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Am I eating too much bacon?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 06, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Female, 5'10, 200lbs looking to lose 30+lbs. Workout with personal trainer 3 days a week for an hour.

Eating schedule: B(10:30) Had 3 egg muffins with buffalo sauce and then throughout the morning from waking up to leaving for work at 12, I ate 9 pieces of bacon.

I'll most likely not eat the rest of the day. If I do i'll have a salad with tuna and balsamic vinegar.

Am I getting this completely wrong?

Also, how should I start IF? Bc I work out at 6am is it possible to eat in the morning and then fast till the next morning or is that completely backwards?

Any good lit to read on this stuff other than Mark Sissans Blueprint and Whole9?

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on March 07, 2012
at 03:40 PM

haha was just playing around Jennifer :) A few people I have introduced to the Paleo lifestyle freaked out with Bacon when reading the calories, I am pretty sure though that the caloric intake is decreased if you don't drink the grease :) Bacon+Eggs have been a staple for me for years!

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(2240)

on March 07, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Here is a link worth checking out for more info: http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/09/low-omega-6-to-omega-3-ratio-grain-fed.html

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

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on March 07, 2012
at 05:32 AM

As for PUFA (omega 6 and omega 3 are both PUFA), a common range recommendation I see around here is 1:1 to 5:1 for O6/O3. Chicken and pork are noticeably higher in O6, whereas grass-fed beef is closer to 1:1 ratio and fish/shellfish have more O3 than O6. The lower overall PUFA (say, 10g per day or less), the better. The average ratio for folks eating the SAD is something like 20:1 or worse. Just cutting out vegetable oils and other processed junk food goes a long way to improving this. Personally I eat fish a couple times a week which tends to balance out with my pork/chicken intake.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 07, 2012
at 05:21 AM

I suggest downloading cronometer (it's free here: http://cronometer.com/download/) even if you don't feel like actually tracking your food, you can add a food to your log (like say, a slice of bacon or a fried egg) and then look at it's nutritional content to get a better idea of what's in the different stuff you're eating. It breaks down into how much sat fat, PUFA, MUFA, etc. along with all the different vitamins and minerals, protein/carbs and such. Not 100% accurate, but helpful.

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on March 07, 2012
at 01:28 AM

what is buffalo sauce? like buffalo-wing hot sauce? do you make it at home or is it full of unPaleo crap?

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on March 06, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Lamb is delicious in the morning with eggs!

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on March 06, 2012
at 08:51 PM

Eggs's baked in muffin pan. I'm still trying to understand the whole omega6/3 ration and PUFA.

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 06, 2012
at 07:43 PM

I mean you don't need to get obsessive about it, but I might do a rough guess to make sure you're not at a low extreme like 500 or a high extreme like 3500.

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on March 06, 2012
at 07:15 PM

Wow. Up vote. Great article. What an eye opener.

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on March 06, 2012
at 06:18 PM

Having just started the Paleo lifestyle (2 weeks in), I'm still getting used to the fact that I'm even allowed to eat bacon let alone a lot of it compared to the 2 slices a week treat in the past.

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on March 06, 2012
at 06:15 PM

I have no idea how many calories im eating a day. Should I start to count just to see what I average?

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on March 06, 2012
at 06:04 PM

Is this what you eat every day? Seems to be a bit light on protein for your goals. Not exactly a big win in the micronutrients department either.

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on March 06, 2012
at 04:53 PM

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure that it's not even a real thing.

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F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

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on March 06, 2012
at 05:59 PM

Read this: http://whole9life.com/2011/05/the-bacon-bummer/

I think you should think of bacon as a condiment, not as a replacement for grassfed ruminant meat.

C79a5b43dfc5749200bd9dcaa6bb0858

on March 06, 2012
at 07:15 PM

Wow. Up vote. Great article. What an eye opener.

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698db94d83dee10d6ada8cc0128d45fc

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on March 06, 2012
at 04:44 PM

Too much Bacon? I don't understand the question.

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 06, 2012
at 04:53 PM

I wouldn't worry about it. I'm pretty sure that it's not even a real thing.

698db94d83dee10d6ada8cc0128d45fc

(1048)

on March 07, 2012
at 03:40 PM

haha was just playing around Jennifer :) A few people I have introduced to the Paleo lifestyle freaked out with Bacon when reading the calories, I am pretty sure though that the caloric intake is decreased if you don't drink the grease :) Bacon+Eggs have been a staple for me for years!

F5a8a6fa72a7c476cb666594ba0b81a7

on March 06, 2012
at 06:18 PM

Having just started the Paleo lifestyle (2 weeks in), I'm still getting used to the fact that I'm even allowed to eat bacon let alone a lot of it compared to the 2 slices a week treat in the past.

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on March 07, 2012
at 12:19 AM

As someone else mentioned, up your fat/protein and you should be on your way to weight loss. Oh ya, ditch nuts and sweet potatoes/starches if you want to lose weight (add them later if you choose).

I'm a big guy and have lost 25 lbs in 6 weeks (hardly any to no exercise either). Its not water weight either, trust me. Still steadily losing and not IF'ing either. Breakfast consists of coffee with coconut oil and a couple egg muffins (with some type of hormone/MSG free meat). Lunch is usually salad or other veggie and meat (various types). Dinner is a veggie/meat based meal (all kinds of things you can make). At least 80 to 100+ oz of water a day too.

