I was paleo for about two years, until my mom was killed in a car accident in October 2012. After the accident my diet consisted of bacon, ice cream, cookie dough and alcohol, and yes, I gained weight. I'm 23 and 5'8''. Before the accident I was 170lbs, Now i'm 200lbs.
In early March I decided to get back on track. I am now paleo (except for weekends, but even then I don't eat gluten or dairy, but will have some rice ect). All of my food is from a local organic market with grass fed and hormone free meat. I also began doing crossfit ~5 days a week. My sugar intake is really low- opting for vegetables instead of fruit ( I'd say I have fruit once every 2-3 weeks). I stopped drinking alcohol expect for maybe a Robb Wolf Nor-Cal margarita here and there.
I get anywhere from 9-11 hours of sleep a night, don't use electronics about an hour before bed, and sleep with a mostly dark room (this one is difficult with a roommate with a different sleeping schedule).
While my stress was high due to the loss of my mom, my stress went down a lot after starting Crossfit and having a healthy outlet.
I was reading on Paleo Hacks about someone who was having a similar problem of losing weight and people suggested counting calories. I tried that for two weeks, but my performance during Crossfit dropped significantly, but my weight or size didn't change.
As stated earlier, I've been doing this for about 3 months. I gained even more weight since March but decided to not take it too seriously since I know I've been also been gaining muscle with Crossfit. What is bothersome though is that my size (I've been measuring myself and taking pictures) hasn't changed either.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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on June 11, 2013
at 09:10 PM
I feel you. I struggle too and I've struggled with my weight all of my life. A few tweaks:
Drop your carbs and fat a bit, get more protein. Avoid nuts, dairy and fruit. I think some starchy carbs are fine as long as its not over 20% of the calories.
Make sure your poops are in order. Probiotics, prebiotics, fermented foods, try to guzzle as much as you can. I can't emphasize this enough.
Back off a bit on the Crossfit. You need to give your body room to rest and to keep your adrenals in check. Love yourself a bit. How about at most 4 times a week? Maybe even just 3. Add some yoga, but like peaceful yoga and not aggressive yoga. Take a break. I'm doing well with high rep kettlebell swings followed by yin or viniyoga.
I wait 3-4 hours after waking to eat. And I eat my carbs at night. And if I was extra good I'd eat my carbs only at night after doing my swings.
And this is mostly a placebo, but I liked the effect: homeopathic remedy called Calc Phos. Acupuncture also helped a bit. If you have a weak spleen and too phlegmy, the weight can stay on no matter what.
Ultimately in my struggle I think it comes down to a dysbiotic gut that sets off a bunch of other reactions, so I'd try to get my gut as healthy as possible. Unfortunately, we've come up to the edge of science and they don't really know how to do it effectively. So despite great macros, great calorie counts, and good exercise, I'm struggling too.
Here's what people won't tell you but you can find easily if you search the word "stall" on here: Not everyone loses weight. This will make you crazy as they'll tout it but its not always true. There's any number of hormonal and digestive issues that can keep you from losing weight. Strive to improve your health and your outlook. Its the only way you can stay sane.
on June 12, 2013
at 05:18 PM
The bottom line is this:
Many people will agree that eating high quality wholesome foods is the best course of action for overall body health. That is in fact why we are sitting on this paleo forum, because we are either already on paleo, or curious about it.
When you are eating whole foods (unless your vegan), your fat intake will naturally go up while your carb intake will naturally go down. The addition of possibly more red meats, nuts, chicken (with skin) will cause the fat intake to go up, while the elimination of grains, breads, pastas, etc.. will cause your carbs to naturally drop. It's virtually impossible to even break 150g of carbs a day if your strictly following paleo. Hell it's quite hard to break 100g of carbs per day.
If anyone doesn't think this is true, plunk what your eating into a free program called Cronometer, which you can find online. It breaks down everything, right down to the nutrient macros. If your strictly paleo, and add everything in, you will find more than likely your carbs will be sitting anywhere from probably 75-125. This is considerably lower than what the "norm" diet is for what we've been lead to believe
Notonancy, even though I agree somewhat with what your saying, you are coming off quite rude on here.. no need for that.
on June 11, 2013
at 09:24 PM
Calories from fat is processed in the body much different than carbs or protein. On the flip side, carbs are processed much differently than proteins and fats, same idea with protein.
