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Still overweight but stuck after only 3 weeks - HELP!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 11, 2011 at 12:45 PM

  • First week - lost 10 pounds.
  • Second week - lost maybe ~1 pound.
  • Third week (first week of Whole30) gained that pound back++.

...this is the beginning of week 4 - WTF IS GOING ON! I started at 196-198, and I'm between 187 and 189 depending on how temperamental my scale wants to be. I'm being REALLY STRICT.

20% maximum carbs (50-70 daily, nothing refined its all from veggies) - ~30% protien and the rest is fat.

1800 calories daily ON THE NOSE except for one day last week where I hit 2100. Weights once a week, general moving about (working through 100 situps program and 100 pushups program gradually - up to about 14 of each).

Please, hack this because if it keeps up I'm going to devour something bad. 189 puts me squarely in "overweight" territory, so this isn't a "set point" for my body, unless its REALLY mental. I still have cafeteria lady arms, and my legs are still "thunder thighs" - no skinny pants for me yet. Still a size 14. Not cool. Help help help.

Yes, I am doing IF - haven't been eating breakfast all last week, but I still always hit my RDI (1800 calories) with the other two meals. I did have some dairy over the weekend (coffee) but that shouldn't kill me. I'm sick of being fat and this "diet" was supposed to change things. Boyfriend is up to 15 pounds lost, pretty consistently 2-3 pounds a week for him and I'm stuck! WTF is going on!?! He's still eating sandwiches (with bread!!!) and I'm working my ass off at the gym, and nothing!

Tracking everything with Fat Secret: http://fatsecret.com/Diary.aspx?pa=mdcs&id=677318

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 13, 2011
at 07:07 PM

@Sigil - if I did that nothing in the house would get done, including dinner, cleaning. I literally wake up, go to work, come home, have 2-3 hours depending on when I get home then must go to bed. Which is why I usually stay up till 11 or 12. Things need to get done. I have to go to the gym. Dinner must be made. Not enough hours in the damn day.

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

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on April 13, 2011
at 04:53 AM

Nap from when you get home till when your family does. Spend a few hours with them, then go to bed again.

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

(422)

on April 13, 2011
at 04:52 AM

Yeah BMI is a load of crap, doctors have used it on me all my life and there is no way my broad shouldered, wide hipped frame is going to look like a woman if I go too far under 200.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:36 PM

it takes time. lots more time than any of us want it to. its easier to damage ourselves than to heal.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:35 PM

the need for citation as proof or convincing is a very clear sign of anxiety/paranoia. you may rationalize it as healthy skepticism, but it shows that you aren't practicing experiments with yourself to gain honest results. you are inside a fear-based state of mind, which is supported by many dysfunctional bio-chemical functions, such as neuro-transmitters aka protein. it's okay, anyone who is or was unhealthy knows this feeling feels valid, but it isn't telling you the truth. eat your non-lean protein and fat (60% or more of est. cals) and heal your gut, acclimate to a new consistent "diet".

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:05 PM

Holy crap - I'm 5'5" and comfortably at 130. That's insane.

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on April 12, 2011
at 11:00 AM

+1 for a lovely anecdote.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 12, 2011
at 08:55 AM

Link is in my profile. You'll find the ten rules for weigh loss in the archive. Give her the testosterone one too, should rename it the sex hormone one tho as it applies to men and women

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

(422)

on April 12, 2011
at 04:17 AM

And also, have you tried Crossfit as your exercise? I've heard a lot about it and it makes some RIPPED bodies. But again, that takes time. You will not be seeing magic muscles or inches dropping off in a week or two.

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:13 AM

Have you posted this on your blog or anything, Stephen? I'd like to link it to one of my friends who just started Paleo without scaring her with all of the really sciencey questions here just yet

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:01 AM

I'm just wondering where you've gotten the "I should be 160" in your life. Who told you that? And you're seriously only 3 weeks in. I've lost less than 30 lbs since Thanksgiving, but I'm sooo happy about it! I've still got another 80 or so to lose, and I'm not dropping it nearly as fast as the stories I had read, but 26 lbs is 26 lbs! That is progress! Are you ONLY going paleo for your weight?

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on April 11, 2011
at 11:21 PM

I think going lower on calories every other day is better than holding them so low for too long. Women generally need around 2000 and more on a workout day. I think what you need most, oranges, is to give yourself some time, relax, let your body do the job in a way that is healthy for it.

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on April 11, 2011
at 09:18 PM

...or stressing about having enough exercise/moving around.

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on April 11, 2011
at 09:16 PM

LizG,I like your attitude!I'm the opposite I need to gain,but feel anxious that I'll keep on gaining once I do allow myself to do what I'd like to do...which is a sitting job. I've always wondered why almost all arty people are lean,despite most of them working out viciously. Could it indeed be our own mental stressing?bc we know what it's like to be overweight and obsessing over food.That thought probably never even came to mind in arty peoples heads,they don't obsess over quantities,what to eat and avoid,binges etc. Could that be the real weightloss/maintenance secret?

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on April 11, 2011
at 08:33 PM

true! I'm curvy but gravity seems to be playing a role in my lower half..lol...so thats the 10lbs that still needs to go. I never really had weight issues until the last few years dealing with gut issues and food allergies and living abroad and not good access to medical care who could deal with these issues. I noted that now its harder to loose weight and keep it off, so i hope this will do it for me. Hang in there, you'll get there!!!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 07:40 PM

I understand what you are saying Michael, but I know I gain weight QUICKLY at 1800 calories. At 1500 calories on a regular basis I gain 1-2 lbs a week.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Going to bed would be a whole hell of a lot easier if I didn't have to get up so damned early!

