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The more I read the more confused I am getting....

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 15, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Ok, I have become postively addicted to this site and the amount of information from my fellow "paleohackians" but I have to tell you I think I am losing site of what I am trying to do and how to get there. I am a largely healthy adult male (40 yrs old, 6'2", 226 lbs). No digestive issues or allergies, diseases (that I know of) and workout 5-6 times a week. I started this for the weight loss aspect (lost 30 lbs so far) not knowing just how AMAZING I would feel after making the migration. But my question is this... If I have cut out all processed foods, gluten, refined sugars, dairy products, etc. reffering to all the basic precepts of paleo. Do I really have to worry about all the elements that say a person with CD or some other food based allergen does? I have got to the point where I question every little thing I eat (and not in a good way) and then I read one post that says "this" is ok to eat then one that says "this" same thing is not ok. And almost invariably they have some hefty science behind their responses to support their conclusion so I dont know what to think. At the end of the day I just want to eat healthy, lose weight and be in good shape mentally/physically and do whats best for my body. I think I may be getting lost in the minutia of paleo and other paleo's and their unique health issue and need to realize I am probably doing all the right things but guess I just need to hear it confirmed. Feel free to weigh in and let me know your thoughts as any feedback is welcome. thanks!!!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 15, 2011
at 11:02 PM

The last bit is where exercise becomes critical.....

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:49 PM

So true, Chris! I've learned so much in the last year that has just completely blown my mind.

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:38 PM

ChrisO - 3 days/wk, mixing up routine between about 20 basic exercises. always at least 2 days rest between workouts. always repping to failure to activate the fast twich muscle fibers. I log and track everything I do, and increase weight when the exercise becomes child's play and takes too many reps to reach failure. no cardio, ever. But I do stetch and warm up for a couple minutes before I start, and I am considering doing intense sprints, but haven't dug into that as I don't know how I will incorporate it just yet.

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:28 PM

Thanks for the feedback, I feel a little better now. This whole transition has been such a 180 from what conventional dieting and lifestyle had been for me so I am trying to be a stringent as possible with paleo as it is the one lifestyle choice that has truly worked for me. I mean I used to think lean cuisine was healthy and now I look at it and laugh. You are better off eating the box it came in.

219ce991d8c94447870c824680de53e0

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:26 PM

jack, thanks for the info and let me ask you.. and since you look pretty ripped up and thats where I want to end up. What is your exercise regimen? Not asking how many reps you do on the bench and such but moreso how many days a week are your doing resistance training and how many days of cardio, etc? Just curious. Always looking to mix it up , keep my muscles guessing.

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:02 PM

Try reading through this thread... http://paleohacks.com/questions/30108/paleo-fatigue-no-im-not-talking-about-eating/30118#30118 but basically, it's about finding what works for you.

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:00 PM

amen to that! I felt the same way at first, but just stick with what feels right for you since you dont have any specific health related issues that might change things. Sounds like its working!!!

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:09 PM

Dr Kurt Harris put out a post on this type of thing a bit ago:

http://www.archevore.com/panu-weblog/2011/2/8/therapy-versus-life.html

Everyone ingests this stuff differently. For me, I love it. I can absorb and soak up and absorb more and be totally fine. It doesn't stress me out at all, or make me worry about the polyphenol levels in fruit or the dioxins in meat or the choline in eggs. Right now it seems like the world of nutrition is right smack dab in the middle of a tornado of conflicting information, so I can surely see how it can be overwhelming for people, new or not.

My attitude is that I love learning new things, especially the important things, but when this food knowledge is applied in real life, you've got to make a choice of how you want to execute it. Many people subscribe to the 80/20 or 90/10 rule. This is too keep sanity, and to balance life in our modern world, which includes the intervention of other people and their cookin's, oddball scenarios, and just pure intentional indulgence, which can possibly be healthier than being 100% strict.

Gotta manage the whole ball of wax (hopefully butterwax) in your own chosen way. You can do it. You're in the right place too.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 15, 2011
at 11:02 PM

The last bit is where exercise becomes critical.....

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on April 15, 2011
at 06:38 PM

ChrisO - 3 days/wk, mixing up routine between about 20 basic exercises. always at least 2 days rest between workouts. always repping to failure to activate the fast twich muscle fibers. I log and track everything I do, and increase weight when the exercise becomes child's play and takes too many reps to reach failure. no cardio, ever. But I do stetch and warm up for a couple minutes before I start, and I am considering doing intense sprints, but haven't dug into that as I don't know how I will incorporate it just yet.

219ce991d8c94447870c824680de53e0

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:26 PM

jack, thanks for the info and let me ask you.. and since you look pretty ripped up and thats where I want to end up. What is your exercise regimen? Not asking how many reps you do on the bench and such but moreso how many days a week are your doing resistance training and how many days of cardio, etc? Just curious. Always looking to mix it up , keep my muscles guessing.

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:31 PM

I have cut out all processed foods, gluten, refined sugars, dairy products, etc... Do I really have to worry about all the elements that say a person with CD or some other food based allergen does?

Apart from vegetable oils (which are perhaps included in 'processed foods') the avoidance of which is pretty crucial, I can't think of any other major paleo controversies you might be worried about...

Legumes are probably worth avoiding, especially if you're after losing weight, since even if the toxins aren't as bad as grains, they're still a somewhat dubious, not especially nutritious source of lots of carbs.

Nuts are definitely sub-optimal, in that even a handful will instantly double (or more) your omega-6 intake, and they're somewhat anti-nutritious. They may be worth including if you're struggling with carb-restriction and if weight loss is more a concern than long-term optimal health.

Eggs. Some people are allergic to the whites, if you're not, no problem. Worry about the omega-6, oxidised cholesterol etc at your leisure.

Tomatoes and other nightshades. Some people are discernibly sensitive. If you did have any digestive troubles you're trying to get rid of, then they'd be worth eliminating.

Oh and don't have excessive fructose, even if it's from fruit, but you're probably fine having as much fruit as you want, assuming you don't want much more than 5 pieces of fruit per day.

That's about all I can think of you might be worrying about...

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on April 15, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Stick with the basics: ~90% of results come from eliminating sugar/wheat/omega-6 oils. The rest is just niggling. Dairy, coffee, chocolate, beans, nuts, cheese, even fruits and veggies. We could discuss these all day long and not reach a consensus. That's okay, you have to make your own path through the woods - just stick with the basics and adjust as you go - if necessary.

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