The body ideally wants to burn fat for it's energy, not carbs (or glucose). There is a time where it's beneficial to have each of these nutrients in abundance over the rest.
Protein - Basically good anytime of day, but depending on your activity level there is a general rule where it varies from .6 up to 1g of protein per lean mass (depending on activity level)
Carbs - Ideal right after a workout or intense workout where your muscles are depleted of glycogen. It's imperative they are replenished via carbs; this is the time you want your densest amount of carbs during the day. This is when you know the carbs will be used to benefit the body. Any extra carbs get converted into glycogen which in turn gets stored into the liver for later use. If they are not expended, they get stored as fat. This is why you generally dont want to eat anymore carbs than your body needs. Paleo followers generally don't have this problem because the elimination of grains, breads, pastas etc.. removes this excess glycogen. That's why it's encouraged to eat veggies and fruits.
Fats - The body's preferred energy source. It's clean burning, easily accessible, and long lasting. There should be some fat mixed in with every meal to prolong the energy throughout the day. Often when people do this, they find the mid afternoon crashes stop. Fat also sates the appetite so your less likely to binge eat, as well as, it generally makes things taste better.
It's not uncommon for people on the paleo lifestyle to have a diet top-heavy in fat followed by carbs, then protein. This is because with the elimination of grains, a large chunk of the carbs fall.
This is why when people like Paint94979 are asking for nutritional macros and BrianS telling us it depends on what we eat.. it's because it does depend on what we eat. The story from doggery's boss and wife are examples of just this.
In lieu of all that, Morgan, when you get back on here, give us examples of what your normally eat on a daily basis.
on June 11, 2013
at 07:19 PM
How many calories are you getting in per day? Macros?
on June 11, 2013
at 09:52 PM
You don't have too much information about your actual diet. For instance, starches? Potatoes and such can still affect your goals from the carbs... for me, they did.
Also, you might just be gaining muscle. Crossfit is a high intensity sort of excersize.. ( I believe) with slow repetition and heavy weights... ? Anyway, you might just be gaining muscle. If for some reason you're not okay with this, just go low carb.
Leave comments if you disagree.
on June 11, 2013
at 08:43 PM
Wisper, that's not how it works, a calorie in is not a calorie out. There are plenty of people that will tell you that and can vouch for it. My wife for example, figured if she knocked her calories down to 1000-1200 a day she'd lose weight, which was completely false. She ended up gaining because she wasn't considering WHAT she was eating.
My boss, is in the same boat. He's even gone as far as to track and count his calories via n iphone program and keeping them at around 1600-1800 a day. He weighed himself the other day after 2 months of doing this.. and he gained 15lbs..
Why might you think that'd be?
Myself on the other land, lost 20lbs over 1.5 months keeping my calories around 3000. You'll find countless threads on here and posts of people posting similar things.
Be very careful about that type of misinformation you spread as you could get someone hurt if they follow that advice.
on June 11, 2013
at 07:26 PM
It will all depend on what your eating exactly. Don't count calories as their effect on the body varies on where they come from. There have been people who've eaten excess of 4000 calories a day in meat and fats and have lost weight.
Best to give us an idea of what your daily meals are.
on June 12, 2013
at 01:26 AM
There seems to be a LOT of bitter fatties on here.
And a lot of liars.....if one follows a paleo diet it's almost impossible to not lose weight. Add crossfit and something here is wrong Either your metabolism went to zero or you are not telling us about the two packs of ice cream you stress eat.
I did Mauro DiPasquales crazy calorie high Anabolic Diet. I followed it to the "T" and my daily intake of calories for Mon-Fri was 4-5k easily. Easily. The weekends were simply a nightmare of eating and gorging. I gained muscle mass and lost BF like crazy even though my weight didn't budge. My pant size went down 4" and my chest went up 4" and my biceps 2".
I can't eat like that anymore so I went pure paleo and I can't keep on the fat no matter how hard I eat. So I am skeptical about your claims. Sorry.