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Decreased sex-drive since staring Whole30?

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Created May 29, 2011 at 8:22 AM

I've been eating low-carb/paleo for a little over 3 years now (about a 90% paleo diet...non-paleo things here and there but none in my house) and am doing the whole30 to get my butt back on track. I've normally got a pretty high sex drive. The past 4-5 days of eating whole30 I haven't been physically or mentally interested at all. Normally I need "something" every day or every other day (unless I have my period, then no interest at all either, so maybe it's hormonal?) so I'm pretty surprised at the dramatic decrease. Any ideas on what could be causing this?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 21, 2011
at 05:18 PM

The Quilt - You keep saying PCOS over and over here. If you personally have issues that fine. However, women can be PCOS and not be fat and women can be fat without PCOS. The two are NOT intimately linked in all women. Even going into starvation-mode (ala fasting) will not cause a non-PCOS woman to suddenly become PCOS.

C23ec4b85f3cbeb9ddf6bf78317d56e3

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on May 31, 2011
at 02:22 AM

he... she... doesn't change the content of the book...

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 31, 2011
at 01:57 AM

need to start thinking detox and adding liver supplements like I3C and NAC and feverfew curcumin etc. The last ten to twenty pounds of fat has all the toxins your liver has cleared stored in it so the body is loathe to let it go. That is why SAMe PQQ and choline start playing a huge role. Upregulate glutathione and increase methylation by increasing B vitamins and vitamin C as well.

2d5221fa80d04a3d8ac6f471f9feae81

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on May 30, 2011
at 05:40 PM

But normal would be nice. Running in economy mode literally all the time is scary. Maybe unless you max out on protein.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 30, 2011
at 11:22 AM

You don't want more leptin if your a resistant human......eating more carbs pushes your to impotence or pcos

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 30, 2011
at 11:20 AM

Menstruation and fecundity are directly controlled by leptin status not calories. This is why anorexics don't have periods and why fat women have trouble getting pregnant due to pcos......all caused by high leptin due to high reverse T3 levels. One woman is calorie deprived while another eats boat loads. Calories don't matter. Leptin status does

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 30, 2011
at 10:06 AM

Susie Wiley, ergo she :)

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

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on May 30, 2011
at 10:04 AM

T.S. Wiley is female :)

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on May 30, 2011
at 06:10 AM

@thomas: I'm trying to lose 10-15lbs and after experimenting over the past 3 years my body won't lose unless I'm on a VLC diet.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 30, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Danielle, do you want to get "something" every day or don't you? If you do, then you're going to have to start adding on the carbs. Why not?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on May 29, 2011
at 11:04 PM

here here. Adding carbohydrate back to one's eating, after a long time of LC or VLC will do wonders, one of which being get your action back.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on May 29, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Upping my carbs got me back on track.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on May 29, 2011
at 10:06 PM

oh men hahah :P

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on May 29, 2011
at 10:06 PM

I don't normally eat high carb... under 50 grams a day and that's if I eat a sweet potato for example

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on May 29, 2011
at 09:56 PM

And somehow I think "take a peak and tinker" has dual-meanings.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 29, 2011
at 07:32 PM

Definitely a Freudian slip!

C1c86f42410cd4788bd9c5cf801dcd8f

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on May 29, 2011
at 07:29 PM

Is there a chance that you could go into more detail on that one? I was always under the assumption that calories had a lot to do with it. From an evolution point of view, if in a calorie deficit women were unable to reproduce. Since in most cultures men ate first, women got left overs. So if there was not enough food, women were unable to have children. I don't remember exactly, but it might have been from Rob Wolf I got this idea in my head, or somewhere else I read it I do know.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 29, 2011
at 03:14 PM

calories have zero to do with it. The hormones do.....but the manner in which it happens has zero to do with calories.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 29, 2011
at 03:13 PM

fix not fox. Freudian slip? lol

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 29, 2011
at 02:25 PM

once you fox the metabolism then if problems still exist its time to open the hood and take a peak and tinker with the proper frame of reference

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at 10:35 AM

Thanks for your answer, Slim. That definitely is a possibility.... I can't remember my carb count being this low or being this strict for maybe 2 years.

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on May 30, 2011
at 10:37 PM

I noticed a big drop in libido when I was strict Paleo (in the Cordain/Wolf sense). This is in spite of eating as much fruit as I wanted and getting starch from sweet potatoes and squash.

My drive didn't kick back in until I switched to a low-carb Primal-style of eating (in the Sisson sense) with the big difference being the addition of a LOT more saturated fat from animal flesh, coconut, and high-fat dairy (cheese, heavy cream, sour cream, etc.)

My total cholesterol levels also jumped dramatically over the past few months.

Some other changes include a slight reduction in exercise volume and a slight increase in sleep.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 29, 2011
at 01:55 PM

Very normal......Its due to the changes in fuel sources at the hypothalamus. This is where food energy and sex drives all start. It will improve as your hormones catch up to the metabolic changes your in the process of retooling.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on May 29, 2011
at 10:06 PM

oh men hahah :P

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 29, 2011
at 07:32 PM

Definitely a Freudian slip!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 29, 2011
at 02:25 PM

once you fox the metabolism then if problems still exist its time to open the hood and take a peak and tinker with the proper frame of reference

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 29, 2011
at 03:13 PM

fix not fox. Freudian slip? lol

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on May 29, 2011
at 09:56 PM

And somehow I think "take a peak and tinker" has dual-meanings.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 29, 2011
at 09:45 PM

Just go back to eating high carb for a week. That'll put some lead in your pencil, although that's not really the appropriate expression for a woman. Oh, you know what I mean.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 30, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Danielle, do you want to get "something" every day or don't you? If you do, then you're going to have to start adding on the carbs. Why not?

