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New to Paleo: general questions about weight loss

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Created May 18, 2012 at 6:58 PM

So, I started on Paleo on Monday, it's Friday and my stomach has shrunk a lot, I've lost 5lb and I have a lot of energy, things could not be better. I am active - I have a waitress job, I do HIIT 3x a week and weights 3x a week. I'm 20, female, 128lb (now) and 5ft7 - my question is, why am I seeing such amazing results so quickly? Once I am in ketosis (no idea if I am or not yet) will this result in more fat loss? And is it normal to eat morning and night but not feel hungry during the day? (this means im only getting 700-1000 calories a day and i burn around 800 daily) Will this effect weightloss/slow my metabolism down later on? Any answers to any o my questions would be greatly appreciated. :)

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on May 21, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Also, paleo or primal is not about eating low carb -- it's more about eating whole, nutrient dense foods...Just some people USE it to eat low carb.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 19, 2012
at 07:48 AM

I think maybe temporarily having a very low intake of calories is ok as long as u reintroduce them slowly and in the right way, it shouldn't affect the weight loss process. (at least that's my opinion) I'm more wondering how I can get my cals up, I've read some things on here people have said up the protein if u work out a lot, some say up the fat. I think the fat is a good one cos it's higher in calories and if thats what we burn on low carbs then it will be used up as fuel. Means I could easily get over 1000 cals just by adding olive oil on my salads throughout the day.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 19, 2012
at 07:44 AM

Thank u that's great advice, before looking though I'm doubtful that they have one - I'm from a small town in Scotland that doesn't have much lol. But there might be one close enough I can join :) x

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 19, 2012
at 07:42 AM

I have been doing my exercise routine pretty strictly for a few months with no visual results. (other than I put 5lb of muscle on as my bfp stayed the same but I gained weight) but this was not really reflected in my image. I don't really want to lose weight - but getting my body fat down would be great. That's my goal really. I know I'm slim, it's just vanity lbs left that don't wanna shift.

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on May 19, 2012
at 01:19 AM

But I agree, she is healthy and fine :)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 19, 2012
at 01:18 AM

She said she is lifting 3x a week and doing HIIT 3x a week as well. I think she is plenty active in all the right ways- if anything, she could stand to take a couple days off a week since the goal is weight loss.

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on May 18, 2012
at 10:42 PM

I've been doing this for 2 weeks myself and I'm getting great weightlos results as well. I understand about what you mean though about eating in the day. I'm struggling eating more than 1000 calories

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on May 18, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Here is the link:http://www.meetup.com/ just search your interest (try paleo) and your location.

A3ff262a2686d79789e09a26013901b3

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on May 18, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Don't know where you live, but try looking for a paleo or outdoor or any type of club that interest you for some social interaction and support. I live near Vancouver, Canada and there is a paleo meet-up group here; maybe there is one in your area as well.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Oh, just read the last part, I'm glad I'm not fighting a losing battle :) well done on losing the bf. that's all I wanna do! Lol but I would like to still be healthy whilst doing it!

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:57 PM

So do u think adding more protein and bringing carbs up a little would do me good? (I can definitely do that :) ) I know I'm doing this for primarily vanity, but would love to see my mental health get better as well! :)

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:53 PM

I pretty much obsess about my weight, food, diet, exercise etc all the time. I have OCD and slight depression which isn't a good mix with food and exercise. It's how I can eat so little and not really care. But I'd like to stop that habit. I moved away by myself for uni last year and didnt really make any friends at uni that I hang about with cos I don't drink so don't feel very social. That's pretty much where the problem started. It would be great to get my silly wee mind off health and just think of living. I already have a more positive head on me this week. :)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:53 PM

And I am slowly seeing what is left of my belly and my last couple points of BF% in general dropping on 50g and ~1400-1500 kcal a day, the way (paired with a lot of activity but a lot of sleep and relaxation as well.)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:48 PM

If you do well around 1400 I would stick to that. That should be enough of a deficit without straining your body. Re: muscle catabolism, the biggest thing is making sure you are getting plenty of protein every day, especially if you are underfeeding. It will really help to spare your muscles. After I had my daughter, I lost all of my baby weight via ketogenic paleo myself, so it can definitely be effective, but once I got back to a healthy weight and was ready to start training and exercising a lot more, it just made me feel like crap. I now eat ~50g and it's perfect for me.

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:44 PM

Personally I would save the nuts for maintenance, save maybe a couple per day if eating them makes you happy. Which brings up the subject of happiness: try to relax. Getting a ton of sleep and getting my mind off of my weight or my next workout and onto sleeping or relaxing with friends tends to lean me out (it's hormones, especially belly fat. I struggle a bit with this too.)

