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Can you skip PWO meal? or Hack my PWO nutrition!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Training late before bed as its the easiest time for me, I tried waking up early in the morning past few weeks and it doesn't work well vs evenings.

I'm trying to eat 2 main meals a day for weight loss/maintenance and to simplify my life, breakfast after waking, skipping lunch but drinking coffee with cream throughout the day, eating probably around 6-7pm (10-12hrs between main meals) home by 9 to hit the gym for 45mins and try to be in bed by 11:30. Eating at 10ish doesn't work for me.

The odd schedule as noted in a different post is due to studying for my GMAT which I write in December.

I have some BCAA and I also have some whey protein isolate as well. Would either of those suffice as a post workout source that would suffice without eating a proper meal?

Not looking for massive gains right now, just looking to be able to maintain a workout routine and maintain overall fitness. Rec league soccer 2x a week M/W looking to do weights twice a week T/R with sprint work 1x a week.

So if I skip the PWO meal and go straight to bed is it bad? Or is a feed necessary? Can I use BCAA or Whey as a quick meal before bed?

Thx

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Okay. You could try fasting but only if you get plenty of sleep. You'd want to primarily do weights and take rests between sets. High-intensity stuff is going to be a stressor. The goal here being to minimize cortisol. Robb Wolf has rec'd biosig to track cortisol:testosterone, if you want to add some precision to this. You could also hit some PWO carbs to minimize cortisol. Whole food sources being tubers; less ideal white rice; less ideal maltodextrin/waxy maize powder. For BCAA, look up protein fasting and autophagy. There could be benefit either way. Tinker with it. Track your performance.

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Would BCAA be okay then on days when I skip breakfast instead and fast? So it would be meal at 6pm, workout at 9-10ish sleep at 11:30 wake up and not eat again till 1pmish, which means I am going like 16-17hrs without a meal and 12 of those after a workout.. just worried ill be going to the gym for no reason..

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I would stop the PWO since you state your goal is to lose weight. Then, track your performance numbers and see if they are consistent. If your numbers are in fact consistent, continue without PWO nutrition. If you see a strong delineation in performance, add the PWO nutrition back in.

Both the BCAA and whey are going to have anabolic effects via insulin and some other anabolic pathways. If you're trying to lose body fat, you want a catabolic environment in your adipose tissue. I understand you want to minimize this catabolic effect with muscle tissue, hence taking the protein supplements in the first place, but such supplementation could make it difficult to illicit fat loss.

4bf5827bfb7df85c5b4b485db0945e64

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on September 13, 2011
at 10:57 PM

Okay. You could try fasting but only if you get plenty of sleep. You'd want to primarily do weights and take rests between sets. High-intensity stuff is going to be a stressor. The goal here being to minimize cortisol. Robb Wolf has rec'd biosig to track cortisol:testosterone, if you want to add some precision to this. You could also hit some PWO carbs to minimize cortisol. Whole food sources being tubers; less ideal white rice; less ideal maltodextrin/waxy maize powder. For BCAA, look up protein fasting and autophagy. There could be benefit either way. Tinker with it. Track your performance.

698db94d83dee10d6ada8cc0128d45fc

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on September 13, 2011
at 06:00 PM

Would BCAA be okay then on days when I skip breakfast instead and fast? So it would be meal at 6pm, workout at 9-10ish sleep at 11:30 wake up and not eat again till 1pmish, which means I am going like 16-17hrs without a meal and 12 of those after a workout.. just worried ill be going to the gym for no reason..

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