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Paleo & Crossfit for 3 months, experiencing weight gain & no loss of inches

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Created June 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM

I was paleo for about two years, until my mom was killed in a car accident in October 2012. After the accident my diet consisted of bacon, ice cream, cookie dough and alcohol, and yes, I gained weight. I'm 23 and 5'8''. Before the accident I was 170lbs, Now i'm 200lbs.

In early March I decided to get back on track. I am now paleo (except for weekends, but even then I don't eat gluten or dairy, but will have some rice ect). All of my food is from a local organic market with grass fed and hormone free meat. I also began doing crossfit ~5 days a week. My sugar intake is really low- opting for vegetables instead of fruit ( I'd say I have fruit once every 2-3 weeks). I stopped drinking alcohol expect for maybe a Robb Wolf Nor-Cal margarita here and there.

I get anywhere from 9-11 hours of sleep a night, don't use electronics about an hour before bed, and sleep with a mostly dark room (this one is difficult with a roommate with a different sleeping schedule).

While my stress was high due to the loss of my mom, my stress went down a lot after starting Crossfit and having a healthy outlet.

I was reading on Paleo Hacks about someone who was having a similar problem of losing weight and people suggested counting calories. I tried that for two weeks, but my performance during Crossfit dropped significantly, but my weight or size didn't change.

As stated earlier, I've been doing this for about 3 months. I gained even more weight since March but decided to not take it too seriously since I know I've been also been gaining muscle with Crossfit. What is bothersome though is that my size (I've been measuring myself and taking pictures) hasn't changed either.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

he would be eaten by wild dogs on the outskirts of his jersey shore cave.

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on August 23, 2013
at 08:10 PM

I went to my doctor about a month ago after not having any success with losing the weight. He examined my thyroid, and noticed it was enlarged, and did tests that showed I was having thyroid problems. I'm now on medicine for it, and am losing then weight that I should have been losing months ago. Thanks everyone for your help!

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on June 13, 2013
at 02:14 AM

Brian, there are loads of people who claim it. And there are loads of scientific work that disproves it (regardless of the quality of the calories). There are no scientific studies that even hint that it could be correct. In fact, in every scientific study that has looked at the paleo diet, paleo eaters naturally (without measurements or encouragement) ate fewer calories. This happens because of the nutrient density and increased satiety of fatty food and high glucose carbs. Eating Paleo leads to the body requiring fewer calories than it would with hyper-palatable foods. That's it.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 13, 2013
at 02:08 AM

Tyg, I love your enthusiasm. Glucose does not get stored as fat any more quickly that fat does. It is also not imperative that glycogen gets restored by carbohydrates. Read up on GNG. You are mixing half truths, wives tales, and blatantly wrong facts. I sincerely suggest you do more research into nutritional biology. Just a side note. If the body prefers fat, why does the brain run on glucose? and why would the body burn glucose prior to fat? and why would the body crave glucose but not fat?

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:18 PM

Tygerian, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once or twice every 2-3 weeks). As stated earlier when I do have cheat days, it never includes gluten or dairy (I'm allergic), but will include things like rice or soy.

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:16 PM

Hi Notanancy, I don't appreciate being called a bitter fattie. I'd prefere confused fattie :) As for the ice cream I'm not telling you about? I am actually mildly allergic to dairy and gluten, so I don't eat that at all. While I was eating those things after my mom died, I have now stopped eating them all together. I'm also confused why you think I'm lying. I have nothing to hide, ESPECIALLY if I'm looking for help. I'm just as confused as you, hence me posting my on Paleo Hacks. So, thanks for your response, but from reading your other comments, you're just a troll.

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Allison, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once or twice every 2-3 weeks). As stated earlier when I do have cheat days, it never includes gluten or dairy, but will include things like rice or soy.

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:02 PM

CD, I apologize for not having a straightforward question. I realize that was my mistake after posting my question. And thanks for the good luck wishes, I'm trying!

