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newbie paleo has questions

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 17, 2010 at 6:55 AM

I'm a paleo newbie and recently-recovered vegan, and I've been at it for a week. Mostly it's going well, and I'm impressed by how much energy and endurance I have during my workouts! I seem to recover more quickly too. But I have a few questions.

  1. Often after eating a full paleo meal I feel nauseated afterwards - extremely energetic, but queasy. Is this normal? Is it temporary?

  2. After eating said full meal I get a burst of irresistible, manic energy and feel I NEED to work out. This is very convenient if I plan to go running or hiking, but frustrating if I'm about to go to work. Should I eat less? Or adjust my meal times maybe?

  3. I'm interested in weight loss, so I've been experimenting with fasting, but it goes rather terribly for me. I get shaky and tend to gorge later. Is fasting necessary for weight loss on a paleo diet? Should I wait for a while before trying fasting?

Thanks!

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on December 18, 2010
at 02:28 AM

I take kickboxing in the mornings - perhaps I'll try fasting during my classes and see how it goes. Thanks for the info, guys!

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on December 17, 2010
at 08:07 PM

And I second Aaron about the fasted weight training. Most people on Martin's program do it in the morning, if I'm not mistaken. That's when I do it anyhow.

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on December 17, 2010
at 08:05 PM

That's great about the energy, Rachel, I guess you just have to go with it for a while if it doesn't make you feel overtired or sore. As long as you're looking out for the symptoms of overtraining. I do this to myself in the summer sometimes and at some point I realize I'm having trouble climbing the stairs to my apartment, like a man much older than I am (I'm in my thirties). When that happens I rest up for a week and go back to it with new energy.

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on December 17, 2010
at 05:49 PM

IF can really help with weight loss, but it took me more than 6 months of paleo before I could do it. Part of that might be mental on my part. Now I just eat when hungry - usually 2 meals per day.

4e2a7b49a7196fb7fe1ca014b09c47ed

on December 17, 2010
at 04:01 PM

Haha, I don't think there's anything "special" about the meal itself. Last night the energy burst happened after a big fillet of salmon and some coconut butter. But maybe because I switched straight turkey from an ultra-low-fat vegan diet to a pretty high-fat paleo diet I'm just feeling the effects really dramatically? Honestly, I feel amazing! Last night after eating I was compelled to run for 2 hours, and only stopped because I had work to do and not because I was tired. Plus I ran an hour that morning. (No soreness!) :) I feel nourished for the first time in years. Thanks for the link!

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on December 17, 2010
at 02:05 PM

I know that when I first started paleo eating, fasting made me feel quite ill, but once my body had adapted, fasting is quite easy, often pleasant in a psychological and physical sense (it's nice when you feel energetic and yet also not "filled up"). My experience though was that it took a month or two before I was ready for fasting.

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on December 17, 2010
at 07:58 AM

Hi, Rachel.

  1. It can take your body a while to get better at digesting fat. This happened to me, it was a gradual transition over about a month or two. I didn't have trouble after every meal, mind you, but after some of them. I would also have some digestive trouble -- things passing through -- but that stopped entirely. (I still have some nausea though, but that is my own issue with hunger management; sometimes I am ravenously hungry after a truly, shockingly enormous meal, and sometimes I am nauseated after a meal that otherwise would be just right for me. But this is neither here nor there.)

  2. The energy might be a sign that you are eating too much. Your body, in an effort not to change the amount of fat you are carrying (an effort to "maintain the body fat setpoint"), wants to burn some of the calories off. You might find if you increase the intensity of your regularly scheduled workouts then this will happen less. I would prefer giving that as advice to telling you to eat less, just because people sometimes misconstrue paleo eating as a "diet" -- but it shouldn't be restrictive. ... Anyhow I know that feeling of energy and it's frustrating not to be able to go with it. My idea is that if you increase intensity in general then it will happen less. Don't think of the burst of energy happening because of what happened at that one particular meal, but rather think of it as happening because you're just not exercising enough in general, over a period of several days or a week. That's how it is for me, in any event. When it's been too long since I've exercised I get a little jumpy. You can try weights, too.