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 07:26 PM

Also, muscle or fat it doesn't matter to me. My legs are HYOOOOOOOOGE. Gonna have to lose a lot of muscle there as well if I ever plan on being able to buy jeans in a normal store and not have them get stuck past my knees. + my calves are ginormous. No where near sexy, they look more like ham hocks.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 07:24 PM

That's exactly what I'm doing and others around me are doing less and succeeding more.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:56 PM

@Bree - I have a bottle of melatonin that seemed to work well. I've just been forgetting to take it. Plus, if I go to bed at 10, I won't get to see anyone in my house for more than an hour. They get home around 8 or 9. So..

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:51 PM

I think I'm eating too much protien already. How does it help with anxiety? Citation please?

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:51 PM

to support what Stephen is saying about sleep, you know exercise is the STRESS part of getting stronger... it's sleep and rest where your body repairs, recuperates and adapts to this stress that is the actual weight loss and getting strong process, so if you're skimping on your rest and your sleep you are simply not going to get results. You don't "work your ass off" in the gym, you stress your ass out, then you "rest your ass off" later. This can't be overemphasized. GO TO BED! :)

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:50 PM

And it's not 1 lb a day, it has been *no change at all for 14 days* all that weight came off right off the bat, which is why its doubly frustrating. I know plenty of women who are taller than me and wear size 5 - 6. Maybe they weigh more than I think, but they're still small. I just want to be small instead of round.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:49 PM

I weigh 189, I should be 160 to be firmly entrenched in "normal territory". I should be able to wear something like a size 7 and I'm still fitting into twice that. I weighed 165 at my lightest, and was still wearing size 10.. but that wasn't a lot of muscle. I want to be able to go to the beach without having my legs rubbing together, stomach rolls when I sit down, or rolls when I put my arms down (on my back), I want to be able to SEE my abs instead of having them being covered by a layer of flab. I am NO WHERE NEAR being "thin."

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:46 PM

It's been 14 days...

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:44 PM

I'm only weighing because the whole week before I started whole30 I didn't lose any weight. I figured that I would start losing again once I got really strict and I'm PISSED OFF THAT IT ISN'T WORKING.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:44 PM

great answer, jason. @oranges: like we say in yoga, "KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR MAT." dont compare yourself to other people. just focus on yourself and your practice will fall in place.

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:43 PM

like we say in yoga, "KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR MAT." dont ca=ompare yourself to others. just focus on yourself.

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:21 PM

oranges... my husband goes to bed after me many nights, and I wear a eye mask to get total darkness. It works... I don't even know when he comes to bed most of the time. Also if you get up in the middle of the night, don't turn on any lights.

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Oranges - I just started taking magnesium (natural calm) at night about half an hour before I want to go to bed - it's worked every night - I have been going to bed now at 9:30 or 10pm instead of 11 or 12. Makes a world of difference.

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:16 PM

I'm doing whole30 right now too... I'm only on day 9 but been gluten free for a couple weeks. You guys know you're not supposed to be weighing in during a whole30? :) There is a reason for that and I think you've hit on it. Also where are you in your cycle... if it's right before your period your body will probably hold onto some weight until you start. This is what my body does. Since you are exercising, do you think you're eating enough? Good luck to you! I'm having trouble with the fruit myself, feel that I'm using it as a crutch. And I HATE being without dairy. But paleo itself rocks!

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Stephen - thanks for your answer - I just printed it and I'm putting it up in my office and on my fridge at home - I just need to talk my toddler into #10 - working on it!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:04 PM

1200 calories CAN work, honestly, but personally I feel it was more about tweaking my ratios of fat/protein/carbs to what worked for me. I found that 50% fat and 30% protein and 20% carbs works great for me, but I know others have to limit their protein or carbs more. That's right where you are at, so you may have to tweak things another way. Or just stick to this for a month and stop trying to tweak. I would've got a coffee with a little bit of heavy cream instead of an entire cup of heavy cream at Starbucks.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Yeah, the cream was "everyone in the car @ starbucks.. gotta get something" Supposed to be doing whole30 so no dairy LOL. Yesterday, I wasn't really hungry, but we woke late and were at the movies a good chunk of the day. We only ate dinner because we were sort of snackish but didn't want something huge. Eh, I'll see. I've just gone too long far too close to that starvation line (1200 calories) with no results, I'm really skittish to limit it that low again because it doesn't work.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Onto the food... Yesterday was 1200 calories, all in breakfast/lunch, how do you feel after that? Are you hungry? I would probably drop the 240 calories worth of coconut milk and use it for something I could CHEW. It's just more satisfying. SATURDAY, you had 1000 calories of steak \o/ AWESOME. I would avoid the 400 calories of heavy cream. Drinking calories is just too easy. Eat piles of veggies or a big ass salad instead. I know the "Paleo thing" is more fat, but I would rather have more food and use fat as an accent (mmm... butter) or a cooking tool (mmm... coconut oil)

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:43 PM

Okay, #1 girl, you are adorable and you don't look FAT. You need to be kinder to yourself. I know it's hard. My internal voice can be BRUTAL, but you are trying to fix yourself and you should be PROUD of what you are trying to accomplish.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:36 PM

Thanks for sharing Kelly! It amazes me the different weights people feel comfortable at. I am 5'2" and weigh 136 and don't want to go any lower at all. I love it here, I am still curvy, my arms look awesome, my back muscles are really cool. I will never have visible abs due to loose skin issues though. I wear a size extra small or small and size 4 or 6 most of the time. Then again, my "highest ever!!!" was 110 more than where you started, so it is easier for me to be happier at a higher weight, I think.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:32 PM

the thing about this is that in a few months when you are still eating primal and they've returned to their bad habits is that they'll gain the weight back. I really think that with this healthy style of eating you are detoxing your body and restarting it for a long and healthy road ahead of you. hang in there!!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:02 PM

I did 1200 calories for 6 years with cardio and weight training. I lost the last 10lbs with Paleo and have now been able to raise my calories and reduce exercise for maintenance. I have never been able to trust hunger signals because I have an eating disorder. If I had tried to "refeed" I would just have become obese again. Every one is different, though.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:01 PM

I'd blame cortisol, like sherpamelissa mentioned. It can really stifle progress. I understand about being overweight, but if you're losing inches, that means your still burning fat without sacrificing muscle. I gained 10 lbs after starting CrossFit, and lost 2 inches. Know what I mean?