I feel great (rarely hungry and no carb/sugar cravings). Another 10 lbs and I plan to start a light weight training routine a couple times a week with a couple moderate cardio days mixed in between (I'll really shred the weight then).

*On a side note, if you don't have access to or cannot get/afford free range eggs, grass fed beef, etc, don't freak. Hard core Paleo folks are all over this and it kills me. Get what you can afford. Just get somewhat leaner cuts of meat (or trim large excessive amounts off grain fed beef) and you'll be fine. Make sure to supplement with a quality Omega 3 supplement if eating this way (gets your Omega 3/6 ratio in check that way). All my bloodwork looks great and zero blood pressure issues to boot ; )

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0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 06, 2012
at 07:57 PM

Are you eating too much bacon...bacon...hmm...egg muffins. Egg muffins? As in egg on "wheat" muffins, or eggs baked in a muffin pan?

Oh BACON. There it is. 9 slices per day x 3 workout days per week? Well, I would be concerned with omega 6/3 ratio and overall PUFA in the long term, but in the short term my experience with bacon (or any other paleo-friendly food for that matter) says it's okay to eat a bit more if you are craving it.

Personally, after a good month or two chowing down on it, my taste for bacon has tapered off quite a bit. I attribute this to years of being extremely (self) deprived of delicious animal fat eating the SAD. The further I go into eating proper food, the more I notice my tastes/cravings/satisfaction relating to food coming into balance.

Keeping in mind the common wisdom about your own mileage...have your bacon. And eat it, too.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 07, 2012
at 05:32 AM

As for PUFA (omega 6 and omega 3 are both PUFA), a common range recommendation I see around here is 1:1 to 5:1 for O6/O3. Chicken and pork are noticeably higher in O6, whereas grass-fed beef is closer to 1:1 ratio and fish/shellfish have more O3 than O6. The lower overall PUFA (say, 10g per day or less), the better. The average ratio for folks eating the SAD is something like 20:1 or worse. Just cutting out vegetable oils and other processed junk food goes a long way to improving this. Personally I eat fish a couple times a week which tends to balance out with my pork/chicken intake.

F5a8a6fa72a7c476cb666594ba0b81a7

on March 06, 2012
at 08:51 PM

Eggs's baked in muffin pan. I'm still trying to understand the whole omega6/3 ration and PUFA.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 07, 2012
at 05:21 AM

I suggest downloading cronometer (it's free here: http://cronometer.com/download/) even if you don't feel like actually tracking your food, you can add a food to your log (like say, a slice of bacon or a fried egg) and then look at it's nutritional content to get a better idea of what's in the different stuff you're eating. It breaks down into how much sat fat, PUFA, MUFA, etc. along with all the different vitamins and minerals, protein/carbs and such. Not 100% accurate, but helpful.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on March 07, 2012
at 05:35 AM

Here is a link worth checking out for more info: http://healthcorrelator.blogspot.com/2010/09/low-omega-6-to-omega-3-ratio-grain-fed.html

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on March 06, 2012
at 05:18 PM

I would only be worried about excess sodium bloat from that much bacon. I've recently noticed that with my own 4-8 slices daily, introducing something as benign as 2-3 small pickles a day resulted in severe water retention.

Also, you aren't eating much "meat" by just having some egg cups and bacon. Honestly when I look back on my day's eating in the evening, I don't really feel like I've done it properly if I don't see at least 8-10oz of actual "meat" in my food log (excluding bacon and eggs).

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on March 06, 2012
at 05:04 PM

I had this question a while back ----->its over there-----> top of the related list. I think that sometimes everyone eats 9-10 slices of bacon. I don't think that is an issue. Even if you are eating that every day, it doesn't look like you are eating much else. I would really recommend listening to Robb Wolf's podcast show www.robbwolf.com and second reading his book (even though I haven't read it yet). Robb Wolf is of the opinion that IF should be the last thing you try, if you have the rest of your life absolutely sorted out, and still have issues. It sounds like you are a beginner, so first get your diet right (this might take a while) and make sure you are getting enough sleep (>8 hours a night, this is really important). I don't know if it is wise to jump in straight away with IF if you haven't been doing this for long. Eat your 9 pieces of bacon a few times a week, maybe eat less on other days.

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on March 06, 2012
at 04:47 PM

You could mix it up. Some mornings have wild salmon or beef or lamb.

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on March 06, 2012
at 11:00 PM

Lamb is delicious in the morning with eggs!

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on March 06, 2012
at 07:52 PM

I'd take a look at the food-reward theories. This really seemed to be the key for me. I haven't noticed that macronutrients made much difference for me but avoiding dairy which always makes me hungry and sticking with lightly seasoned, fresh, whole foods.

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on March 06, 2012
at 04:51 PM

For the food, do you have any idea how many cals a day you're eating? Ish? You might not be eating too much bacon if you're not eating enough food in general. Not eating is not Paleo.

For the lit, Robb Wolf's book The Paleo Solution, and Jaminet's book Perfect Health Diet are a good place to start. There are also numerous blogs (including Wolf's and Jaminet's), most notably for me chriskresser.com

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on March 06, 2012
at 06:15 PM

I have no idea how many calories im eating a day. Should I start to count just to see what I average?

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on March 06, 2012
at 07:43 PM

I mean you don't need to get obsessive about it, but I might do a rough guess to make sure you're not at a low extreme like 500 or a high extreme like 3500.

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