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:00 PM

I'm not quite sure, but I do know on the days I do crossfit I feel ravenous. My guess is about 2000 calories. When I tried cutting calories I stayed between 1200- 1500 calories, but as stated in my post, I felt dizzy on crossfit, so I stopped. I'm not quite sure what you mean by macros. While I was paleo of 2 years, I don't know much of the wording /science.

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on June 12, 2013
at 07:52 PM

Brian, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once every 2-3 weeks).

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on June 12, 2013
at 05:24 PM

CD.. There are many threads on this forum discussing it. Last one I read was last week. I'm not sure if you navigate through all the threads, or just the ones that sound interesting to you, but if you navigate through them; you'll find continuous examples. I am an example of it, after following the low caloric and going no where. My naturopath is another example of it, he's the one who directed me to Paleo. Our admin assistant, in our office here is another example. Just type it in google, high fat with weight loss, you'll find many cases

60ec6744494e3010ca38040c825ecc8b

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on June 12, 2013
at 05:04 PM

Nope, CD, the body does not prefer glucose over fat. Glucose gets stored as fat if its not immediately used, this is common knowledge, or at least it should be. Never read live strong, there is a certain science behind nutrition and the specific nutrients effect on the body. Despite what some people may think, high fat diets that are low to moderate carbs will almost always burn more body fat than the other way around. This is strictly because of how body wants to process it's nutrients.

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on June 12, 2013
at 02:37 AM

Yeah I'm a fatty motherf*** and I will out lift you, out weigh you and out live you in any endurance race, famine, war, pestilence, and mf'in disease if for no other reason your ignorant ass. GTFO.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 12, 2013
at 02:03 AM

Aren't you a bipolar binge eating lunatic? You are far from the norm sweetie. You need to stfu.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on June 12, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Yes, you are extremely rude. You are welcome to share your views about paleo, what is and isn't beneficial in your experience and or your background, and advise others, but do try to be polite and constructive about it.

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on June 12, 2013
at 01:52 AM

??? 'bitter fatties'? How obscenely rude. Some people lose weight faster than others, some don't realize they have less fat than they think, some people are so metabolically and hormonally screwed up by previous diets that their bodies want to normalize before they lose any of the excess. Also, are you a guy? Because weight loss is different for women in regards to hormones and natural body fat levels. Count your blessings that you "can't keep the fat on no matter how hard [you] eat."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 12, 2013
at 01:47 AM

I don't care about the vote downs. It's tough love. If you fatties and losers want to whine and complain about a "diet" not working then post your daily eating diary here...ad be honest. Include that pack of ding dongs and twinkies cause your hubby went to the strip joint and you were stressed out. I bet you guys eat like pigs.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:35 PM

Morgan, so much bad science below. Feel free to delete and pray better luck in that

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:33 PM

In fact the body prefers alcohol and glucose over fat. Both are significantly more "clean burning". The body prefers to store fat since it is more than twice as nutritionally dense.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:31 PM

Ha. Great post. Any actual science behind those claims or are you copy/ paste from live strong?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:30 PM

Ha. Taking in healthy calories is hardly the same as eat at a caloric surplus to loose weight. Eat at a caloric deficit to loose weight. Eat high quality food for health.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:28 PM

Brian, please point me to one documented case. Please. The only evidence I have ever found of people loosing weight while at a caloric surplus either have tape worms or scurvy.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:47 PM

lol can't believe this nonsense is getting upvotes. Yes, some outliers can lose weight on 4k calories, but not normal people with actual lives to live.

338d9aa6f1d050fe0dbbeb6f6e90f579

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:04 PM

My boss has been to the doctor; he's the one that advised him to lose weight as he needs surgery. He told him to stop eating the way he was (reduced calorie and what he was in-taking). Unfortunately he didn't offer him any suggestions beyond (take in more healthy calories).