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:58 PM

I am with you on the not trusting hunger signals. I like limits. It helps me. With the 1200 calories, it is all in what you eat. When you did 1200 before you were probably eating some pretty crappy non whole foods stuff. I'm not even suggesting going that low yet, but I would try to drop down to 1600 and maybe raise the protein % a little. I know fat is supposed to fill you up more, but I find the actual eating of food more satisfying.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:39 PM

The problem is that there's other people in the house. I can't realistically ask them to sit in the dark after 10 pm because I need sleep, especially when they don't go to bed until 1-2am.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:37 PM

1200 calories *made me miserable*, and I can't trust my hunger signals. If I listened to them, I would be eating constantly. I eat dinner together with my boyfriend and its weird if I don't eat with him. Skipping lunch at work is fine, but I usually get hungry by 2pm. I tried a fast on Friday and was RAVENOUS by 1pm and only had some coconut milk for "breakfast" that day.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:21 PM

Turn off all electronics an hour or two before you try going to sleep.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:19 PM

stop eating 1800 calories. eat when youre hungry and stop when you arent. You may go over and under that amount. You will skip meals, You may eat at odd hours. On days with social events, eat at dinner or with friends even if not hungry, but keep those meals small and youll find you eat later on your own. Eventually it all balances out.

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Oh... I should have added I started at 205 lbs., got down to 145 lbs., now sitting at 160-165 lbs., I'm 5'9" and a dude.

A7ac68389a10bc99f33885e7ed0dbfe0

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:17 PM

I would agree with melissa... I started counting calories back in 2009... lost 60 lbs. (this was all before I found paleo). At one point I got down to 1200 cal./day, now I'm up to 1500 for maintenance... but I did gain back 15 lbs. (on purpose), I had lost a lot of muscle mass so I intentionally started eating more calories and lifting weights.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Going to bed earlier != Going to sleep earlier

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

Gaining muscle is great, but there's no way that you're gaining it at *exactly* the same rate you're losing fat, there would be some change, at least. This is the same problem I came up against the last time I went to the gym. Crazy hard work, and no results at all. Last time I gained 15 pounds. At least this time its deciding to stay put (so far..)

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

go to sleep earlier.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

what about inch loss - muscle is also heavier that fat

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:13 PM

I understand its not a fad crash diet, I intend to keep eating like this forever, but with most people around me having HUGE SUCCESS and stories all over the internet: 40 pounds in 6 months, more in some cases, I'm getting pissed off that I'm doing it absolutely perfectly and not seeing any changes.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:12 PM

I started this with 3 other people around me, they're doing fine. They lose about a pound a day. I haven't lost a single thing in 14 days. They're still eating sandwiches, they're still eating splenda. I'm doing it letter perfect and they're reaping all the benefits.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:12 PM

Thanks for the food log link! I promise I will go through it shortly and comment.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:11 PM

+1 This is not a fad crash diet, this is a lifestyle.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:10 PM

I haven't lost anything in 2 weeks. Sure, 10 pounds in 3 weeks is great if it were 3 pounds a week, but its going to keep going.. 10 pounds for 4 weeks, 10 pounds for 5 weeks. Then it starts looking less and less amazing and more and more like failure or fad.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:10 PM

I don't believe going to the gym is stopping you from losing weight. I know you do Body Pump and doing that once or twice a week should not be too much. If you truly believe that though, then stop going for a week or two, see if your weight loss re-starts. During that time, you may want to just try some long walk/hikes to give your body some movement.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:09 PM

I'm doing all this - great success first week! 10 pounds in a week is phenomenal! *nothing* since. #10 is laughable though. YOU try getting up at 6am with an hour commute ahead of you *without* an alarm clock. HAHAHA!

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:08 PM

I did 1200 for six years while I went from obese to "normal". I am currently at 1300/1400 for maintenance. Everyone is different, you have to find the point where you can eat just enough and still lose. I would probably dial it back to 1600 and see what happens.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:00 PM

Scale might be deceiving, but 180-something is about 30 pounds higher than I should ever ever be, so it NEEDS TO GO DOWN, regardless.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 12:59 PM

I get about 7 hours if I'm lucky. Blame my work which is an hour away and I have to get up at 6am. Don't get tired till midnight, ever, unless I take something. Get home from work @ 6:30pm, eat dinner @8pm.. get tired at like 11:30. Partner doesn't go to sleep until 2am (I sleep with earplugs).

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 12:54 PM

1800 is too high?! Before turning paleo I was trying to stick to 1200 daily and still having issues. It's the gym. I go to the gym at all and I stop losing period. I went 6 months hard core balls to the wall 3x weekly for 2 hours and lost *nothing*. Paleo was supposed to change that - no need to go to the gym! yay! Not. Working.

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7e1064164e012a1ead098098245b1cd4

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:02 PM

You said it yourself...'stuck after ONLY three weeks'. A 10lb weight loss in that time is fantastic. Day to day and week to week your body weight fluctuates, it is not static. Your body is constantly storing and burning fat. If you had been eating Paleo for maybe seven or eight weeks with no results then I'd say something perhaps needed hacking, but three weeks is not enough time to gauge what is 'wrong', if indeed there IS anything wrong.

