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emotions out of control on Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 08, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Been Paleo for about 6 months and am finding my emotions are a bit out of whack. I have found that I am lashing out and having extreme emotional reactions to several different types of life situations (sad, happy, stress, etc.) and therefore this is affecting my relationships (especially for those who are non Paleo and quick to blame my Paleo lifestyly)

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, advice please?

429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

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on March 10, 2012
at 06:23 AM

What is "dubious" about it? Fructose is usefull for quickly repleating liver glycogen and glucose scarcity is what I suspect is causing the surge in adrenalin.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

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on March 09, 2012
at 04:43 PM

Insufficient calories are definitely a possibility as well; sometimes keto feels so good that I don't notice the fact that I'm in a deficit until my patience and my ability to speak concisely have already gone to hell.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on March 09, 2012
at 09:47 AM

If you are worried about the effect potatoes/starches on your weight loss, you could certainly add a large portion of meat or eggs to both breakfast and lunch without worry (unsulin, yada yada), and see if you feel better. I get a little crazy and snippy if I don't have a meaty meal within a few hours of waking sometimes. Fruit for breakfast makes me even more nuts, I've experimented with banana only breakfasts a few times this week, and my patience was shot to hell. I'm guessing you are only getting about half the calories you need, especially if you are working out hard.

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on March 09, 2012
at 04:20 AM

I'm experiencing very similar symptoms, glad to know that there are answers/solutions to it. Thanks for asking!

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on March 09, 2012
at 02:39 AM

Hm, if you eat just coffee, a salad, and then meat/roasted veg in a day, are you sure you are getting adequate calories? Might be a good idea to check your portion sizes and make sure you are eating enough.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on March 09, 2012
at 02:32 AM

Have a glass of orange juice.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on March 09, 2012
at 02:01 AM

Especially sugar? That's dubious advice, good sir.

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on March 09, 2012
at 01:57 AM

starch... carbs... whatever... glad you knew what I meant. :)

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:03 AM

Note: I'm not saying everyone has mood issues on VLC. But enough do that it's earned a nickname.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:01 AM

My husband has zero problems with LC/VLC. No emotional upset whatsoever. Depends on your wiring, I suppose.

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:36 PM

Are you getting enough quality sleep?

02538da916a9976ad2bea198cedada8d

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:34 PM

i only eat the dark chocolate on weekends with a glass of wine or 2 :) after a hard workout week

02538da916a9976ad2bea198cedada8d

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:32 PM

thanks for your answer, raney. the only sugar i eat is dark chocolate (90%) and blueberries some mornings. i did try and incorporate potatoes for a while, but i wasnt seeing the weight los progress i wanted, so i dropped them. my normal diet is berries or coffee with a bit of whole cream for breakfast, salad with lots of veg (nothing starchy) for lunch and then protein and roasted veg for dinner. i bought some 5HTP a month or so ago (another reco) and kind of dropped the ball on taking them regularly. other than that, i supplement with vitamin C, D, B and magnesium.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on March 08, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Are you saying that you're emotions were not out of control before you ate this way and now they are out of control? I'm just trying to clarify.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:18 PM

I am assuming here that you have pretty much cut sugar, completely cut gluten, and are in fact fairly low carb. More info would be helpful, if those assumptions aren't accurate.

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0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:16 PM

It sounds like you may have gone too low-carb. I'd try including some squashes and potatoes, maybe supplement with some 5-HTP for a couple of weeks and see how you feel.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on March 08, 2012
at 11:18 PM

I am assuming here that you have pretty much cut sugar, completely cut gluten, and are in fact fairly low carb. More info would be helpful, if those assumptions aren't accurate.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 09, 2012
at 02:39 AM

Hm, if you eat just coffee, a salad, and then meat/roasted veg in a day, are you sure you are getting adequate calories? Might be a good idea to check your portion sizes and make sure you are eating enough.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on March 09, 2012
at 09:47 AM

If you are worried about the effect potatoes/starches on your weight loss, you could certainly add a large portion of meat or eggs to both breakfast and lunch without worry (unsulin, yada yada), and see if you feel better. I get a little crazy and snippy if I don't have a meaty meal within a few hours of waking sometimes. Fruit for breakfast makes me even more nuts, I've experimented with banana only breakfasts a few times this week, and my patience was shot to hell. I'm guessing you are only getting about half the calories you need, especially if you are working out hard.