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:32 PM

Thanks for ur answer. Good to know my hunger will come back. Feels mental not eating during the day and pigging out on chicken and veg at night. Lol

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I feel so silly wanting to lose weight when I'm perfectly healthy. All I really want is the beach body I've been trying to get for months! The last 2-3% of body fat to go would be amazing. But I don't wanna ruin my body by eating too few calories. (I've never really ate over 1400 previously, though it was usually more 1,200 daily)

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

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on May 18, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I'd hate to lose muscles I've been weight training for ages to get toned. Basically, I don't wanna lose weight but would like a flat stomach and lose the last bit of stubborn fat. (my bfp is 21.4 last time I checked and would like to get it down to 19-20%) any Paleo foods I can eat to get my calories up you could suggest? I hear nuts, oils and butters are good for this.

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:46 PM

And you are DEFINITELY burning more than 800 cal a day. I am smaller than you and my BMR is about 1380- that's what I would burn a day IF I WAS IN A COMA, with just my insides functioning. So yours is a bit higher. + several hundred more from working out and being generally active. You are probably burning 2000 at the very least, I would guess more as a waitress.

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:41 PM

It probably is water weight, and maybe even a little muscle since you are eating so little. Frequent weight training is almost pointless with that large of a calorie deficit- unless you don't mind catabolizing/losing your muscle.

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I suspect water weight loss as well (you'll level off at some point). IMO, I've been able to keep the weight loss going steadily for just over 3 months of Paleo. As for the "never feeling hungry" well that wore off after month 1 to 1 1/2, lol!!! Now, am I starving all the time, nah, I just like my Paleo/Primal foods/meals. Definitley a life changing diet for me (dont plan on eating a SAD diet anytime soon!). Good luck ; )

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:31 PM

not sure you need to keep carbs low as your height and weight seem to indicate your at a healthy level. Most people here go low carb for weight loss, my advice to you would be to stick with safe starches like sweet potatoes. There may be many who will argue about potatoes or rice, but you don't need to be low carb to be healthy, quite the opposite in fact if you are already at a healthy weight.

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:24 PM

That was on average. Some days it's less and some days (like today) is a lot more - 1400. How can I up my cals but keep carbs low? I find it difficult to.

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980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

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on May 18, 2012
at 07:38 PM

Girl, you really need to eat more. Even though that is all you are hungry for, 700 cal and tons of activity, paired with VLC, will put your body through the ringer- in a bad way. Plus your body will get used to it and when you try to raise it back to a normal level, you will pack weight back on. Ketosis can be helpful for some but you know it's not necessary to lose weight, right? Especially for a young, active healthy person. I am 24, 5'3, 115 lbs with a similar activity level to yours and my 'weight loss mode' cals is about 1400, maintenance is 1700 ish though on particularly active days I can take it to 1800 ish without gaining. It is impossible to get adequate nutrients on 700 cal, plus your adrenals can't handle all that stress. Honestly if you have no appetite but want to continue working out so much, I highly suggest you try upping your carbs, try in the 50-100 range to start and see how you feel. This will help boost your appetite too. Unlike many others here, you and I are fortunate enough to have strong, healthy bodies... Don't try to fix what isn't broken, you could do more harm than good. Good luck with your journey!

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:57 PM

So do u think adding more protein and bringing carbs up a little would do me good? (I can definitely do that :) ) I know I'm doing this for primarily vanity, but would love to see my mental health get better as well! :)

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:59 PM

Oh, just read the last part, I'm glad I'm not fighting a losing battle :) well done on losing the bf. that's all I wanna do! Lol but I would like to still be healthy whilst doing it!

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:29 PM

I feel so silly wanting to lose weight when I'm perfectly healthy. All I really want is the beach body I've been trying to get for months! The last 2-3% of body fat to go would be amazing. But I don't wanna ruin my body by eating too few calories. (I've never really ate over 1400 previously, though it was usually more 1,200 daily)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 18, 2012
at 07:46 PM

And you are DEFINITELY burning more than 800 cal a day. I am smaller than you and my BMR is about 1380- that's what I would burn a day IF I WAS IN A COMA, with just my insides functioning. So yours is a bit higher. + several hundred more from working out and being generally active. You are probably burning 2000 at the very least, I would guess more as a waitress.

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:53 PM

And I am slowly seeing what is left of my belly and my last couple points of BF% in general dropping on 50g and ~1400-1500 kcal a day, the way (paired with a lot of activity but a lot of sleep and relaxation as well.)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:48 PM

If you do well around 1400 I would stick to that. That should be enough of a deficit without straining your body. Re: muscle catabolism, the biggest thing is making sure you are getting plenty of protein every day, especially if you are underfeeding. It will really help to spare your muscles. After I had my daughter, I lost all of my baby weight via ketogenic paleo myself, so it can definitely be effective, but once I got back to a healthy weight and was ready to start training and exercising a lot more, it just made me feel like crap. I now eat ~50g and it's perfect for me.