I would also echo Ben's answer and say, how are you sleeping? Have you taken measurements? I know you mentioned you still have cafeteria lady arms (LOL) and 'thunder thighs' but gosh, complaining about such things after only three weeks seems a bit ridiculous to me...I don't mean to sound rude but I think you're expecting results too quickly. This is not a fad crash diet, this is a lifestyle. A lot of people, and I used to include myself in this, value fat loss over health but really you should be eating this way to fix your health. Your body composition will follow naturally. If this takes three weeks or three months, what's the problem? Know that you are doing the best you can do for your body, and once your body adapts to this new healthful way of eating, results will come quickly.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:10 PM

I haven't lost anything in 2 weeks. Sure, 10 pounds in 3 weeks is great if it were 3 pounds a week, but its going to keep going.. 10 pounds for 4 weeks, 10 pounds for 5 weeks. Then it starts looking less and less amazing and more and more like failure or fad.

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

what about inch loss - muscle is also heavier that fat

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:44 PM

great answer, jason. @oranges: like we say in yoga, "KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR MAT." dont compare yourself to other people. just focus on yourself and your practice will fall in place.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:12 PM

I started this with 3 other people around me, they're doing fine. They lose about a pound a day. I haven't lost a single thing in 14 days. They're still eating sandwiches, they're still eating splenda. I'm doing it letter perfect and they're reaping all the benefits.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on April 11, 2011
at 04:43 PM

like we say in yoga, "KEEP YOUR EYES ON YOUR MAT." dont ca=ompare yourself to others. just focus on yourself.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:11 PM

+1 This is not a fad crash diet, this is a lifestyle.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:13 PM

I understand its not a fad crash diet, I intend to keep eating like this forever, but with most people around me having HUGE SUCCESS and stories all over the internet: 40 pounds in 6 months, more in some cases, I'm getting pissed off that I'm doing it absolutely perfectly and not seeing any changes.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on April 11, 2011
at 02:32 PM

the thing about this is that in a few months when you are still eating primal and they've returned to their bad habits is that they'll gain the weight back. I really think that with this healthy style of eating you are detoxing your body and restarting it for a long and healthy road ahead of you. hang in there!!

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4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on April 11, 2011
at 01:06 PM

Here's my top ten: this lost me 105lbs in just over 9 months, no real stalls unless I went off track.

Sleep and fasted training are huge

  1. Eliminate Sugar- refined, artificial, or otherwise, it's in everything Limit yourself to 1 medium fruit or a small amount of berries/day if you must Resist Temptation, the sugar cravings will go away.

  2. Avoid Refined Carbohydrates- Especially wheat and flours, not just for insulin and leptin effect but the multitude of anti nutrients, immune response, the list goes on, maybe this should be rule 1? Check Ingredient lists wheat/flour is in everything and its Bad. We will talk more about it later.

  3. Eat more healthy fat- Saturated, Mono-unsaturated, Omega 3, animal fats. Avoid trans fat and polyunsaturated fats- low fat is a bad bad myth- check ingredients for veggie fats, canola, corn oil etc are Bad sources of omega 6's

  4. Intermittently Fast - skip a meal or two and do not replace it/ binge at the following meal. The health benefits go far beyond simple calorie restriction

  5. Train Fasted/Train High Intensity Interval Training - you have to adapt to it, but training fasted will MELT the Lbs and is healthier, HIIT will create a very beneficial hormone environment for weightloss and health 2-3 days a week. 10minutes. Huge difference. HI means High Intensity, its only 10min, push yourself.

  6. Don't Binge- don't starve, but stop when your satiated, not when you're stuffed. Eat slower, drink more Water and let your food digest

  7. Track/accountability- make a logbook, record your weight, ask a friend to help. Make sure you're clear why you want to be healthier for life.. Then use that motivation to keep yourself on track.

  8. Don't drink Calories even Diet- your body doesn't recognize the calories the same, Drink Water, Tea(especially Green), Black Coffee Avoid Psuedowater, etc. Check all labels for sugar/calorie count/ingredients.

  9. Move daily- 30min minimum anywhere, the mall, the grocery store, around the block. Just get your circulation going, every day. Doesn't have to be fast, just daily.

  10. Sleep - 8 hours quality sleep The goal is to not need an alarm clock This means avoid stimulants late in the day as they disrupt sleep patterns. This will effect, hunger, mood, hormones, everything. Don't do the rest and skip Vital Rule #10.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:21 PM

Turn off all electronics an hour or two before you try going to sleep.

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(12379)

on April 11, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Stephen - thanks for your answer - I just printed it and I'm putting it up in my office and on my fridge at home - I just need to talk my toddler into #10 - working on it!

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 07:28 PM

Going to bed would be a whole hell of a lot easier if I didn't have to get up so damned early!

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:09 PM

I'm doing all this - great success first week! 10 pounds in a week is phenomenal! *nothing* since. #10 is laughable though. YOU try getting up at 6am with an hour commute ahead of you *without* an alarm clock. HAHAHA!

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:17 PM

Going to bed earlier != Going to sleep earlier

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on April 11, 2011
at 03:21 PM

oranges... my husband goes to bed after me many nights, and I wear a eye mask to get total darkness. It works... I don't even know when he comes to bed most of the time. Also if you get up in the middle of the night, don't turn on any lights.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:39 PM

The problem is that there's other people in the house. I can't realistically ask them to sit in the dark after 10 pm because I need sleep, especially when they don't go to bed until 1-2am.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

go to sleep earlier.

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(5136)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:51 PM

to support what Stephen is saying about sleep, you know exercise is the STRESS part of getting stronger... it's sleep and rest where your body repairs, recuperates and adapts to this stress that is the actual weight loss and getting strong process, so if you're skimping on your rest and your sleep you are simply not going to get results. You don't "work your ass off" in the gym, you stress your ass out, then you "rest your ass off" later. This can't be overemphasized. GO TO BED! :)

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:19 PM

stop eating 1800 calories. eat when youre hungry and stop when you arent. You may go over and under that amount. You will skip meals, You may eat at odd hours. On days with social events, eat at dinner or with friends even if not hungry, but keep those meals small and youll find you eat later on your own. Eventually it all balances out.

