After my frustrated post earlier in the week
Thank you to all that really did try and help me - I can be a cranky B when frustrated - I do appreciate all your responses.
I went back to my Naturo today and we nutted out all my issues and looked at my blood results and symptoms - we are going down the Estrogen Dominance route it seems to fit perfectly. He agrees that there has to be a hormonal imbalance for me not to lose weight on my current level of Nutrition. We are going to change it up a bit for a wk ( add in some more Broccoli and such ) and then look at sorting out my imbalance.
Anyone already gone this road ?? do you have any advice in relation to Estrogen Dominance and what worked for you??
Thank you! - trying to stay positive !
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on October 06, 2011
at 06:32 PM
I'm 48. Regular 28 day cycles. 11 months Primal (lacto-paleo.)
Prior to going Primal, I was experiencing estrogen dominance symptoms--insomnia, stubborn belly fat and spotting before my periods. After 4 months of Primal eating & fine-tuning my diet all my symptoms have gone. 11 months Primal now and have never felt better.
I never got tested, but read Dr. John Lee's book & other online info & it made sense to me. I used Pro-gest for a few months & it helped, but never eliminated the symptoms. For me, addressing deficiencies was the ticket.
Looks like menstrual cramps will be gone soon, now that I've added zinc--CD27 today & no cramps so far! Also, minimal bloating & moodiness this cycle. Zinc rocks! (Thanks again, Travis!)
I eat predominantly free-range eggs, 100% grass-fed ruminants & organic veggies. Gelatin & liver weekly.
D to sufficiency--for me this is 6000-8000 IUs
Magnesium 200-400 mg
Zinc 50 mg
B-multi 50 mg
C 1-2 gm
Krill Oil 1000 mg
on October 06, 2011
at 12:43 PM
Vitamin E is known estrogen antagonist, Grape Seed Extract too.
See more at Ray Peat: http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vitamin-e.shtml
on October 06, 2011
at 05:21 PM
Calcium D Glucarate and DIM are supposed to help Estrogen detox. .
Not to pry too much but do you have fat deposits on your ankle area? IE Cankles
on October 07, 2011
at 03:28 AM
I am having the same problem, I went back to my accupuncturist for hormone balancing. I had a baby a year ago, just stopped breastfeeding and everything went out of whack. Weight gain, hot flashes, night sweats,bloating, mood swings, you name it. I am just starting on Chaste Tree, taking extra Vit D, doing my apple cider vinegar drink each morning and evening with 1 Tbls Chia seeds (chia seeds for fiber to help flush out excess estrogen in the gut). Eating more fermented foods such as raw sauerkraut (great recipe in the latest Martha Stewart Magazine). Staying Primal in my diet. Perhaps some of this helps? Good luck. I feel your pain!
on July 27, 2012
at 12:19 AM
Finally, my third (so-called) expert on hormones (one MD and two NDS) knows what the hell she is doing. My issue was PMDD and it was severe. Not fun at all. Low thyroid too but even when that was fine the other hormones were whacky.
Its important for people to know that estrogen dominance does not usually mean that there is too much estrogen... it simply means that progesterone is too low.
This is a real pet peeve of mine since the first 2 docs only helped me a small amount since they recommend (stupid) Progon B (oral progesterone) instead of a progesterone cream and seemed to be overly focused on getting rid of estrogen, like it was some bad thing. WTH? So so so frustrating.
So much time and money and crap to deal with clearing estrogen (like Calcium D Glucarate and DIM). This might help some women but the reality for me is that I while I was Estrogen dominant (progesterone was too low), my estrogen, while in range was not optimal at all.
Once I got both Bio-identical progesterone AND estrogen, my brain quit freaking out every month - THANK GOD
on April 15, 2013
at 06:26 PM
Hi I'm currently and very slowly going through the process of diagnosis for oestrogen dominance My symptoms include. Extreme moodiness very dry itchy skin early periods very heavy my only relief was when on my period a blood test was taken while on my period an it was low which would make sense as to why my symptoms went at that time does anyone. else's skin suffer x
on February 24, 2013
at 10:20 AM
Estrogen dominance is a huge problem in the Western world. All the products we use and the way we are living causes this. Occurrences of PCOS and endometriosis have gone up. All the plastics we use especially heating things up in plastics like tupperware or saran wrap. My biology teacher in college told us that our estrogen receptors can receive the molecules from some plastics as they leach into our food.
I wouldn't recommend anyone with estrogen dominance eat red meat. There are lots of hormones and antibiotics in red meat in the US that's pretty bad for you.
Estrogen dominance and low progesterone levels are one in the same pretty much. The hormones balance each other so if you have too much estrogen you don't have enough progesterone to counteract the estrogen. So taking DIM to reduce excess and harmful estrogen types while using progesterone cream as well could help you. It's true that the liver helps rid the excess estrogen from your body. I also take a milk thistle supplement which is very good for you liver.
I have severe endometriosis and birth control and such never helped. I was in severe pain on pretty much a daily basis and I already had surgery to remove an ovary and two very large cysts. I didn't start to get better until I got a Mirena IUD which releases some progesterone directly into your uterus. I also started taking DIM and using progesterone cream. My OBGYN never mentioned any natural treatments but I brought up DIM and progesterone cream to her and she was really enthusiastic about it and said she thought I should definitely use them. It also took a few months before my symptoms really drastically improved. Just remember you cannot fix your hormonal balance overnight.
So having pain only once a month during my period and not having 7-8 day periods is like a small miracle for me. I also have to stay away from wheat/gluten, avoid dairy, any meats with growth hormones. It's worth to have a more pain free life, well a functional life. My energy levels and overall health as improved too.
on April 17, 2012
at 03:58 PM
This is so helpful Thank You for sharing all these cures, I will create a facebook page to address womens hairloss and bellyfat based on your answears has anyone here used Amla? a sort of indian grape.
on April 14, 2012
at 06:33 PM
Natural progesterone cream rubbed on the chest or inner arms (anywhere with thin skin). 1 mg daily, then if you get symptoms lower to 0.75 and so on until you reach 0.1. Thn skip days until you wean off. Took me a year but relieved all symptoms (insomnia, cranky, sore hands/feet, lethargy). I got it through a script but you can buy a natural mexican yam cream i heard. It saved me!
on October 06, 2011
at 08:49 PM
I'm pretty sure this is my problem. I'm going down the Ray Peat route for a possible solution, but I've only tried this for a few weeks, and I've still got amenorrhea. According to him, some fibre in the gut will help eliminate estrogen- he usually recommends raw grated carrot. If the stuff I've been trying works, I'll let you know. I've also started supplementing on top of taking chaste tree berry/agnus castus. I take 2g mangnesium citrate, 2g vitamin c, 1mg zinc, 10mg vitamin b6 and a Vitamin D, K and calcium chewie that has the UK RDAs for those.