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What do you think about my eating log?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 02, 2011 at 11:20 PM

I started getting curious about how much food I'm actually eating, so I started tracking my intake last week. The details are here: My tracking experiment.

The bottom line for last week was

Average daily calories, and macronutrient ratios: 3,047 (76:23:1)

Average daily change in weight: -0.46

I'm female, 38, 5'6, and probably within 10 or 15 pounds of my ideal weight.

Even I am astonished at how much I eat, but it appears it isn't too much.

I'd be interested to hear comments or related stories.

3b7e6c77a5412587152c9e3f22b41c2a

(434)

on October 03, 2011
at 06:14 AM

She really did that. I watched! Signed, ambimorph's husband

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on September 02, 2011
at 01:33 PM

Same thing. I eat plenty of fat, tons of calories, I don't do any cardio (I have exams), and I seem to be getting leaner.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on August 22, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Although I don't regularly eat 3K/kcals a day, I also eat tons of fat, and used to eat even more. Many people who go Bear-style ZC ramp up our fat intakes, making sure to eat every last bit on the ribeye, for instance, and even adding butter on the top (I've done that, and often, too). The first six months of my own ZC journey, I averaged around 75% of cals from fat, and around 2,000 cals/day, and lost 40 pounds doing that. *And* I stopped going to the gym. Yes, the calories have to go somewhere, but the mystery of *where* remains. Because of my experience, I'll never buy simple CICO/ELMM.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on August 22, 2011
at 08:15 PM

I'm sure breastfeeding accounted for some of it.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on August 22, 2011
at 08:14 PM

I'm sure the calorie count can't be exact. I measured on a scale every bite that crossed my lips, but there's going to be some error. That said, the average of such errors over weeks and months should be fairly accurate. The coconut oil was in my coffee, so not a lot got left in the cup. I didn't really bother counting cooking oil. Of course I subtracted the weight of the bones! Yes, I was eating a lot of fat. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on August 22, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Self-flogging is not allowed on PH.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on March 04, 2011
at 05:53 PM

"I'd downvote my answer..." Kamal, you are both awesome and hilarious.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 04, 2011
at 03:37 AM

Most days I take a walk 15 minutes to an hour. About twice a week I do more intense aerobic exercise for an hour. I like lifting, and think it's important, but haven't done it for a few months. Other than that I sit around.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 04, 2011
at 03:33 AM

My temperature is usually low -- between 96 and 97.

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on March 03, 2011
at 11:28 PM

That's interesting; what sort of activity do you do?

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on March 03, 2011
at 11:28 PM

That's interesting; What kind of activity do you do?

07154e6d8e42065f230d06249700fe5b

(2057)

on March 03, 2011
at 02:37 PM

That's interesting. Do you think you could take your temperature? People keep talking point that and I wonder...

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 03, 2011
at 12:24 PM

Sure. I'm not saying the calories didn't go somewhere -- they must have. Of course I can't measure, but I don't think it can just be from breastfeeding, though. An older baby probably takes less calories, not more, since he gets most of his nutrition from other food now, whereas an infant nurses every couple of hours. Anyway, this is my third, and breastfeeding never prevented me from gaining weight when I wasn't eating VLC.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 05:44 AM

Motherfluffer, I just tried and it didn't work!

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on March 03, 2011
at 05:15 AM

I didn't know we could downvote our own answers.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 03, 2011
at 01:12 AM

I agree that a week is not enough to generalize from. It is the same basic diet I've been eating for many months -- it wasn't a change to ketogenic from non- -- but I think I've eaten slightly less this week than usual, because of the overhead of tracking. This may be why I've broken a recent stall. It does seem I must be disposing of 4750 calories per day somehow or other.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:51 AM

I'd downvote my answer, except that the water part is still good. Most UFC fighters lose ten or more pounds of water the couple days before the fight.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:49 AM

True true. Plus she notes that this is only the first of several weeks of tracking. But averaging 3,000 kcal/day and experiencing a weight change over a few days still does not constitute a totally meaningful measurement (yet!).