1a6ad0d62f779ca50babe92d70ea6a0c

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:00 PM

I'm in no way suggesting to eat 4000+ calories a day, because like you eluded to that's more for professional athletes, and frankly it'd be a big waste of money. The point is people have eaten that much who have been sedentary with no nutritional deficits, and lost weight. That is because you don't look at calories as a vehicle for weight loss. You can eat 4000-5000 calories a day and lose weight; you can also gain weight. You can also eat 1000 calories a day and gain weight, or you can lose it.. it depends on what your eating

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:55 PM

And at the same time, I've lost 94 lbs in a year eating reduced calories and making sure that 90% of the foods I eat are healthy foods. It's not as *simple* as calories in vs. calories out, but that is part of the overall equation.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:54 PM

People who loose weight at 4000 calories a day (assuming they are not exercising like a professional athlete) are creating some seriously expensive poop and are likely in a significantly degraded nutrient level.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:52 PM

But a calorie is a calorie and a calorie is 4.2 kilojoules of energy (assuming we are talking about dietary calories which are actually kilocalories. If we are talking about actual calories that it is 4.2 joules). This is the amount of amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree celsius. That's it. That's all a calorie is. If you boss gained 15lbs in a two months at a caloric deficit, he needs to see a doctor ASAP (unless his name is Fred Dukes).

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:29 PM

Nope, depends on what they're eating, plain and simple.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:11 PM

Paleo is not a magic bullet. You need to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight, no matter what broscientists tell you.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:10 PM

-1, broscience.

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at 07:16 PM

What is the question?

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19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:10 PM

I feel you. I struggle too and I've struggled with my weight all of my life. A few tweaks:

Drop your carbs and fat a bit, get more protein. Avoid nuts, dairy and fruit. I think some starchy carbs are fine as long as its not over 20% of the calories.

Make sure your poops are in order. Probiotics, prebiotics, fermented foods, try to guzzle as much as you can. I can't emphasize this enough.

Back off a bit on the Crossfit. You need to give your body room to rest and to keep your adrenals in check. Love yourself a bit. How about at most 4 times a week? Maybe even just 3. Add some yoga, but like peaceful yoga and not aggressive yoga. Take a break. I'm doing well with high rep kettlebell swings followed by yin or viniyoga.

I wait 3-4 hours after waking to eat. And I eat my carbs at night. And if I was extra good I'd eat my carbs only at night after doing my swings.

And this is mostly a placebo, but I liked the effect: homeopathic remedy called Calc Phos. Acupuncture also helped a bit. If you have a weak spleen and too phlegmy, the weight can stay on no matter what.

Ultimately in my struggle I think it comes down to a dysbiotic gut that sets off a bunch of other reactions, so I'd try to get my gut as healthy as possible. Unfortunately, we've come up to the edge of science and they don't really know how to do it effectively. So despite great macros, great calorie counts, and good exercise, I'm struggling too.

Here's what people won't tell you but you can find easily if you search the word "stall" on here: Not everyone loses weight. This will make you crazy as they'll tout it but its not always true. There's any number of hormonal and digestive issues that can keep you from losing weight. Strive to improve your health and your outlook. Its the only way you can stay sane.

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on June 12, 2013
at 05:18 PM

The bottom line is this:

Many people will agree that eating high quality wholesome foods is the best course of action for overall body health. That is in fact why we are sitting on this paleo forum, because we are either already on paleo, or curious about it.

When you are eating whole foods (unless your vegan), your fat intake will naturally go up while your carb intake will naturally go down. The addition of possibly more red meats, nuts, chicken (with skin) will cause the fat intake to go up, while the elimination of grains, breads, pastas, etc.. will cause your carbs to naturally drop. It's virtually impossible to even break 150g of carbs a day if your strictly following paleo. Hell it's quite hard to break 100g of carbs per day.

If anyone doesn't think this is true, plunk what your eating into a free program called Cronometer, which you can find online. It breaks down everything, right down to the nutrient macros. If your strictly paleo, and add everything in, you will find more than likely your carbs will be sitting anywhere from probably 75-125. This is considerably lower than what the "norm" diet is for what we've been lead to believe

Notonancy, even though I agree somewhat with what your saying, you are coming off quite rude on here.. no need for that.

