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Weight, PMR, calories etc

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 15, 2012 at 4:05 PM

In 3 weeks I have managed to lose 6 or 7 pounds by eating this way (paleo) and feel good. I have had a few 70% dark chocolate lapses (not good). However some of that is just because PMT ended and I always lose weight then.

My question is about calories. I tend not to look at scales or count calories as changing eating habits for life is better but this time I want to lose at least 14 pounds more than I have so far (and ideally ultimately 28 pounds). I had assumed I could lose 2 pounds a week.

However I just calculated that for my age my basal metabolic rate (BMR) has the effect that if I eat 1700 calories a day my weight stays the same. ( I have been tracking what I eat on sparkpeople for 3 weeks). The last 7 days they are around 2000 and that is not indulging myself as much as I would like. Some days I eat as "low" as 1500 calories.

If I wanted to lose 2 pounds a week then I would have to eat 1000 calories a day less than the 1700 figure I need to keep still ie 700 a day which is just my healthy lunch and breakfast. Even if I wanted just to lose one pound a week which hardly seems anything I would have to get right down to 1200 calories a day. I don't know how people do it.

So unless I eat a lot less I am not going to lose weight, that seems to be the rather depressing thought. What I do eat is pretty good, lots of eggs, fish, kale, no processed foods (except the occasional dark chocolate - sugar is my nemesis - I was an addict). I had an avocado yesterday as I was so hungry before lunch and then saw they are 300 calories.

I am never ill. I am virtually always happy. I swim for 30 minutes every day. I put the weight on because I went off eating naturally and ate chocolate over the last 12 months and had a ski accident. I have always adored fish, eggs, meat. I often over eat fruit.

Anyway it seems quite hard. I suppose the bottom line is no will power. Also if I miss a meal I feel dreadful. IF disturbs my mental health and I won't try it again. It makes me want to binge eat.

I did buy this week some chronium tablet glutamine powder to help with cravings but that has not stopped me eating chocolate the last few days.

I do not feel good at this weight and do not look good. Even in my bikram yoga class now compared to a year ago I cannot do movements because of the lumps of fat in the way which stop me bending as if they are stuck on there like a fat suit.

(By the way what a good website this is).

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

(1169)

on August 16, 2012
at 06:36 AM

Just water retention before my period.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 15, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Well my point was that she needs to workout if she wants to lose weight. If she is going to workout, she needs to eat more. It's simple.

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(15976)

on August 15, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Eating more is not a good recommendation if your goal is to lose weight. Be more active, yes; eat more, no. Eat maintenance or est less than that.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on August 15, 2012
at 08:22 PM

Yeah what the hell are these terms? If you want to lose weight, keep tracking your intake but forget all the "this much in this time" stuff. Just establish a maintenance baseline of calories. then eat maybe 300 calories less than that for a period of time, say 3 or 4 weeks. Monitor. You will see you will have lost weight. Slow and steady wins the race. Boring but true. And try to be more active.

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

(1169)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:52 PM

I would certainly like to stop fussing over calorie amounts. I don't usually track them. I was just so cross about the 28 pounds and feeble failed attempts to lose them over 12 months that needed to see what was going in. Tomorrow....no chocolate, cold turkey. It's pretty simple for me - when i eat in the afternoons when not hungry I put on weight. When I just eat at lunch and dinner I don't. Almost impossible to get that break between those meals. My new bike comes in 10 days so that will help.

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

(1169)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:50 PM

That's really helpful, thank you. Whenever I have been able to give up chocolate/junk food and in particular for me eating nothing between lunch and dinner (virtually every afternoon even when I've been for a swim I eat when not hungry for the sugar hit as I am a total sugar addict. Sometimes I have got off sugar by eating loads of fruit and nuts, 1000 calories a time and I get so pleased to have stopped the addictive substance - I cannot eat a bit of chocolate.I have to eat every bit in the house and then drive out to eat more as it hits my brain like cocaine does (not that I've tried that).