9b1da5c61c41bb93afb668f9ab3bc76a

(422)

on April 12, 2011
at 04:13 AM

Have you posted this on your blog or anything, Stephen? I'd like to link it to one of my friends who just started Paleo without scaring her with all of the really sciencey questions here just yet

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:55 AM

Link is in my profile. You'll find the ten rules for weigh loss in the archive. Give her the testosterone one too, should rename it the sex hormone one tho as it applies to men and women

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on April 11, 2011
at 04:29 PM

You haven't stopped losing weight. You've stopped losing water weight.

These results are consistent with just about everyone that I know that decides to go 20% carbs or less. You've stabilized your blood sugar, you've shed your excess water, here is where the real weight loss begins. You want to be amazed? Have that binge carb-heavy meal and see where the scale goes. Dependent on your fluid intake, chances are at least half of what you've "lost" in 3 weeks will come back in a weekend's time.

So, take it easy... stay the course. Your lapse (time where the scale isn't moving) will most likely last a week or so (although your waist may continue to get smaller), then you'll start seeing drastic reductions again (just not at the speed of introduction).

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:46 PM

It's been 14 days...

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345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

(8767)

on April 11, 2011
at 02:28 PM

Hi! its interesting to read your post because I was there a few months ago...and I get everything you are staying as well, been there!! So let me share my experience because I think they are very similar....I was starting to get panicky after 1 mo for the some reason, so i started reading all the sites and trying to find some sort of 'method' of understanding....Basically i figured out that i was stressing over something that i wanted to have more control over....and trust me, it doesn't help. you probably just need to wrap your mind around this way of eating and understand that the payoff comes slowly and you'll see the results when you least expect it. So be careful not to derail yourself, you are doing great!!

Here is what happened with me......

I also lost about 8 lbs the first week or two...then it was like nothing was happening. But I hung in there and slowly but surely weight started coming off....and I do mean slowly! it was even impossible to see it on the scale, so i just hung in there. But after about 1 - 2 months I was somehow down about 15 lbs. You can't weight yourself daily because the weight loss is so small you dont see it. Just take your measurements and track your food and about every 2 wks I weigh in and remeasure. I have seen 2+inch losses across all areas. (your weight will go up and down, this is normal....its when it goes up and doesn't stop you need to worry)

I also tinkered with calories and exercise, but it took a while to figure out what works for me. I also couldn't do the IF for several months, its just too hard when your doing something new. I'd suggest you wait until you are 'ready' ....you'll know--don't add more pressure to yourself, you aren't ready for it yet. And then, start small, IF from a late lunch one day to a late breakfast the next....push for those 18 hours....that was the easiest for me. But I also dont find that IF helps me, what helped me, after someone else suggested, is to one day eat very low calories, then the next eat more, so basically I'm tinkering with my metabolism. I recently dropped my carbs to less than 50g day...before i was between 50-80g per day, I was still loosing but at a turtles pace. Dropping it slightly helped a little bit and am shedding inches now.

I do think your calories are a bit high as well. I also started really high based on what the sites came up for me with BMI etc. then i stalled, so I reduced about another 3-500 from that number.....but remember, you should NEVER starve yourself. Because I also eat about 50% fat I literally dont feel hungry. And I'm eating less now as my stomach seems to be getting smaller over time. I love to eat, this has always been my problem, good food!! I still love to eat, I'm just more particular about what I consume, making it worth every bite!

I am now 3 months primal and all my clothes are falling off me, I feel clearer minded as well, and this just happened about 15-30 days ago. I didn't realize that I was so cloudy until recently feeling the difference.

I personally am not big into exercise because I tend to bulk up so I just keep moving all day long, i try to include sprints every 2 wks, but that doesn't always happen. perhaps Id loose more doing it weekly but i know how i am.

so the best advice is to remember to remove all the bad foods, take in the right kinds of fats and stick with it and dont worry so much about weight just yet. I promise you that it will drop off in inches, you will notice it more in another month. Its too early to give up, so hang in there and stick it out. I had to become very aware of every calorie i was consuming, use fitday.com, its awesome and shows you what you are consuming in calories/grams and %. I never counted calories before so i had no idea how easy it was to over consume, even of the good stuff!! I never deprive myself but I stay as far away from sugar, processed foods and make good choices, so when I want a glass of wine, i have it! (same with chocolate)

I'm only 5'2 and started in January at 145 (my highest ever!!), and now at 125. I still need to loose another 10lbs of fat to have that leaner look....this is the slowest I've ever lost weight but I'm starting to think that its probably the best way and healthiest. I think I look leaner even now and so the loose looks even greater because of it.

hope this helps! I know these people give awesome advice as well so hang in there!!! kelly

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 02:36 PM

Thanks for sharing Kelly! It amazes me the different weights people feel comfortable at. I am 5'2" and weigh 136 and don't want to go any lower at all. I love it here, I am still curvy, my arms look awesome, my back muscles are really cool. I will never have visible abs due to loose skin issues though. I wear a size extra small or small and size 4 or 6 most of the time. Then again, my "highest ever!!!" was 110 more than where you started, so it is easier for me to be happier at a higher weight, I think.

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(8767)

on April 11, 2011
at 08:33 PM

true! I'm curvy but gravity seems to be playing a role in my lower half..lol...so thats the 10lbs that still needs to go. I never really had weight issues until the last few years dealing with gut issues and food allergies and living abroad and not good access to medical care who could deal with these issues. I noted that now its harder to loose weight and keep it off, so i hope this will do it for me. Hang in there, you'll get there!!!

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(7314)

on April 12, 2011
at 11:00 AM

+1 for a lovely anecdote.

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on April 11, 2011
at 12:49 PM

I know not everyone will agree with me here, but I feel like those calories may be too high. If your metabolism is shot from years of yo-yo dieting, sometimes you need to drop more to lose.