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:41 AM

But I'm guessing she's been doing this and losing real adipose for a while -- but just now has started keeping track of the calories for real. With the assumption that this is how she's been eating more or less all along.

F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

(3618)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:01 AM

I'm not surprised. When I'm on track I've found myself eating almost 3000 calories a day and still losing weight. I'm the same height as you and a year younger.

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on March 02, 2011
at 11:34 PM

Wow I am impressed if not a little jealous. Almost half a pound a day of weight loss on 3000 calories! Terrific!

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on March 02, 2011
at 11:24 PM

Fantastic. Proof - if ever there was proof - that weight loss is not just about "calories in/calories out". Huge thumbs up.

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2507b557331c8a674bc81197531e609a

(4994)

on March 03, 2011
at 10:34 AM

Haha! Nice!! I love telling people how much I eat when they "skinny bash" me, "you wanna eat dontcha, you're well skinny" well actually.......

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0adda19045a3641edac0008364b91110

(1146)

on March 03, 2011
at 05:20 AM

I have been eating about 3000 calories a day, and I can't gain weight, although I really want to. My diet is super high fat too.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on September 02, 2011
at 01:33 PM

Same thing. I eat plenty of fat, tons of calories, I don't do any cardio (I have exams), and I seem to be getting leaner.

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07154e6d8e42065f230d06249700fe5b

(2057)

on March 03, 2011
at 01:26 AM

I would count this as more displacement theory rather than a nail on the head of calories in/out. It seems like more of a measure of how many calories you are using producing breast milk. Is your son/daughter consuming only or a majority of their nutrition via breastfeeding? The ballpark for infants is what, 500 a day? I imagine it would take order of magnitude more for larger children. I suppose you could also factor in the fact that you're running around/carrying around kids all day, that would certainly raise your requirements further.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:24 PM

Sure. I'm not saying the calories didn't go somewhere -- they must have. Of course I can't measure, but I don't think it can just be from breastfeeding, though. An older baby probably takes less calories, not more, since he gets most of his nutrition from other food now, whereas an infant nurses every couple of hours. Anyway, this is my third, and breastfeeding never prevented me from gaining weight when I wasn't eating VLC.

07154e6d8e42065f230d06249700fe5b

(2057)

on March 03, 2011
at 02:37 PM

That's interesting. Do you think you could take your temperature? People keep talking point that and I wonder...

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on March 04, 2011
at 03:33 AM

My temperature is usually low -- between 96 and 97.

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:31 AM

Can I be a Debbie Downer? That's not half a pound of (tissue) weight loss per day, because a much higher caloric deficit would be needed, unless you have wacky metabolism or are taking a drug that uncouples oxidative phosphorylation.

That being said, you're breastfeeding, and that changes things. I've routinely gained and lost 5 pounds of water weight a week when doing ketogenic diets and bulks. Wrestlers gain and lose 10-20 pounds of water in span of two days. A 1-2 month tracking usually gives a good estimate though. In any case, I admire your food intake!

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on March 04, 2011
at 05:53 PM

"I'd downvote my answer..." Kamal, you are both awesome and hilarious.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:51 AM

I'd downvote my answer, except that the water part is still good. Most UFC fighters lose ten or more pounds of water the couple days before the fight.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 05:44 AM

Motherfluffer, I just tried and it didn't work!

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:41 AM

But I'm guessing she's been doing this and losing real adipose for a while -- but just now has started keeping track of the calories for real. With the assumption that this is how she's been eating more or less all along.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on March 03, 2011
at 12:49 AM

True true. Plus she notes that this is only the first of several weeks of tracking. But averaging 3,000 kcal/day and experiencing a weight change over a few days still does not constitute a totally meaningful measurement (yet!).

