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TO WINE OR NOT TO WINE - that is the question?!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 09, 2012 at 4:54 PM

I have been doing "almost" Paleo for a month with no weight loss results. I say almost, as I still have not given up cheese and my daily glass of wine. (Gone are bread, pasta, rice, & grains). Have any of you noticed great results when giving up these 2 things - from no weight loss results? Did you feel better after? I have 20 pounds to loose.

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on December 03, 2012
at 03:30 PM

Ha, yes, that's technically true. However, wine/beer is fermented with yeast, although it is delivered mostly (usually) yeast free. It does not contain "probiotic" bacteria like yogurt or sauerkraut may have. Regardless, enjoy in moderation.

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on November 30, 2012
at 01:43 AM

Welcome! But what does this have to do with wine?

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on November 29, 2012
at 09:05 PM

A glass of wine definitely helps digestion. It is a fermented food, after all.

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Do they make tiny wine glasses for the mice in these studies? ;)

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Unless you are drinking a lot (a bottle in two sittings or something), as long as you remember is does have calories, it shouldn't matter.

0d0842381492a41b2173a04014aae810

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:56 PM

Wasn't it found that Das faked the resveratrol studies?

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:52 PM

pee yeeeew. Wine is health food. Resveratrol, anyone? :)

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:51 PM

+1 for prying it out of your cold, dead fingers. I also drink a glass of red wine with dinner, it's part of the meal for me and in fact a lot of people living in Europe. A good wine is like a good man...hard to find and hard to live without.

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:42 PM

"cutting the cheese" - heh heh.

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:32 PM

Try cutting both or try just cutting the cheese. Cheese tends to slow down digestion (or is that another fairy tale?), which would tend to misrepresent results. Are you clothes any looser?

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:28 PM

Dr. Eades has always maintained that nuts, cheese and alcohol can be weight loss roadblocks for many people. He should know, since he and his wife have been helping ppeople lose weight for decades (and he's pretty paleo friendly). Give it a shot, if you can manage it. Probably the only other way would be to meticulously count calories.

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A97b68379a576dfa764a4828304d2efb

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:40 PM

I avoided cheese for the first month I was doing primal and then something crazy happened - I completely lost the taste for it. I still have some from time to time (usually only goat cheese) but I am not the cheese-fiend I was pre-primal. My friends who eat a lot of cheese on primal seem to have a harder time with weight loss.

Someone will have to pry the wine glass out of my cold, dead fingers. I eliminated it for 10 days to see if it was giving me any trouble and then re-introduced it with no ill effects. It might have something to do with the tiny pooch I have around my belly but I won't be posing for any magazine covers any time soon, so I am keeping the wine.

Congratulations on starting paleo! Are you noticing any positive effects yet?

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:51 PM

+1 for prying it out of your cold, dead fingers. I also drink a glass of red wine with dinner, it's part of the meal for me and in fact a lot of people living in Europe. A good wine is like a good man...hard to find and hard to live without.

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:18 PM

Only way you are going to find out for sure it to give it a test..

You will likely get multiple answers on here that either will or will not work for you.

Remove the wine and cheese for a month and see what happens.

Speaking from self experience the alcohol, cheese and nuts slow me down but I suppose that is because those 3 things I can consume a lot of and the calories sneak up on you.

Cut them out and report back in a month!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on April 09, 2012
at 05:28 PM

Dr. Eades has always maintained that nuts, cheese and alcohol can be weight loss roadblocks for many people. He should know, since he and his wife have been helping ppeople lose weight for decades (and he's pretty paleo friendly). Give it a shot, if you can manage it. Probably the only other way would be to meticulously count calories.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:04 PM

No, reintroducing a daily glass of wine (5-8oz) seemed to actually perk up my metabolism. Or I'll happily have a cider a day as well, with no negative effects. I avoid actual beers these days - when I was waffling on beer and would have one now and again, I'd always pay for it the next day.

I can't comment on the cheese since eating it would render me writhing in pain on the floor. :-) Cutting out cheese as a dense source of calories, often used as a condiment, might help though.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on November 29, 2012
at 09:05 PM

A glass of wine definitely helps digestion. It is a fermented food, after all.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on December 03, 2012
at 03:30 PM

Ha, yes, that's technically true. However, wine/beer is fermented with yeast, although it is delivered mostly (usually) yeast free. It does not contain "probiotic" bacteria like yogurt or sauerkraut may have. Regardless, enjoy in moderation.

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35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on April 09, 2012
at 09:21 PM

I can manipulate my weight entirely based on dairy and alcohol. Paleo(ish) with dairy & alcohol = stable weight... if I drop those two, I gradually lose weight. Good news since I don't have any plans to completely eliminate either from my diet for good.

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on November 29, 2012
at 08:33 PM

Hi Folks. I have been pretty strict Paleo for one year now and have lost 74 pounds I feel great I look great my blood pressure is now 113/63 and my blood panel is perfect I love Paleo.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on November 30, 2012
at 01:43 AM

Welcome! But what does this have to do with wine?

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on May 09, 2012
at 11:18 PM

I'm in the same boat - just starting Paleo and have 98% given up cheese but giving up wine is harder! sigh

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on April 12, 2012
at 06:05 PM

Everyone: THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT RESPONSES! To be lean, I have actually 30 pounds to loose. I would be tremendously happy with 20 less right now.

I will try cutting cheese and wine out for a month, and see what happens. I just started getting the dreaded menaupause hot flashes (3 to 8 times a day) - I am 55 now. Maybe my hormones are flyng, and they have stopped me from loosing weight(??). Skipping wine and cheese for a while just might do the trick. I read a couple of days ago that wine is not great for hot flashes. That it actually causes them.

Eating Paleo has given me so much ENERGY! I don't miss the mad woman uncontrolable sugar cravings, and mood swings from the sugar highs and lows. I miss eating pasta for taste only - that is just habit. I have managed just fine not eating potatoes, bread, and rice. I never thought that I would ever say that as I lived for them before.

Thanks for all you help.

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:33 PM

Wine is no big deal but it is not a health food dispite the over hyped importance of Resveratrol. Great for mice but not so much for humans. I can not believe you didn't lose any weight, unless ytou have little to lose. Low card is a weight loss diet, Paleo to me has been a health improvement diet- adds vitality and power to both body and mind. good luck.

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Do they make tiny wine glasses for the mice in these studies? ;)

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:41 PM

I enjoy wine every once in awhile. When I do, I do my best to keep the amount fairly low - I have small 5oz wine glasses, so I don't exceed 3 of those, and I avoid drinking late in the evening. As always, a glass of water between each glass will help you feel better the next day.

Also, following the Leangains alcohol logic, I try and make sure that the higher carbs are no where near me when I am enjoying alcohol, I might nosh on local unsalted chucarrones, bits of cold leftover steak/chicken, or even some good cheese (very small amounts, less than 1oz/30gm)... (or preferably a ploughman's board containing all of the above) but steer clear of any fruit past a couple of berries.

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:11 PM

I've been doing a ketogenyc diet for a week and i've lost 5kg.

My 5 cents. No beers, rice, pasta, veggies, etc... just proteins and grease (avocado, almmonds, coconut...).

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