Also IF isn't always for beginners, it can cause too much stress and cortisol increase on your body which can cause stalling. I would probably go back to regularly spaced meals until you are in a better place metabolism/weight-wise.

I am pretty sure you are tracking your food each day, can you give us a link or cut/paste a couple of days so we can see what you've got going on?

Please don't give up yet. Sometimes your body just needs time to catch up also. If you are doing everything right, then just be patient and give it some time. These are major changes.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 12:54 PM

1800 is too high?! Before turning paleo I was trying to stick to 1200 daily and still having issues. It's the gym. I go to the gym at all and I stop losing period. I went 6 months hard core balls to the wall 3x weekly for 2 hours and lost *nothing*. Paleo was supposed to change that - no need to go to the gym! yay! Not. Working.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:58 PM

I am with you on the not trusting hunger signals. I like limits. It helps me. With the 1200 calories, it is all in what you eat. When you did 1200 before you were probably eating some pretty crappy non whole foods stuff. I'm not even suggesting going that low yet, but I would try to drop down to 1600 and maybe raise the protein % a little. I know fat is supposed to fill you up more, but I find the actual eating of food more satisfying.

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(165)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:17 PM

I would agree with melissa... I started counting calories back in 2009... lost 60 lbs. (this was all before I found paleo). At one point I got down to 1200 cal./day, now I'm up to 1500 for maintenance... but I did gain back 15 lbs. (on purpose), I had lost a lot of muscle mass so I intentionally started eating more calories and lifting weights.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:10 PM

I don't believe going to the gym is stopping you from losing weight. I know you do Body Pump and doing that once or twice a week should not be too much. If you truly believe that though, then stop going for a week or two, see if your weight loss re-starts. During that time, you may want to just try some long walk/hikes to give your body some movement.

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(165)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:19 PM

Oh... I should have added I started at 205 lbs., got down to 145 lbs., now sitting at 160-165 lbs., I'm 5'9" and a dude.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:08 PM

I did 1200 for six years while I went from obese to "normal". I am currently at 1300/1400 for maintenance. Everyone is different, you have to find the point where you can eat just enough and still lose. I would probably dial it back to 1600 and see what happens.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:37 PM

1200 calories *made me miserable*, and I can't trust my hunger signals. If I listened to them, I would be eating constantly. I eat dinner together with my boyfriend and its weird if I don't eat with him. Skipping lunch at work is fine, but I usually get hungry by 2pm. I tried a fast on Friday and was RAVENOUS by 1pm and only had some coconut milk for "breakfast" that day.

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(4896)

on April 11, 2011
at 11:21 PM

I think going lower on calories every other day is better than holding them so low for too long. Women generally need around 2000 and more on a workout day. I think what you need most, oranges, is to give yourself some time, relax, let your body do the job in a way that is healthy for it.

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05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:42 PM

wow, 3 whole weeks... eat some protein to deal with your anxiety problems.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:35 PM

the need for citation as proof or convincing is a very clear sign of anxiety/paranoia. you may rationalize it as healthy skepticism, but it shows that you aren't practicing experiments with yourself to gain honest results. you are inside a fear-based state of mind, which is supported by many dysfunctional bio-chemical functions, such as neuro-transmitters aka protein. it's okay, anyone who is or was unhealthy knows this feeling feels valid, but it isn't telling you the truth. eat your non-lean protein and fat (60% or more of est. cals) and heal your gut, acclimate to a new consistent "diet".

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:51 PM

I think I'm eating too much protien already. How does it help with anxiety? Citation please?

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:36 PM

it takes time. lots more time than any of us want it to. its easier to damage ourselves than to heal.

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Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

on April 11, 2011
at 07:21 PM

You didn't lose ten pounds of fat in the first week. That would be 35,000 calories! On an ongoing basis, you should be happy to lose a pound per week. Sounds dysmal if you want to be skinny for summer, but it sounds pretty awesome if you want to be looking good for next summer!

When you want to lose weight, then every week seems like an eternity. On the other hand, if you decide to be paleo for your health, and for a lifetime, then you lose what you lose when you lose it. You plateau, you plummet, you gain and try to figure out why, you lose again, etc. But in general, you get healthier and, over the long-run, leaner. Without hunger and, once you've been at it for a few months, without cravings.

You can always starve yourself and lose weight, but then you'll get hungry and at some point eat your way back up to where you were. So it's probably best to just eat really cleanly, stay away from the legal but dangerous foods (nuts, fruit), eat to satiety but watch out for overeating (1800 cal is reasonable, but probably you don't want to go lower), be very patient, and you'll do fine. Your bloodwork and general health will improve before you reach your weight goals. But you will reach your goals if you stay clean.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 07:24 PM

That's exactly what I'm doing and others around me are doing less and succeeding more.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 07:26 PM

Also, muscle or fat it doesn't matter to me. My legs are HYOOOOOOOOGE. Gonna have to lose a lot of muscle there as well if I ever plan on being able to buy jeans in a normal store and not have them get stuck past my knees. + my calves are ginormous. No where near sexy, they look more like ham hocks.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 11, 2011
at 07:40 PM

I understand what you are saying Michael, but I know I gain weight QUICKLY at 1800 calories. At 1500 calories on a regular basis I gain 1-2 lbs a week.

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:11 PM

I wouldn't start IFing just yet as you are just starting, you still need to fine tune your nutrition and to be honest it takes months to understand how your body works.

It also sounds like you are stressing WAY too much about this. Stress will kill your ability to lose body fat BIG TIME! May i suggest focusing on eating this way to be overall healthy instead of focusing on weight loss.

Also toss out the damn scale. Measure your success by how you FEEL. How your clothes fit. Those scales can drive people nuts. Not to mention if you are gaining muscle then you have to account for that also.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:15 PM

Gaining muscle is great, but there's no way that you're gaining it at *exactly* the same rate you're losing fat, there would be some change, at least. This is the same problem I came up against the last time I went to the gym. Crazy hard work, and no results at all. Last time I gained 15 pounds. At least this time its deciding to stay put (so far..)

