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Switching away from IFing

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Created April 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Has anyone here tried IF with success and then switched back to more frequent eating? If so, did this positively / negatively effect you, and it what way (mood, weight, convenience, etc..)

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on April 21, 2011
at 06:26 PM

Your answer touches on another question I asked yesterday. Which was, are there any definitive tests to make sure I don't have Leaky gut? Also, now that you mention, leptin, cortisol, insulin. I'm just trying to put it all together. Metaphorically speaking, I want to make sure my foundation is solid before I begin building, ya know?

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on April 20, 2011
at 11:35 PM

On reflection, labeling it "12/12" doesn't make sense. It is more like 12/1 where you fast for 12 hours then eat 1 meal. I also forgot to mention that I'll aim for a 24/1 (fast one whole day) twice a month or so.

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:40 PM

bad advice here cause there is no context given.

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:20 PM

IF it's good, can it not be made great?

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:15 PM

But what if the world ends in 2012?? Your current schedule looks a lot like the model I'm thinking about. Good luck on acheiving your goal!

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:12 PM

Great feedback. I've noticed some potentially related cortisol signals, and when I was VLC, dealt with some hypoglycemia. The latter was fixed with more starch. Thanks for the info.

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on April 20, 2011
at 08:08 PM

"IF," it ain't broke...don't fix it.

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on April 20, 2011
at 07:26 PM

I've been reading all questions and responses to IFing on this forum. I haven't tried it yet, and want to gather all the info I can. My weight loss is going great without it, so I might not give it a go. Thanks for the question!

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on April 20, 2011
at 07:01 PM

Thanks, Gilliebean. I really liked implementing IF and had great results from it (Simplicity, leaning out, better mood, less cravings, etc...) I keep thinking "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" but I'm not overly sure it's necessary or even optimal.

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at 06:32 PM

I think this is a great question.

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3020fb359dfbedaf90f1611b036d3432

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on April 20, 2011
at 09:55 PM

In my experience IF with fasted training ruined me. I had high cortisol, hypoglycemia, and fat accumulation around my belly (even though I was losing fat overall). I was doing a 16/8 IF with fasted training at noon and then a large PWO meal and a smaller meal later in the evening. I'm guessing other factors were also responsible such as undereating (not intentional) and VLC, but I still think caution is warranted when following fasted training IF.

Interestingly, I switched to having a meal several hours before working out and that eventually cleared up most of the problems. I've since settled into a compromised routine that fits more easily with my schedule--I eat breakfast and dinner and skip lunch, which is basically a 12/12 IF. Clear sailing so far!

3020fb359dfbedaf90f1611b036d3432

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on April 20, 2011
at 11:35 PM

On reflection, labeling it "12/12" doesn't make sense. It is more like 12/1 where you fast for 12 hours then eat 1 meal. I also forgot to mention that I'll aim for a 24/1 (fast one whole day) twice a month or so.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:12 PM

Great feedback. I've noticed some potentially related cortisol signals, and when I was VLC, dealt with some hypoglycemia. The latter was fixed with more starch. Thanks for the info.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Most people dont even why they IF to begin with. IF should only be done by someone who is fit. That means they should not be leptin insulin or cortisol resistant and who don't have a leaky gut. If you have an autoimmune disease never consider it. Why, because you can seriously hurt yourself with hypoglycemia or with hyperglycemia if your cortisol levels are through the roof. All those caveats considered......the main benefit of IF is inducement of autophagy on a cellular level. This allows the cell then to "clean out debris" while there is no glycolysis ongoing. Autophagy is a catabolic process involving the degradation of a cell's own components through its own lysosomal machinery. A basic cellular enema if you will. During nutrient starvation, increased levels of autophagy lead to the breakdown of non-vital components and the release of nutrients, ensuring that vital processes can continue. IF gives you this benefit without starvation. It takes around 8 hrs of fasting to get......but this is a variable number based upon the person.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on April 21, 2011
at 06:26 PM

Your answer touches on another question I asked yesterday. Which was, are there any definitive tests to make sure I don't have Leaky gut? Also, now that you mention, leptin, cortisol, insulin. I'm just trying to put it all together. Metaphorically speaking, I want to make sure my foundation is solid before I begin building, ya know?

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on April 20, 2011
at 08:00 PM

Since I started my weight loss path two months ago I've switched to 2 meals a day. On most of the days I do breakfast at 7am and dinner at 7 pm, on the weight training days I do lunch 12pm and dinner 7pm, on week-ends I do breakfast 7am and lunch 12pm. The main reasons is the convenience - don't have to cook an extra meal and with a medium carb diet (less than 100g/day) there's no feeling of hunger even during long fasts.

I may switch back to the regular 3 meals a day after reaching my weight goal by 2012.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on April 20, 2011
at 10:15 PM

But what if the world ends in 2012?? Your current schedule looks a lot like the model I'm thinking about. Good luck on acheiving your goal!

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on April 20, 2011
at 07:24 PM

I IF'd for a month but I wasn't full paleo at the time so it was big failure. Then I went full Paleo and IF came naturally. Even if I wanted to move away from IF my body won't let me anymore as it is only hungry 1-2 x's per day. When I went off IF though, my cravings for crap came back in full force and I got really obsessed with food. I also fell into a funk though I suspect some of that was because of the winter blues.

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