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 15, 2012
at 06:21 PM

lol.... I think it was the "... by any reasonable tactic" part. :)

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 15, 2012
at 06:08 PM

lol I don't know how I made you laugh, but I'll take it! I had a guy at our lunch meeting yesterday comment on the amount of food I grabbed. He asked if I needed help eating it. I simply told him, "No, I'm going to consume it ALL and more. I had a heavy workout lastnight, and I'm having a more intense workout tonight." I don't have fasted workouts because I don't want to suck. I don't starve myself after my workouts because I don't want them to go to waste. Cycle those calories, in, out, in, out.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on August 15, 2012
at 05:57 PM

oh, and also because your answer makes sense.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on August 15, 2012
at 05:56 PM

+1 for being direct but not rude and for making me laugh.

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on August 15, 2012
at 04:12 PM

PMR, PMT? What???

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F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

on August 15, 2012
at 04:14 PM

You should consider eating more, working out harder than swimming, and thus consuming and expending more calories. Even if you got to your goal weight through this starvation, you won't maintain it by any reasonable tactic.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 15, 2012
at 05:57 PM

oh, and also because your answer makes sense.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 15, 2012
at 06:08 PM

lol I don't know how I made you laugh, but I'll take it! I had a guy at our lunch meeting yesterday comment on the amount of food I grabbed. He asked if I needed help eating it. I simply told him, "No, I'm going to consume it ALL and more. I had a heavy workout lastnight, and I'm having a more intense workout tonight." I don't have fasted workouts because I don't want to suck. I don't starve myself after my workouts because I don't want them to go to waste. Cycle those calories, in, out, in, out.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 15, 2012
at 08:25 PM

Well my point was that she needs to workout if she wants to lose weight. If she is going to workout, she needs to eat more. It's simple.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 15, 2012
at 05:56 PM

+1 for being direct but not rude and for making me laugh.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on August 15, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Eating more is not a good recommendation if your goal is to lose weight. Be more active, yes; eat more, no. Eat maintenance or est less than that.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on August 15, 2012
at 06:21 PM

lol.... I think it was the "... by any reasonable tactic" part. :)

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

(1169)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:52 PM

I would certainly like to stop fussing over calorie amounts. I don't usually track them. I was just so cross about the 28 pounds and feeble failed attempts to lose them over 12 months that needed to see what was going in. Tomorrow....no chocolate, cold turkey. It's pretty simple for me - when i eat in the afternoons when not hungry I put on weight. When I just eat at lunch and dinner I don't. Almost impossible to get that break between those meals. My new bike comes in 10 days so that will help.

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on August 15, 2012
at 05:52 PM

I'd up the fat (coconut/olive oil or grass-fed pasture-raised butter) to keep you satisfied and to avoid chocolate cravings which maybe due to your body trying to tell you it needs more fat. Chocolate is not a bad treat but if you're like me, you need to watch portions. Avocado is a great food and I consider it a fat so I would not avoid it but watch portions. Watch the sugar and limit fruit when you are trying to lose fat. For exercise, I'd add in walking and weight lifting (super important), keep swimming & doing yoga. For the walking, I prefer doing it outside in a hilly area. I'd not cut back on calories too much. Personally, I never go under 1800/day (BTW, I used to weight 400 lbs and am only 20 lbs from goal). Cutting calories too much will make your body hold onto fat and your metabolism will go down. Be sure to get at least 7-8 hours of sleep a night and drink COLD water (in ounces, half your body weight) with a little fresh squeezed lemon/lime.

When I get sweet cravings, I chew Xylitol gum (available at Whole Foods), it helps! And, try brushing your teeth - that works really well for me!

Best of luck to you!

6fece842bd1bcf5724f458a302a2156e

(1169)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:50 PM

That's really helpful, thank you. Whenever I have been able to give up chocolate/junk food and in particular for me eating nothing between lunch and dinner (virtually every afternoon even when I've been for a swim I eat when not hungry for the sugar hit as I am a total sugar addict. Sometimes I have got off sugar by eating loads of fruit and nuts, 1000 calories a time and I get so pleased to have stopped the addictive substance - I cannot eat a bit of chocolate.I have to eat every bit in the house and then drive out to eat more as it hits my brain like cocaine does (not that I've tried that).

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