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 29, 2011
at 11:04 PM

here here. Adding carbohydrate back to one's eating, after a long time of LC or VLC will do wonders, one of which being get your action back.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on May 30, 2011
at 06:10 AM

@thomas: I'm trying to lose 10-15lbs and after experimenting over the past 3 years my body won't lose unless I'm on a VLC diet.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on May 29, 2011
at 10:06 PM

I don't normally eat high carb... under 50 grams a day and that's if I eat a sweet potato for example

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 31, 2011
at 01:57 AM

need to start thinking detox and adding liver supplements like I3C and NAC and feverfew curcumin etc. The last ten to twenty pounds of fat has all the toxins your liver has cleared stored in it so the body is loathe to let it go. That is why SAMe PQQ and choline start playing a huge role. Upregulate glutathione and increase methylation by increasing B vitamins and vitamin C as well.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on May 29, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Upping my carbs got me back on track.

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1126a1fee74675cbeae108776c3899e8

on April 16, 2013
at 05:43 PM

so glad to read all of this! On top of all of the food changes, and the NO ALCOHOL...there's been minimal sex in my house! Very odd for us but especially for my man. He is a machine. :) I miss him. On day 28 of whole 30 and thinking of converting to a low carb type lifestyle after completion. Sleep is amazing and yes clothes are a bit loose which is nice. I miss my happy go lucky attitude and yes energy. I never experienced "tiger blood" but seen to have more energy consistently thru the day with no caffeine help. Has been a mostly great experience and made us both face some sad but true facts about our relationship with food (carbs) and alcohol too. Having to learn to entertain and like ourselves without numbing ourselves. Interesting!

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on May 30, 2011
at 07:19 PM

Calorie or protein deficiency can both trigger decreased sex drive. Sex drive is an indication of overall health. The purpose of life is to survive. Which is why we eat food. This includes physical survival, and also maintenance of the processes which maintain survival of our genes...sex. The first night of changed diet and decreased sex drive should have been a wake-up call. Change your diet immediately.

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2d5221fa80d04a3d8ac6f471f9feae81

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on May 30, 2011
at 05:18 AM

Potatoes will make you horny in no time. For goodness sake, please, at the very least have a large(150-300g) starch carb-up meal every Sunday to restore leptin, thyroid and glycogen. Cortisol train is gonna run you down in the long term!

2d5221fa80d04a3d8ac6f471f9feae81

(894)

on May 30, 2011
at 05:40 PM

But normal would be nice. Running in economy mode literally all the time is scary. Maybe unless you max out on protein.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 30, 2011
at 11:22 AM

You don't want more leptin if your a resistant human......eating more carbs pushes your to impotence or pcos

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 21, 2011
at 05:18 PM

The Quilt - You keep saying PCOS over and over here. If you personally have issues that fine. However, women can be PCOS and not be fat and women can be fat without PCOS. The two are NOT intimately linked in all women. Even going into starvation-mode (ala fasting) will not cause a non-PCOS woman to suddenly become PCOS.

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C23ec4b85f3cbeb9ddf6bf78317d56e3

on May 30, 2011
at 03:41 AM

T.S. Wiley talks about this (somewhat indirectly) a bit in his Lights Out! book. He says (paraphrased best I can remember) that during the summer months (when carbs were abound) people mated more. So perhaps a little higher carb will put things on track for you... I seem to do fine on a higher fat diet and < 65ish carbs a day (on average).

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on May 30, 2011
at 10:06 AM

Susie Wiley, ergo she :)

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

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on May 30, 2011
at 10:04 AM

T.S. Wiley is female :)

C23ec4b85f3cbeb9ddf6bf78317d56e3

(300)

on May 31, 2011
at 02:22 AM

he... she... doesn't change the content of the book...

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47e3c4dae51320812dd0f9ebc595cd79

on May 29, 2011
at 10:13 AM

Hi Danielle May be that you are simply in a calorie deficit and your metabolism has slipped into 'starvation' mode. This will ramp down a number of hormones, including thyroid and sex hormones. It may be the price you pay to get your 'butt back on track'. Things will return to normal when you get back into calorie balance. So don't worry about it...enjoy the rest!!

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on May 29, 2011
at 10:35 AM

Thanks for your answer, Slim. That definitely is a possibility.... I can't remember my carb count being this low or being this strict for maybe 2 years.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 29, 2011
at 03:14 PM

calories have zero to do with it. The hormones do.....but the manner in which it happens has zero to do with calories.

C1c86f42410cd4788bd9c5cf801dcd8f

(2246)

on May 29, 2011
at 07:29 PM

Is there a chance that you could go into more detail on that one? I was always under the assumption that calories had a lot to do with it. From an evolution point of view, if in a calorie deficit women were unable to reproduce. Since in most cultures men ate first, women got left overs. So if there was not enough food, women were unable to have children. I don't remember exactly, but it might have been from Rob Wolf I got this idea in my head, or somewhere else I read it I do know.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 30, 2011
at 11:20 AM

Menstruation and fecundity are directly controlled by leptin status not calories. This is why anorexics don't have periods and why fat women have trouble getting pregnant due to pcos......all caused by high leptin due to high reverse T3 levels. One woman is calorie deprived while another eats boat loads. Calories don't matter. Leptin status does

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