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Paleo: Worst sins to most pious behaviour?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 06, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Just clambered back on the Paleo wagon and I'm struggling with those tough first few days. It made me wonder about a heirarchy of sins! Which bad foods can I occassionally succumb to, and which must I steer clear of at all costs?

I really need to get out "The Paleo Diet" again, because I can't remember why the various "banned" foodstuffs are disallowed. I want to create a heirarcy of foodstuffs that "if you have to have something bad have X instead of Y instead of Z".

I'm less interested in the arguments over whether cavemen did or did not eat certain foods and more on the scientifically proven reasons why certain foodstuffs are good and/or bad for us.

It seems to me that many of the struts of the iet rest on each other - eg if you don't eat acidity-causing grains you won't need the calcium from milk which is highly insulinotropic.

Also, I remember reading that the first few days are tough and you feel hungry because your body needs to adapt to the new diet, so which foods could cause that? I don't want to be constantly feeling hungry!

According to the Wikipedia article on the Paleo Diet:

Pious: Meat, fish, vegetables, fruit, roots, and nuts

Sins: Grains, legumes, dairy, salt, refined sugar, and processed oils

Looking then at the sins:

Grains: carb heavy: carbohydrate restriction may help prevent obesity and type 2 diabetes as well as atherosclerosis, High GI, low in fibre, induce and sustain increased acidity of body fluid may contribute to the development of osteoporosis and renal stones, loss of muscle mass, and age-related renal insufficiency due to the body's use of calcium to buffer pH, contain bioactive substances, such as gluten and casein, which have been implicated in the development of various health problems.

Legumes: carb heavy- carbohydrate restriction may help prevent obesity and type 2 diabetes as well as atherosclerosis, high GI, contain bioactive substances, such as gluten and casein, which have been implicated in the development of various health problems.

Dairy: highly insulinotropic, low in fibre, contain bioactive substances, such as gluten and casein, which have been implicated in the development of various health problems.

Salt: The inverted ratio of potassium to sodium in the U.S. diet adversely affects cardiovascular function and contributes to hypertension and stroke, compared with preagricultural diet, induce and sustain increased acidity of body fluid may contribute to the development of osteoporosis and renal stones, loss of muscle mass, and age-related renal insufficiency due to the body's use of calcium to buffer pH

Sugar: High GI, low in fibre.

Processed Oils: Low in fibre.

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on October 07, 2010
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Why would you supplement fibre? Have a look at what Dr Eades says about it (search on his site). Grapes and apples are bags of sugar - the fibre is only touted because it helps us deal with the sugars.

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on October 06, 2010
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Is salt really our enemy ?

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on October 06, 2010
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Low in fiber is a good thing!

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on October 06, 2010
at 04:05 PM

Fruit is only seasonally pious. Even in the tropics, different fruits are available at different times of year. Gorging on fructose year round isn't healthy, especially if you've already broken your metabolism on the SAD.

As already stated by someone else, low fiber is good.

If you must eat starchy things, eat peeled potatoes, white rice, sweet potatoes, turnips, winter squash, etc. French fries are only pious if fried in a safe fat (beef tallow, coconut oil, palm oil, etc).

High animal fat is where it's at! If you must "sin", do it with high fat dairy (like heavy cream or natural aged cheese, but not sugar-laden ice cream) rather than with low fat anything.

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on October 06, 2010
at 04:02 PM

I'd just go strict at first to get over the cravings, especially if cravings are your problem and you don't seem to suffer any other side effects. CHeating will just drag out the cravings longer.

Then later, I definitely have a hierarchical system of better and worse cheats. Like if I have a sweet tooth, I'll eat a bit of dark chocolate. If I want bread, I'll bake some almond flour, banana, and egg muffins, slather on some butter and have at it. I can do these cheats once in a while and they satiate me and I am satisfied. However, some other things just lead me to more cheating, so I just avoid those completely.

There is no one answer to everyone as far as cheats. It depends on what triggers satiation and what triggers loss of control in each individual and both biological and psychological needs are very different for each person.

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on October 06, 2010
at 02:12 PM

I would include more under Processed Oils, e.g. "highly oxidizable fatty acids that, when oxidized, increase systemic inflammation", "high omega-6 content", etc.

Sugar could also be expanded significantly, but I'll leave that one for others to fill in since I don't have the time to do so.

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on October 06, 2010
at 01:47 PM

You got it! How can it be hard to stay Paleo when you read that :+)

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on October 07, 2010
at 06:33 AM

Kurt Harris has a nice hierarchy here.

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on October 06, 2010
at 10:52 PM

hi, i totally agree with everthing said, especially different trigger foods and such, but i was confused about why it is better to eat low fibre starches if they must be eaten than high fibre ones. I was concerned because i take psyllium husk as a fibre supplement, and never thought to avoid fibre, as it is found in the prefered carb vegetables and fruits, such as grapes or apples.

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on October 07, 2010
at 12:44 AM

Why would you supplement fibre? Have a look at what Dr Eades says about it (search on his site). Grapes and apples are bags of sugar - the fibre is only touted because it helps us deal with the sugars.

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