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Stuck in Ketosis?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I wasn't looking to go keto, nor did I try. I was eating around 100g of carbs per day, training as usual, when all of a sudden...WHAM! Ketosis. The ammonia smell in my nose, the sweetness on my breathe and super fast weight loss. Sounds great, but I'm already where I want to be, weight-wise.

Thoughts on what might have happened?

My diet is pretty high-calories (around 2000 daily) and consists of eggs, bison, chicken (breast, leg, whatever), yogurt, berries, other fruits, coconut, cocao nibs (in my yogurt, unreal), butter, plenty of veggies.

I've been eating closer to 200g of carbs the last week to no avail, still in ketosis. I also wake up starving! Is this my thyroid? Ideas? Please?

EDIT I have been tested and re-tested for Diabetes. My sister is Type 1, Juvenile onset. My last blood glucose (fasted) test was 2 months ago and totally normal.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on September 14, 2012
at 11:45 PM

How do you know you've been in ketosis before, Ashley? Was it intentional?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on September 14, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Everybody's smell is different. Some smell like cat piss, other, just strange.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on September 14, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I disagree. There are many other answers that address the specifics. I've also replied with comments to some of those responses. However, the type of beneficial Ketosis one wants to get into (as the thread starter mentioned) is definitely not the case in her description. You can't be in Ketosis with that carb intake, it's not possible.

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on September 14, 2012
at 07:38 PM

Perhaps a more involved answer than a quick response is required. I'm definitely not a Platypus, but things aren't so definite when it comes to matters like this. These have been my signs of ketosis in the past. This response is not very helpful.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on September 14, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I drink quite a bit, and pee quite a bit, lol. Haven't noticed I am more thirsty than usual.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:16 PM

Good question. Fluid intake, urine smell/taste (I know, nasty) and frequency of urination are tell-tale signs of a Metabolic issue. This is by far the best way to suspect Diabetes.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:14 PM

She has many symptoms that don't fit Ketoacidosis at all. First off, we don't know how/if she is measuring Ketones. Blood? Urine? Just by the breath? Unless it's blood, I'd almost completely dismiss it as anything more than a symptom. Nothing concrete. She also mentions she is starving. This is completely counter-intuitive of Ketoacidosis. Weight loss could be a side-effect, but fluid intake and blood glucose would be much better indicators of possible excess Ketone production. As August said, this seems strange. I'd see a doctor just to rule out T1 Diabetes or Kidney disease.

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:02 PM

How much water are you drinking?

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68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:00 PM

You're definitely not in Ketosis.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on September 14, 2012
at 07:38 PM

Perhaps a more involved answer than a quick response is required. I'm definitely not a Platypus, but things aren't so definite when it comes to matters like this. These have been my signs of ketosis in the past. This response is not very helpful.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on September 14, 2012
at 11:45 PM

How do you know you've been in ketosis before, Ashley? Was it intentional?

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

(5795)

on September 14, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I disagree. There are many other answers that address the specifics. I've also replied with comments to some of those responses. However, the type of beneficial Ketosis one wants to get into (as the thread starter mentioned) is definitely not the case in her description. You can't be in Ketosis with that carb intake, it's not possible.

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Waking up starving is probably cortisol. I've fixed that two different ways- one by really going into ketosis. It seems this 50g carbs and/or cheating puts you in a situation where your body isn't happy with the amounts of any fuel source- you've got some glucose, some ketones, but not enough of either to keep the brain happy, especially during the night, since we all fast while we sleep.

The other way I fixed that was with a tablespoon of honey right before bed. This works because the fructose in the honey encourages the liver to take up glucose; then the liver puts out about 10g glucose an hour during the night. There's a book out there called Honey Revolution that explains the idea.

The rest of it sounds too strange. I don't know how you go into ketosis while eating that much, except perhaps a little ketone production- again at night, as the body attempts to deal with a fast. My first inclination is to believe the ammonia smell you are experiencing has nothing to do with ketosis at all; my second is to send you off to a doctor. I don't really like the second, but if you are truly experiencing high ketones under these conditions then you are likely experiencing ketoacidosis, which requires medical attention.

68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:14 PM

She has many symptoms that don't fit Ketoacidosis at all. First off, we don't know how/if she is measuring Ketones. Blood? Urine? Just by the breath? Unless it's blood, I'd almost completely dismiss it as anything more than a symptom. Nothing concrete. She also mentions she is starving. This is completely counter-intuitive of Ketoacidosis. Weight loss could be a side-effect, but fluid intake and blood glucose would be much better indicators of possible excess Ketone production. As August said, this seems strange. I'd see a doctor just to rule out T1 Diabetes or Kidney disease.

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on September 18, 2012
at 05:08 PM

Maybe a high intake of MCTs, such as from lots of coconut products?

A tablespoon or so of coconut oil in the absence of carbs (just for that meal, not the day) almost always results in an acetone smell for me.

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on September 14, 2012
at 09:09 PM

I used to go into ketosis all the time before I ever went low carb, and that was usually after some long exercise. I never smelled sweet or like ammonia. I smelled like acetone or fingernail polish remover.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on September 14, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Everybody's smell is different. Some smell like cat piss, other, just strange.

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on September 14, 2012
at 05:29 PM

You mention fruity or sweet smelling breath? That sounds more like DM2 going on. Also the waking up starving and the increased weight loss can be warning signs of advanced diabetes. You should see your PCP.

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