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weight loss to prom on ketosis - hopes too high?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 04, 2013 at 5:37 PM

hello there! so i'm paleo since a few months with some breaks. i also don't take the birth controll pill anymore and it seems like i lost 20 pounds (scale says this and some friends, but i don't see anything about this myself unfortunately). i'm about 130 pounds and 1,58m high. i wasn't in real ketosis until now and always had too much veggies and starches, i don't really work out much either (two weeks untill last exam, then i'll start doing more!).

my prom is at the end of the next month. what could i eat on ketosis ecxcept the regular eggs, bacon and beef? how much CAN i lose? i really want to look fine on that special day.

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on May 06, 2013
at 12:23 AM

Piling it on here, I've been in and out of ketosis for the past 6 months and I've never gone below 200g of protein a day (I weigh 180lbs).

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on May 05, 2013
at 11:04 PM

thank you! those 20lb went off a couple of months ago, like from one day to another (actually when i stopped taking bc), but then nothing happened. this is why i though being in ketosis would be helpful, but i'll stick to exercise :) oh and i found out 1 lb isn't a pound (thanks weird european/american measurements), i'm 64kg and look like 74kg (which i was before)

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on May 05, 2013
at 06:13 PM

I agree with Roth, I'm also way over 200g proteins and I'm in deep ketosis.

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on May 05, 2013
at 06:07 PM

I relied on Gary Taubes' analysis of the literature. If more recent RCT trials have disproved his hypothesis, I'm happy.

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on May 05, 2013
at 11:52 AM

Jakey, that's completely false. I'm in ketosis 24/7 and I sometimes eat over 200g protein daily.

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on May 05, 2013
at 11:23 AM

Roth you cannot go over 0.8g per kg of bodyweight of protein you will go into gluconeogenisis. Fat Percentage must be 80% or 90% with protein being the remainder

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on May 05, 2013
at 07:02 AM

Quick googling turned up this paper, supporting Matt's statements that exercise, here in the form of walking, can help with weight loss: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7555502

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on May 05, 2013
at 03:46 AM

No studies that exercise causes weight loss? Really? A simple Google search contradicts that. Will you quibble that they're not methodologically sound? Pfft. I made no change my diet a few years ago and ended up losing about 10% of my bodyweight doing nothing but walking and biking daily. I know, not methodologically sound, but something many folks have experienced.

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on May 04, 2013
at 10:11 PM

You can eat any food on ketosis that you can eat when not in ketosis. Ketosis = carb restriction, not food restriction.

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at 10:08 PM

Oh boy... prom season!

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on May 05, 2013
at 03:19 PM

Just a few observations--

  1. Congratulations on your 20lb. weight loss!
  2. 130lb. is a healthy weight for your height.
  3. If you've already lost 20lb. without going into ketosis, you probably don't need to be in ketosis. A modest weight loss of 1 lb. per week for the next 8 weeks can be achieved without going into ketosis and will keep you in the healthy weight range for your height.
  4. If you've already lost 20lb. and you can't see the difference, then more weight loss may not be the answer. Exercise may be more effective in improving your appearance and confidence level by prom time. I would suggest a program of walking, sprinting and resistance training for the next 8 weeks, which needn't be very time consuming. Sisson offers a free ebook that can get you started.
  5. Good luck!

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on May 05, 2013
at 11:04 PM

thank you! those 20lb went off a couple of months ago, like from one day to another (actually when i stopped taking bc), but then nothing happened. this is why i though being in ketosis would be helpful, but i'll stick to exercise :) oh and i found out 1 lb isn't a pound (thanks weird european/american measurements), i'm 64kg and look like 74kg (which i was before)

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on May 05, 2013
at 12:47 AM

Since you've recently stopped taking BC pills, I suggest that your first priority be re-establishing the balance between the major hormones that regulate weight (and a whole lot more) in females:

  • cortisol
  • estrogen
  • thyroid

It can take up to 18 months after stopping chemical birth control for a body, to return to a natural hormonal balance without hormonal support (either food-based or supplement-based).

Also, your body isn't just a machine, where you severely restrict carbs, and the automatic result is accelerated weight/fat loss. Bodies have feedback mechanisms, and if your body, for whatever reason, wants to lose weight at a slow rate, it will slow down your metabolism to make that happen. You cannot control either your amount or rate of loss, regardless of the events on your social calendar.

Also, for most people, it's not necessary to be in ketosis to lose weight. Nor is it necessary to exercise to lose weight. There are no methodologically sound studies that suggest that exercise causes weight loss.

Lastly, how do you know you're in ketosis? Do you have sweet breath or a metallic taste on your tongue all the time? Are you using some measuring device? The only reliable way I've read about is a blood ketone meter, not the urinary ketone strips. Those measure only one of the two types of ketones, and the one that the strips measure is the one your muscles stop using after being in ketosis for just a short while.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on May 05, 2013
at 03:46 AM

No studies that exercise causes weight loss? Really? A simple Google search contradicts that. Will you quibble that they're not methodologically sound? Pfft. I made no change my diet a few years ago and ended up losing about 10% of my bodyweight doing nothing but walking and biking daily. I know, not methodologically sound, but something many folks have experienced.

00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

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on May 05, 2013
at 06:07 PM

I relied on Gary Taubes' analysis of the literature. If more recent RCT trials have disproved his hypothesis, I'm happy.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on May 05, 2013
at 07:02 AM

Quick googling turned up this paper, supporting Matt's statements that exercise, here in the form of walking, can help with weight loss: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7555502

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