If I'm going to challenge CW in my own lifestyle, shouldn't that also include selecting a mate?

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on October 15, 2011
at 04:39 PM

Before I met my wife I always dated older curvy women. I've always had a soft spot for the feminine full-figured women. Never understood the heroin look. Don't care for the athletic look either.

Always been that way no matter what diet I was on.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 15, 2011
at 04:44 PM

What's up with the 50 year olds trying to look 12 again?

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 17, 2011
at 05:29 PM

lol, yeah that too

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on October 17, 2011
at 05:29 PM

I'm only 28, i'm starting to thin, bring it on baby

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on October 17, 2011
at 04:18 PM

what's up with the bald guys trying to not look bald? I think everyone goes for mates who are confident and happy with themselves.

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on October 18, 2011
at 11:31 PM

hey, then if she can't handle it, then you are wasting your time anyway.

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on October 16, 2011
at 01:33 AM

Although I have always wanted to have children, I haven't always followed the clues and realized whether or not that good looking woman I am looking at is a reasonable candidate. So, basically, what I am saying is, going paleo has made me yet more picky. I do hope I haven't raised my standards to the point where it is impossible to have children, but I do acknowledge the possibility.

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