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on March 03, 2011
at 05:15 AM

I didn't know we could downvote our own answers.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on March 03, 2011
at 01:12 AM

I agree that a week is not enough to generalize from. It is the same basic diet I've been eating for many months -- it wasn't a change to ketogenic from non- -- but I think I've eaten slightly less this week than usual, because of the overhead of tracking. This may be why I've broken a recent stall. It does seem I must be disposing of 4750 calories per day somehow or other.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on August 22, 2011
at 07:33 PM

Self-flogging is not allowed on PH.

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22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on August 22, 2011
at 07:26 PM

This information brings up a lot of questions for me and I have to say I'm really skeptical. I wonder if you're calorie count is true and accurate. I just find it a little hard to believe that you're eating over 2000 calories of beef ribs on some days. Is that like 3 meals of beef ribs or is that a huge meal of beef ribs? Also of question is whether the weight of the bones is included in your calculation of how much you're eating and what the nutrition information assumes.

Are you eating your coconut oil straight? I use half a tablespoon to cook my eggs and not all of it even gets absorbed (if even most of it). Just because you're cooking with a certain amount doesn't necessarily mean that you're consuming that entire amount.

And maybe I'm completely off, maybe you are indeed eating 3000 calories a day, but I'd be a lot more comfortable believing your calorie count if it wasn't full of huge amounts of fat and ribs that may not accurately portray the amount of calories you're ingesting.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on August 22, 2011
at 08:25 PM

Although I don't regularly eat 3K/kcals a day, I also eat tons of fat, and used to eat even more. Many people who go Bear-style ZC ramp up our fat intakes, making sure to eat every last bit on the ribeye, for instance, and even adding butter on the top (I've done that, and often, too). The first six months of my own ZC journey, I averaged around 75% of cals from fat, and around 2,000 cals/day, and lost 40 pounds doing that. *And* I stopped going to the gym. Yes, the calories have to go somewhere, but the mystery of *where* remains. Because of my experience, I'll never buy simple CICO/ELMM.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on August 22, 2011
at 08:14 PM

I'm sure the calorie count can't be exact. I measured on a scale every bite that crossed my lips, but there's going to be some error. That said, the average of such errors over weeks and months should be fairly accurate. The coconut oil was in my coffee, so not a lot got left in the cup. I didn't really bother counting cooking oil. Of course I subtracted the weight of the bones! Yes, I was eating a lot of fat. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

3b7e6c77a5412587152c9e3f22b41c2a

(434)

on October 03, 2011
at 06:14 AM

She really did that. I watched! Signed, ambimorph's husband

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B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

on August 22, 2011
at 07:09 PM

Wow! I can't even bring myself to eat that much meat when I'm that deep in ketosis. It has to be the effect of breastfeeding, eh?

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on August 22, 2011
at 08:15 PM

I'm sure breastfeeding accounted for some of it.

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3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

on August 22, 2011
at 06:23 PM

Is that right, so you're doing a low-carb, fat-heavy diet. At most, your net carbs are in the teens? And some of your fat is butter, coconut oil/butter, tallow, etc. -- in other words, mostly saturated fat, non-solid fats.

Your egg consumption is, well, er, eye-opening. I eat 3-4 large eggs per day and go through 2 dozen eggs per week. Ur the only one who eats as many eggs as me!

You seem to be the poster gal for the Atkins metabolic advantage concept. It indeed works. Atkins used to say eat as much as you want, as long as you stick to fats and minimize carbs. You're ketogenic to begin with anyway.

When I was doing VLC, I used to eat around 2800 calories and I was full each meal, I mean literally! But I still lost weight and maintained my weight around 157 lbs. (I'm 5-10). My hunch is the metabolic advantage works to somethign like 3200 calories. You do max out there; I've done some experiments when I gained weight if I consumed more than 3200 and have heard anecdotal accounts of others doing so.

But I had to literally force myself to eat and nearly became nauseou. On a natural, meat-heavy diet, you become full real quickly. Just a spoonful of bone broth soup sates me instantly.

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