A9b9327e54e93516833c20f60aa6bc45

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:18 PM

Tygerian, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once or twice every 2-3 weeks). As stated earlier when I do have cheat days, it never includes gluten or dairy (I'm allergic), but will include things like rice or soy.

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:24 PM

Calories from fat is processed in the body much different than carbs or protein. On the flip side, carbs are processed much differently than proteins and fats, same idea with protein.

The body ideally wants to burn fat for it's energy, not carbs (or glucose). There is a time where it's beneficial to have each of these nutrients in abundance over the rest.

Protein - Basically good anytime of day, but depending on your activity level there is a general rule where it varies from .6 up to 1g of protein per lean mass (depending on activity level)

Carbs - Ideal right after a workout or intense workout where your muscles are depleted of glycogen. It's imperative they are replenished via carbs; this is the time you want your densest amount of carbs during the day. This is when you know the carbs will be used to benefit the body. Any extra carbs get converted into glycogen which in turn gets stored into the liver for later use. If they are not expended, they get stored as fat. This is why you generally dont want to eat anymore carbs than your body needs. Paleo followers generally don't have this problem because the elimination of grains, breads, pastas etc.. removes this excess glycogen. That's why it's encouraged to eat veggies and fruits.

Fats - The body's preferred energy source. It's clean burning, easily accessible, and long lasting. There should be some fat mixed in with every meal to prolong the energy throughout the day. Often when people do this, they find the mid afternoon crashes stop. Fat also sates the appetite so your less likely to binge eat, as well as, it generally makes things taste better.

It's not uncommon for people on the paleo lifestyle to have a diet top-heavy in fat followed by carbs, then protein. This is because with the elimination of grains, a large chunk of the carbs fall.

This is why when people like Paint94979 are asking for nutritional macros and BrianS telling us it depends on what we eat.. it's because it does depend on what we eat. The story from doggery's boss and wife are examples of just this.

In lieu of all that, Morgan, when you get back on here, give us examples of what your normally eat on a daily basis.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on June 11, 2013
at 11:31 PM

Ha. Great post. Any actual science behind those claims or are you copy/ paste from live strong?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on June 13, 2013
at 02:08 AM

Tyg, I love your enthusiasm. Glucose does not get stored as fat any more quickly that fat does. It is also not imperative that glycogen gets restored by carbohydrates. Read up on GNG. You are mixing half truths, wives tales, and blatantly wrong facts. I sincerely suggest you do more research into nutritional biology. Just a side note. If the body prefers fat, why does the brain run on glucose? and why would the body burn glucose prior to fat? and why would the body crave glucose but not fat?

60ec6744494e3010ca38040c825ecc8b

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on June 12, 2013
at 05:04 PM

Nope, CD, the body does not prefer glucose over fat. Glucose gets stored as fat if its not immediately used, this is common knowledge, or at least it should be. Never read live strong, there is a certain science behind nutrition and the specific nutrients effect on the body. Despite what some people may think, high fat diets that are low to moderate carbs will almost always burn more body fat than the other way around. This is strictly because of how body wants to process it's nutrients.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on June 11, 2013
at 11:33 PM

In fact the body prefers alcohol and glucose over fat. Both are significantly more "clean burning". The body prefers to store fat since it is more than twice as nutritionally dense.

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on June 11, 2013
at 07:19 PM

How many calories are you getting in per day? Macros?

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:00 PM

I'm not quite sure, but I do know on the days I do crossfit I feel ravenous. My guess is about 2000 calories. When I tried cutting calories I stayed between 1200- 1500 calories, but as stated in my post, I felt dizzy on crossfit, so I stopped. I'm not quite sure what you mean by macros. While I was paleo of 2 years, I don't know much of the wording /science.

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:52 PM

You don't have too much information about your actual diet. For instance, starches? Potatoes and such can still affect your goals from the carbs... for me, they did.