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A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on April 11, 2011
at 12:56 PM

I totally agree with @Sherpamelissa. To supplement her answer:

What about your sleep? How many hours are you getting?

Are you losing inches? The scale can be deceiving.

Also, supplementing with Vitamin C can help block cortisol, which sounds like it may be an issue.

I'd also like to add that patience is important. Not everyone sees results quickly. It's taken me a long time of eating well and healing to see serious progression. Your body has to adapt and heal.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 12:59 PM

I get about 7 hours if I'm lucky. Blame my work which is an hour away and I have to get up at 6am. Don't get tired till midnight, ever, unless I take something. Get home from work @ 6:30pm, eat dinner @8pm.. get tired at like 11:30. Partner doesn't go to sleep until 2am (I sleep with earplugs).

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(12379)

on April 11, 2011
at 03:20 PM

Oranges - I just started taking magnesium (natural calm) at night about half an hour before I want to go to bed - it's worked every night - I have been going to bed now at 9:30 or 10pm instead of 11 or 12. Makes a world of difference.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:56 PM

@Bree - I have a bottle of melatonin that seemed to work well. I've just been forgetting to take it. Plus, if I go to bed at 10, I won't get to see anyone in my house for more than an hour. They get home around 8 or 9. So..

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on April 11, 2011
at 02:01 PM

I'd blame cortisol, like sherpamelissa mentioned. It can really stifle progress. I understand about being overweight, but if you're losing inches, that means your still burning fat without sacrificing muscle. I gained 10 lbs after starting CrossFit, and lost 2 inches. Know what I mean?

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 11, 2011
at 01:00 PM

Scale might be deceiving, but 180-something is about 30 pounds higher than I should ever ever be, so it NEEDS TO GO DOWN, regardless.

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(422)

on April 13, 2011
at 04:53 AM

Nap from when you get home till when your family does. Spend a few hours with them, then go to bed again.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on April 13, 2011
at 07:07 PM

@Sigil - if I did that nothing in the house would get done, including dinner, cleaning. I literally wake up, go to work, come home, have 2-3 hours depending on when I get home then must go to bed. Which is why I usually stay up till 11 or 12. Things need to get done. I have to go to the gym. Dinner must be made. Not enough hours in the damn day.

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B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

on April 13, 2011
at 01:02 PM

First of all, you need to relax and lower your stress/cortisol levels or you are just making it REALLY HARD to get the changes you are after.

It took me a entire year to lose 25lbs, it was not a strady progression At All... Most of the effect was from body-composition changes. I am much fitter and healthier than I was, slimmer too. I'm not sure why you think all Paleo-folk get steady losses each week. I did not.

You are training and changing with friends, and that is great, but unless you are quadruplets who live together, exercise together, and work together... then there is no logical reason to think that you would change at the same rate.

I think you might love Mastery: The Keys to Success and Long-Term Fulfillment By George Leonard. This is the book that taught me how to approach plateaus with a good attitude. The very word plateau is suppose to imply that it is a temporary thing that you can work past IF YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

You can read a quick overview here: http://www.asunam.com/mastery.htm

While these guidelines are focused on Mastery, they could be applied to any change in your life.

  1. Be aware of the way homeostasis works.

  2. Be willing to negotiate with your resistance to change.

  3. Develop a support system.

  4. FOLLOW A REGULAR PRACTICE.

  5. Dedicate your self to life-long learning.

Even if you are driven to switch, you should be changing what you are doing on no more than a monthly basis... otherwise you are switching too fast to see what is actually working for you.

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(5002)

on April 12, 2011
at 08:48 AM

I listened to a Jimmy Moore podcast with Kurt Harris today that might be helpful. He was discussing how the response to carbs differs between people who begin paleo relatively skinny, like he did, or relatively overweight, like Moore did. People who begin overweight begin inflamed, insulin insensitive, and leptin insensitive. They will thus be be much more sensitive to carbs than their skinnier counterparts. Moore, who began at 400 lbs, said that he still has to stay below 30 grams/day to avoid gaining weight. Harris explained that Moore's damaged metabolism might never fully recover, though most people's do, albeit slowly.

The upshot is that you might be starting with greater metabolic or hormonal damage than your friends. That means your journey will require both a little extra patience and greater vigilance vis-a-vis carb consumption.

Also, I suggest you take a picture of your scantily clad self as soon as possible. The changes can occur too slowly to track on a day to day basis. For example, I just compared a picture of me taken today to one I took 2 months ago. Before the comparison, I didn't think that I had changed much despite strength training 3 times a week. However, my arms are noticeably thicker, my stomach is flatter, my back has less fat on it, my chest has raised and become more dense, and my torso has started to take on a V shape. All that, and I went in thinking that I was failing to make visual progress.

It really pays to just avoid obsessing over progress while making sure to eat and do the right stuff.

Finally, I'm going to post a Q about this, but I'm beginning to suspect that in general females have different protein/fat requirements than males. While I've heard lots of conflicting anecdotes, I can't ignore the trend of females reporting failure to lose weight and even reports of gaining weight in some cases. For now, I think its important for females to be even more self-experimental than males, if only because the views, findings, experiences, and advice on this forum are male-biased - i.e., to the extent that the male members or commentators outnumber the females. So make sure to find out the sorts of foods, macro-ratios, habits, strategies, and attitudes that work best for you.

And don't forget to take a picture of yourself. You'll be glad you did.

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on April 12, 2011
at 01:02 AM

I'm in your shoes too, no weight loss at all...however I am seeing slight body composition changes and I think this change is due to eliminating cream in my coffee and eating something fermented everyday. My stomach is flatter since I have added in fermented sauerkraut (not the store bought kind). So my two cents if it is worth that is to ditch the heavy cream and coconut milk and eat some delicious soured food.