02538da916a9976ad2bea198cedada8d

(30)

on March 08, 2012
at 11:34 PM

i only eat the dark chocolate on weekends with a glass of wine or 2 :) after a hard workout week

02538da916a9976ad2bea198cedada8d

(30)

on March 08, 2012
at 11:32 PM

thanks for your answer, raney. the only sugar i eat is dark chocolate (90%) and blueberries some mornings. i did try and incorporate potatoes for a while, but i wasnt seeing the weight los progress i wanted, so i dropped them. my normal diet is berries or coffee with a bit of whole cream for breakfast, salad with lots of veg (nothing starchy) for lunch and then protein and roasted veg for dinner. i bought some 5HTP a month or so ago (another reco) and kind of dropped the ball on taking them regularly. other than that, i supplement with vitamin C, D, B and magnesium.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

(4875)

on March 09, 2012
at 04:43 PM

Insufficient calories are definitely a possibility as well; sometimes keto feels so good that I don't notice the fact that I'm in a deficit until my patience and my ability to speak concisely have already gone to hell.

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9140810eb28b318fb081c1f98c0989c8

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:59 PM

Funny, my emotions have been more stable. I try to keep under 50gm starch daily, though I probably hit in the 50-70 range more often. Perhaps I'm LC, not VLC? Not really sure.

9140810eb28b318fb081c1f98c0989c8

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on March 09, 2012
at 01:57 AM

starch... carbs... whatever... glad you knew what I meant. :)

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:01 AM

My husband has zero problems with LC/VLC. No emotional upset whatsoever. Depends on your wiring, I suppose.

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Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on March 08, 2012
at 11:48 PM

VLC made my emotions intense, esp temper. Adrenaline-like responses to even the smallest irritations, all out of proportion to events. Adding just a touch of yams and fruit helped, just enough to stay out of ketosis. I know you said you already tried potatoes, and I loved what ketosis did for weight loss for me, but quality of life became an issue...for my husband especially, who had to deal with dishes winging by his head whenever I got tweaky. :)

It's not unusual for emotions to get extreme with low carb. Atkins followers often get told they have "Atkins Attitude." It works the same for low carb Paleo. I have heard that heightened cortisol is to blame.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:03 AM

Note: I'm not saying everyone has mood issues on VLC. But enough do that it's earned a nickname.

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on March 09, 2012
at 03:48 AM

From your description of your diet, it sounds like you aren't getting enough calories. I know if I ate that little, I'd be a raging monster all day. Unless you're extremely inactive, you should probably be eating at least some protein with your lunch as well. You said you're trying to lose weight, but presumably you're trying to do that to somehow make your life better. Is your life better right now? Wouldn't it make your life better overall to lose the weight a little more slowly and keep your sanity in the process?

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429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

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on March 09, 2012
at 01:59 AM

I used to get almost bipolar like that, when I got my calories down too low. It's adrenalin due to stress. I think there is far to much stress in our modern enviroment for most of us to be able to mimic the diet of paleolithic Europe.

I'd just eat more, especially starch and sugar.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on March 09, 2012
at 02:01 AM

Especially sugar? That's dubious advice, good sir.

429e01b74c31847aed3af35ef9973256

(427)

on March 10, 2012
at 06:23 AM

What is "dubious" about it? Fructose is usefull for quickly repleating liver glycogen and glucose scarcity is what I suspect is causing the surge in adrenalin.

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on March 09, 2012
at 09:18 AM

I had the EXACT same problem once I started paleo. How many carbs, particulary starch do you eat per day?I realised that low-carb paleo isnt for me, and now I eat about 90-150 g of carbs a day, including potato and my mood has improved heaps! Some people do better with more carbs in terms of mood. Try different amounts of carbs and see which amount is right for you. I find that the range i said above is perfect for me. If i'm lower than about 80 for more than two days, you better not piss me off!

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Meg, as raney and TeaElf said I think you should consider having 1 or 2 days per week when you eat more carbs--perhaps reduce your meat on those days. When I do that, it seems to increase weight loss rather than stopping it because it doesn't let my body get used to a way of eating that stays the same all the time.

Sleep is also important, of course, but you won't lose fat if you are struggling emotionally so I'd definitely give some carbs a try--small portions of sweet potato, rutabaga, rice or something like that or double-sized portions of non-starchy veggies like yellow squash or broccoli.

If there's something you like to eat or drink slowly and relax with, I'd definitely use that to help. I replaced my bag of chips for watching TV with a leafy salad, and I also find sipping coffee with cream and a taste of honey very soothing. Or maybe warm tea?

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on March 09, 2012
at 03:45 PM

if you were an emotional eater or if you used food to mood alter you might just be adjusting to no longer having that as a crutch. of course if you play around with yr macros and it gets better then that then forget this but if not it might just be how someone feels when they give up an addiction.

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on March 09, 2012
at 12:37 AM

Are you taking any vitamin, mineral or herb supplements? Can you give us a better idea of what your daily diet consists of?

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