Also, you might just be gaining muscle. Crossfit is a high intensity sort of excersize.. ( I believe) with slow repetition and heavy weights... ? Anyway, you might just be gaining muscle. If for some reason you're not okay with this, just go low carb.

Leave comments if you disagree.

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Allison, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once or twice every 2-3 weeks). As stated earlier when I do have cheat days, it never includes gluten or dairy, but will include things like rice or soy.

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:43 PM

Wisper, that's not how it works, a calorie in is not a calorie out. There are plenty of people that will tell you that and can vouch for it. My wife for example, figured if she knocked her calories down to 1000-1200 a day she'd lose weight, which was completely false. She ended up gaining because she wasn't considering WHAT she was eating.

My boss, is in the same boat. He's even gone as far as to track and count his calories via n iphone program and keeping them at around 1600-1800 a day. He weighed himself the other day after 2 months of doing this.. and he gained 15lbs..

Why might you think that'd be?

Myself on the other land, lost 20lbs over 1.5 months keeping my calories around 3000. You'll find countless threads on here and posts of people posting similar things.

Be very careful about that type of misinformation you spread as you could get someone hurt if they follow that advice.

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:55 PM

And at the same time, I've lost 94 lbs in a year eating reduced calories and making sure that 90% of the foods I eat are healthy foods. It's not as *simple* as calories in vs. calories out, but that is part of the overall equation.

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on June 11, 2013
at 09:04 PM

My boss has been to the doctor; he's the one that advised him to lose weight as he needs surgery. He told him to stop eating the way he was (reduced calorie and what he was in-taking). Unfortunately he didn't offer him any suggestions beyond (take in more healthy calories).

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on June 11, 2013
at 11:30 PM

Ha. Taking in healthy calories is hardly the same as eat at a caloric surplus to loose weight. Eat at a caloric deficit to loose weight. Eat high quality food for health.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on June 11, 2013
at 08:52 PM

But a calorie is a calorie and a calorie is 4.2 kilojoules of energy (assuming we are talking about dietary calories which are actually kilocalories. If we are talking about actual calories that it is 4.2 joules). This is the amount of amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water by one degree celsius. That's it. That's all a calorie is. If you boss gained 15lbs in a two months at a caloric deficit, he needs to see a doctor ASAP (unless his name is Fred Dukes).

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on June 11, 2013
at 07:26 PM

It will all depend on what your eating exactly. Don't count calories as their effect on the body varies on where they come from. There have been people who've eaten excess of 4000 calories a day in meat and fats and have lost weight.

Best to give us an idea of what your daily meals are.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on June 11, 2013
at 11:28 PM

Brian, please point me to one documented case. Please. The only evidence I have ever found of people loosing weight while at a caloric surplus either have tape worms or scurvy.

1a6ad0d62f779ca50babe92d70ea6a0c

(137)

on June 11, 2013
at 09:00 PM

I'm in no way suggesting to eat 4000+ calories a day, because like you eluded to that's more for professional athletes, and frankly it'd be a big waste of money. The point is people have eaten that much who have been sedentary with no nutritional deficits, and lost weight. That is because you don't look at calories as a vehicle for weight loss. You can eat 4000-5000 calories a day and lose weight; you can also gain weight. You can also eat 1000 calories a day and gain weight, or you can lose it.. it depends on what your eating

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on June 12, 2013
at 05:24 PM

CD.. There are many threads on this forum discussing it. Last one I read was last week. I'm not sure if you navigate through all the threads, or just the ones that sound interesting to you, but if you navigate through them; you'll find continuous examples. I am an example of it, after following the low caloric and going no where. My naturopath is another example of it, he's the one who directed me to Paleo. Our admin assistant, in our office here is another example. Just type it in google, high fat with weight loss, you'll find many cases

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:54 PM

People who loose weight at 4000 calories a day (assuming they are not exercising like a professional athlete) are creating some seriously expensive poop and are likely in a significantly degraded nutrient level.