Everyone has given really good advice, lots of avenues to choose from. If you pick them all, it may be difficult to stick with and/or determine what helps/harms so above all:

Patience, young Padawan!

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(10)

on April 11, 2011
at 06:06 PM

Ill be frank...CHILL OUT! Ive been living a Paleo lifestyle for a tad bit longer than you, almost 5 weeks, and im stalling out all of a sudden as well. I started at 189 and im now at 176. And ive been at 176 for going on 2 weeks now.....BIG DEAL! Im making the choice NOT to freak out over it! Because stress keeps you fat! I dont care about anyone elses opinion on it or what this study or that study says...I believe stress keeps you fat, and you seem to be stressing out HARD about the number on the scale. Why not say to yourself, "The scale is a major source of stress in my life, so im going to just let it go for a while"? Focus on how you feel,and how your clothes fit and to hell with the rest! You shouldnt define yoursrlf by how much you weigh. SO, I guess my advice is to take a chill pill ;)

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(452)

on April 11, 2011
at 09:18 PM

...or stressing about having enough exercise/moving around.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 11, 2011
at 09:16 PM

LizG,I like your attitude!I'm the opposite I need to gain,but feel anxious that I'll keep on gaining once I do allow myself to do what I'd like to do...which is a sitting job. I've always wondered why almost all arty people are lean,despite most of them working out viciously. Could it indeed be our own mental stressing?bc we know what it's like to be overweight and obsessing over food.That thought probably never even came to mind in arty peoples heads,they don't obsess over quantities,what to eat and avoid,binges etc. Could that be the real weightloss/maintenance secret?

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on April 11, 2011
at 05:45 PM

as a woman, you should remember that you'll have hormonal fluctuations within the monthly cycle that may affect your weight. You may be retaining water, blah blah. Of course, you may need to adjust your carb/fat/protein intake, but give it more than 3 weeks to figure out which one of those things it is, and factor in how much hormonal weight fluctuation is normal for you.

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on April 11, 2011
at 05:41 PM

Can I trade with you? I started at 228 and am down to 211. I'm NOT trying to lose weight and I eat everything in sight:(

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on April 11, 2011
at 05:37 PM

My advice: chill. Just do what you can do and the weight loss will come eventually. I plateau for several weeks sometimes and then all of a sudden start losing weight again.

One caveat: how's your blood sugar? Excess blood sugar causes the body to produce insulin, and insulin controls how much your fat cells suck up, and also whether those fat cells release fat. Buy a home glucose monitor and check it several times per day - especially after meals - or at least have your a1c checked on your next doctor's visit. You want it less than 5.

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on April 11, 2011
at 04:40 PM

The whole "30 lbs higher than I should EVER be" comment has me a bit concerned. Are you going off BMI for this? It's a terrible scale for healthy weight! I'm a 6ft tall woman with a very wide build. BMI says I should weigh 130-180 lbs. ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY. I'm going for 200, personally, as I feel that's when my body looked right. That's still "obese" on the BMI scale, but I looked good, I felt good and I was happy.

Don't let some formula tell you how you feel, hon! It's been 3 weeks and you've lost plenty for a month of work. 1 lb a day is a lot of weight being lost, and will not stay at that level.

Don't get discouraged because of the progress of others (especially if they're men! much easier for men to lose weight), be proud of your progress!

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:01 AM

I'm just wondering where you've gotten the "I should be 160" in your life. Who told you that? And you're seriously only 3 weeks in. I've lost less than 30 lbs since Thanksgiving, but I'm sooo happy about it! I've still got another 80 or so to lose, and I'm not dropping it nearly as fast as the stories I had read, but 26 lbs is 26 lbs! That is progress! Are you ONLY going paleo for your weight?

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:49 PM

I weigh 189, I should be 160 to be firmly entrenched in "normal territory". I should be able to wear something like a size 7 and I'm still fitting into twice that. I weighed 165 at my lightest, and was still wearing size 10.. but that wasn't a lot of muscle. I want to be able to go to the beach without having my legs rubbing together, stomach rolls when I sit down, or rolls when I put my arms down (on my back), I want to be able to SEE my abs instead of having them being covered by a layer of flab. I am NO WHERE NEAR being "thin."

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:17 AM

And also, have you tried Crossfit as your exercise? I've heard a lot about it and it makes some RIPPED bodies. But again, that takes time. You will not be seeing magic muscles or inches dropping off in a week or two.

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on April 11, 2011
at 06:50 PM

And it's not 1 lb a day, it has been *no change at all for 14 days* all that weight came off right off the bat, which is why its doubly frustrating. I know plenty of women who are taller than me and wear size 5 - 6. Maybe they weigh more than I think, but they're still small. I just want to be small instead of round.

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on April 13, 2011
at 04:52 AM

Yeah BMI is a load of crap, doctors have used it on me all my life and there is no way my broad shouldered, wide hipped frame is going to look like a woman if I go too far under 200.

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on April 12, 2011
at 04:05 PM

Holy crap - I'm 5'5" and comfortably at 130. That's insane.

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on April 11, 2011
at 01:51 PM

Chronic dieting (1200 cals a day for prolonged periods on top of strenuous exercise) can destroy your metabolism and make any further attempts to lose weight, even with paleo, fail. Not being able to trust your hunger signals is a sure sign that your body is in starvation mode and is hanging on to the fat for dear life. You may want to consider a prolonged refeed to reset your hormones. Check out Matt Stone and 180DegreeHealth for more info.

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on April 11, 2011
at 02:02 PM

I did 1200 calories for 6 years with cardio and weight training. I lost the last 10lbs with Paleo and have now been able to raise my calories and reduce exercise for maintenance. I have never been able to trust hunger signals because I have an eating disorder. If I had tried to "refeed" I would just have become obese again. Every one is different, though.

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