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on May 19, 2012
at 01:06 AM

So, lemme get this straight: you are 5'7 and weigh 128lbs, and you're worried about weight loss? That is very skinny. If you have excess fat, than maybe you should lift heavy, do some calisthenics and pilates and tone up. You're fine, doll, really, you're fine!!!

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 19, 2012
at 01:19 AM

But I agree, she is healthy and fine :)

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 19, 2012
at 01:18 AM

She said she is lifting 3x a week and doing HIIT 3x a week as well. I think she is plenty active in all the right ways- if anything, she could stand to take a couple days off a week since the goal is weight loss.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 19, 2012
at 07:42 AM

I have been doing my exercise routine pretty strictly for a few months with no visual results. (other than I put 5lb of muscle on as my bfp stayed the same but I gained weight) but this was not really reflected in my image. I don't really want to lose weight - but getting my body fat down would be great. That's my goal really. I know I'm slim, it's just vanity lbs left that don't wanna shift.

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A3ff262a2686d79789e09a26013901b3

on May 18, 2012
at 07:17 PM

Could be water weight you've lost. I'm also sure your burning more than 800 cals a day. Just your basal metabolic rate would be much higher. At 5ft7 and 128lbs plus your activitity level, you should be consuming way more calories or that great feeling will be fleeting.

A3ff262a2686d79789e09a26013901b3

(1208)

on May 18, 2012
at 07:31 PM

not sure you need to keep carbs low as your height and weight seem to indicate your at a healthy level. Most people here go low carb for weight loss, my advice to you would be to stick with safe starches like sweet potatoes. There may be many who will argue about potatoes or rice, but you don't need to be low carb to be healthy, quite the opposite in fact if you are already at a healthy weight.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 07:24 PM

That was on average. Some days it's less and some days (like today) is a lot more - 1400. How can I up my cals but keep carbs low? I find it difficult to.

A3ff262a2686d79789e09a26013901b3

(1208)

on May 18, 2012
at 09:57 PM

Here is the link:http://www.meetup.com/ just search your interest (try paleo) and your location.

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:44 PM

Personally I would save the nuts for maintenance, save maybe a couple per day if eating them makes you happy. Which brings up the subject of happiness: try to relax. Getting a ton of sleep and getting my mind off of my weight or my next workout and onto sleeping or relaxing with friends tends to lean me out (it's hormones, especially belly fat. I struggle a bit with this too.)

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:53 PM

I pretty much obsess about my weight, food, diet, exercise etc all the time. I have OCD and slight depression which isn't a good mix with food and exercise. It's how I can eat so little and not really care. But I'd like to stop that habit. I moved away by myself for uni last year and didnt really make any friends at uni that I hang about with cos I don't drink so don't feel very social. That's pretty much where the problem started. It would be great to get my silly wee mind off health and just think of living. I already have a more positive head on me this week. :)

A3ff262a2686d79789e09a26013901b3

(1208)

on May 18, 2012
at 09:54 PM

Don't know where you live, but try looking for a paleo or outdoor or any type of club that interest you for some social interaction and support. I live near Vancouver, Canada and there is a paleo meet-up group here; maybe there is one in your area as well.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 19, 2012
at 07:44 AM

Thank u that's great advice, before looking though I'm doubtful that they have one - I'm from a small town in Scotland that doesn't have much lol. But there might be one close enough I can join :) x

980a08fc871f83f803191278d1a8c3c3

(531)

on May 18, 2012
at 07:41 PM

It probably is water weight, and maybe even a little muscle since you are eating so little. Frequent weight training is almost pointless with that large of a calorie deficit- unless you don't mind catabolizing/losing your muscle.

4d541d381ba26f12aafed7a1d3d02b09

(10)

on May 18, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I'd hate to lose muscles I've been weight training for ages to get toned. Basically, I don't wanna lose weight but would like a flat stomach and lose the last bit of stubborn fat. (my bfp is 21.4 last time I checked and would like to get it down to 19-20%) any Paleo foods I can eat to get my calories up you could suggest? I hear nuts, oils and butters are good for this.

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5bda3bf6f44347b6cd1fec7783518661

on May 21, 2012
at 01:56 AM

Insulin makes the kidneys store salt and in turn the body fluid. When people first start paleo or lower carb and your insulin stays lower and stable the body rapidly starts dumping water. So I vote water weight. My first week I dumped 8 lbs of water weight.

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B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

on May 21, 2012
at 02:03 AM

I lost 10 pounds in my first week of eating paleo/primally!

B04787f664abf9bebc28f71bf7825a3c

(877)

on May 21, 2012
at 02:06 AM

Also, paleo or primal is not about eating low carb -- it's more about eating whole, nutrient dense foods...Just some people USE it to eat low carb.

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