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on June 12, 2013
at 07:52 PM

Brian, A general week: Breakfast: ALWAYS eggs, bacon, and avocado. Black cofee. Lunch: Some kind of salad with meat (either chicken or ground beef on top) with oilve oil and balsamic vinegar. dinner: Usually grilled vegetables (asparagus! onions, zucchini) with meat (either steak or chicken) (all my meat is usually cooked in bacon grease or coconut oil). If I snack, it's usually nuts. Occasionally I'll have frozen fruit (once every 2-3 weeks).

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on June 11, 2013
at 08:10 PM

-1, broscience.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on June 11, 2013
at 09:47 PM

lol can't believe this nonsense is getting upvotes. Yes, some outliers can lose weight on 4k calories, but not normal people with actual lives to live.

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on June 11, 2013
at 08:29 PM

Nope, depends on what they're eating, plain and simple.

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(26217)

on June 13, 2013
at 02:14 AM

Brian, there are loads of people who claim it. And there are loads of scientific work that disproves it (regardless of the quality of the calories). There are no scientific studies that even hint that it could be correct. In fact, in every scientific study that has looked at the paleo diet, paleo eaters naturally (without measurements or encouragement) ate fewer calories. This happens because of the nutrient density and increased satiety of fatty food and high glucose carbs. Eating Paleo leads to the body requiring fewer calories than it would with hyper-palatable foods. That's it.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 12, 2013
at 01:26 AM

There seems to be a LOT of bitter fatties on here.

And a lot of liars.....if one follows a paleo diet it's almost impossible to not lose weight. Add crossfit and something here is wrong Either your metabolism went to zero or you are not telling us about the two packs of ice cream you stress eat.

I did Mauro DiPasquales crazy calorie high Anabolic Diet. I followed it to the "T" and my daily intake of calories for Mon-Fri was 4-5k easily. Easily. The weekends were simply a nightmare of eating and gorging. I gained muscle mass and lost BF like crazy even though my weight didn't budge. My pant size went down 4" and my chest went up 4" and my biceps 2".

I can't eat like that anymore so I went pure paleo and I can't keep on the fat no matter how hard I eat. So I am skeptical about your claims. Sorry.

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(10480)

on June 12, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Yes, you are extremely rude. You are welcome to share your views about paleo, what is and isn't beneficial in your experience and or your background, and advise others, but do try to be polite and constructive about it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 12, 2013
at 02:03 AM

Aren't you a bipolar binge eating lunatic? You are far from the norm sweetie. You need to stfu.

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

he would be eaten by wild dogs on the outskirts of his jersey shore cave.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 12, 2013
at 01:47 AM

I don't care about the vote downs. It's tough love. If you fatties and losers want to whine and complain about a "diet" not working then post your daily eating diary here...ad be honest. Include that pack of ding dongs and twinkies cause your hubby went to the strip joint and you were stressed out. I bet you guys eat like pigs.

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(1207)

on June 12, 2013
at 02:37 AM

Yeah I'm a fatty motherf*** and I will out lift you, out weigh you and out live you in any endurance race, famine, war, pestilence, and mf'in disease if for no other reason your ignorant ass. GTFO.

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on June 12, 2013
at 01:52 AM

??? 'bitter fatties'? How obscenely rude. Some people lose weight faster than others, some don't realize they have less fat than they think, some people are so metabolically and hormonally screwed up by previous diets that their bodies want to normalize before they lose any of the excess. Also, are you a guy? Because weight loss is different for women in regards to hormones and natural body fat levels. Count your blessings that you "can't keep the fat on no matter how hard [you] eat."

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:16 PM

Hi Notanancy, I don't appreciate being called a bitter fattie. I'd prefere confused fattie :) As for the ice cream I'm not telling you about? I am actually mildly allergic to dairy and gluten, so I don't eat that at all. While I was eating those things after my mom died, I have now stopped eating them all together. I'm also confused why you think I'm lying. I have nothing to hide, ESPECIALLY if I'm looking for help. I'm just as confused as you, hence me posting my on Paleo Hacks. So, thanks for your response, but from reading your other comments, you're just a troll.

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