  3. I think the word of the wise on fasting is that you should work your way into it gradually. You might want to think of it in an "inverted" way. So, instead of "I'm going to go as long as I can without eating," think "I know it's breakfast time and I normally eat now, but I'm not hungry, so I just won't bother." Basically you're letting hunger be your guide, but not the false hunger of customary eating times; instead it's the real hunger from inside your body. It will happen eventually that you'll want to skip a meal, I'd bet on it. And you may eventually only want to eat two meals a day. It happens to a lot of people once they start filling up on protein and fat. I know that temptation, though, to try to equal people you're reading about online, but the primary directive should be: obey your body. Just don't snack or eat meals when you don't really need to; I think that's really the essence of fasting.

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on December 17, 2010
at 05:49 PM

IF can really help with weight loss, but it took me more than 6 months of paleo before I could do it. Part of that might be mental on my part. Now I just eat when hungry - usually 2 meals per day.

89a3eb9e05b04102f0a584e438a7da3e

(1136)

on December 17, 2010
at 02:05 PM

I know that when I first started paleo eating, fasting made me feel quite ill, but once my body had adapted, fasting is quite easy, often pleasant in a psychological and physical sense (it's nice when you feel energetic and yet also not "filled up"). My experience though was that it took a month or two before I was ready for fasting.

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on December 17, 2010
at 11:31 AM

  1. Agree with Paul. I also had trouble with fat at first (digestion and constipation). Now, if I don't get fat in a meal I feel lethargic (similar to how i used to feel after a big carb meal).

  2. What exactly is in this super energy meal? I do get energized after a pound of meat and a few veggies but I don't have maniac energy. I want your maniac energy....lol.

  3. IF'ing and working out at the end of a fast is a proven way to burn more fat and not muscle. I suggest you check out Martin Berhan's website for IF'ing info. Try shorter fasts working up to 16-18 hour fasts (8 hours of the fast can be your sleep, your half way there). You get home from work, exercise in a fasted state then eat. Eat right before bed if still hungry ( I believe Martin suggests this, I cant remember), and by the way, gorging yourself at the end of a fast is the only way to do it (you have to refuel). You will be surprised how well the body adapts to IF'ing.

4e2a7b49a7196fb7fe1ca014b09c47ed

on December 17, 2010
at 04:01 PM

Haha, I don't think there's anything "special" about the meal itself. Last night the energy burst happened after a big fillet of salmon and some coconut butter. But maybe because I switched straight turkey from an ultra-low-fat vegan diet to a pretty high-fat paleo diet I'm just feeling the effects really dramatically? Honestly, I feel amazing! Last night after eating I was compelled to run for 2 hours, and only stopped because I had work to do and not because I was tired. Plus I ran an hour that morning. (No soreness!) :) I feel nourished for the first time in years. Thanks for the link!

4e2a7b49a7196fb7fe1ca014b09c47ed

on December 18, 2010
at 02:28 AM

I take kickboxing in the mornings - perhaps I'll try fasting during my classes and see how it goes. Thanks for the info, guys!

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on December 17, 2010
at 08:07 PM

And I second Aaron about the fasted weight training. Most people on Martin's program do it in the morning, if I'm not mistaken. That's when I do it anyhow.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on December 17, 2010
at 08:05 PM

That's great about the energy, Rachel, I guess you just have to go with it for a while if it doesn't make you feel overtired or sore. As long as you're looking out for the symptoms of overtraining. I do this to myself in the summer sometimes and at some point I realize I'm having trouble climbing the stairs to my apartment, like a man much older than I am (I'm in my thirties). When that happens I rest up for a week and go back to it with new energy.

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