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Is Paleo for me?

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Created March 22, 2011 at 8:53 PM

I'm sick and tired of "dieting." I just want to eat food and lose weight, period. I've always eaten a decent amount of vegetables, and I love lentils. I'm very sad to see they're not paleo.

Anyway - I've dieted before and worked out. My most recent failure was attending group fitness weight classes twice a week with an additional 30-40 minutes of aerobic work 3 times a week. Doing that and eating 1200 - 1400 calories daily netted me a gain of about 15 pounds and then a very very very slow loss (about 5 pounds over 3 months, which is nothing near the 2 pounds/week everyone else seems to be capable of.)

My problem now is that I have moved, have a new job, and a 2 hour daily commute + house chores, leaving me very little time to do anything athletic, especially considering we just got out of winter and there's 3 feet of snow on the ground (was in Florida previous to this when walking around outside was available year-round).

I have a stationary bike I plan on using 3x a week. And I'm trying to keep my calories somewhere around 1500. I know paleo is all about fat and protien, but I can't consume 60 grams of fat daily and feel like I'm being healthy, no matter where its sourced from.

Today I had a protein shake for breakfast, a slice of bacon. I had an enormous amount of greens, peppers, and one chicken thigh for lunch. Dinner is corned beef that's currently in the crock pot. Most likely will continue with days like this one.

My question really is - will this work or is this just another "diet" that won't work if I can't work out for 2-3 hours each day (because that won't happen, I just don't have enough time or facilities to do so).

I'm 26, weigh 198 as of this morning, and I want to be 155. I'm 5'9". Help me get rid of this, please.

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

OSUfanz... thanks for the whole30 link! I'm starting this today. Have been struggling this week (1st week of paleo) and I think this will help me focus a bit better.

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on March 23, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Oranges - hit me up with an email at primalkitchen a+ gmail do+ com and let's talk; being of similar age and "start"/"hopeful finish" weight stats, I might have a few ideas / thoughts to offer. Don't give up!

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on March 23, 2011
at 04:10 PM

In what timescale did you lose 30lbs please Aaron

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on March 23, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Your all worried about calorie count,.... That never factored into my first 30 days. Eat by the rules, eat clean, eat til your satisfied...don't worry about the numbers to start with. I think your mind is all wrapped up in "diets". you said it first off "I'm sick and tired of "dieting." I just want to eat food and lose weight, period" Then do it ;-)

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on March 23, 2011
at 03:01 PM

Nuts and peanuts make me gain, but might be fine for you. At the beginning, it probably won't hurt you to just eat some real food when you get a hankering. After your cravings are more under control, you could focus on habits like that.

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on March 23, 2011
at 02:12 PM

Hey there, thanks for the suggestion - it looks good. My only concern is that having done this for the past 3 days so far, I'm finding it very difficult to eat enough to amass the calorie count that I need without resulting to dairy (half&half in coffee, butter, etc). What do you suggest - what did you do to make up the calories lost from dairy? Can you eat fruit in small quantities? It does not say.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on March 23, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I haven't been hungry the past few days, but I always get these mental "you are bored - eat something" urges at about 10pm, which is really annoying. I've read that you should just eat a spoonful of coconut oil which sounds disgusting. I'd rather eat a spoonful of peanut butter (just peanuts, no other ingredients)

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on March 23, 2011
at 12:25 AM

I dropped 140 five hrs ago and now look like a 50 ur old NFL LB

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on March 22, 2011
at 11:46 PM

i feel the same way- paleo stripped the emotion out of food and thats HUGE. congrats on those stubborn last bits!

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on March 22, 2011
at 11:44 PM

*Do you suggest drinking cream and eating sticks of butter?* actually, yes.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on March 22, 2011
at 11:02 PM

Yay on losing the last 10lbs nnunn! *\o/*

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:54 PM

I have lost 60 pounds and kept it off without forced exercise. I do more not because I can and have energy, but it is more roughhousing with the kids and doing stuff outside, not anything rigorous. Took a few months to lose it, but I did not jump into paleo, I became paleo with constant examination and experimentation. I was paleo before I knew what it was. I gradually moved into it, first by cutting wheat, then grains and then all starches. I am still using dairy.

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:51 PM

1500 is decent range to maintain caloric deficit though which is key to losing weight (even though so far in my experience that whole calories in < calories out = weight loss is GARBAGE). I've eaten SO MUCH FOOD the past two days and struggled to get above 1300, even. Lots of greens (spinach, mustard) and chicken / beef / almonds. I feel fuller than I usually do eating "normal" food, but only hitting low calories. Do you suggest drinking cream and eating sticks of butter? (ew)

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Its really important to me, but I'm getting to the point in my life whre its now or never. i'm only 26 - if I ever lose this weight, I'm just going to gain it all back when I pop out kids or get heavier, which is not what I want.

F3176aa8463fe7f416f4da0d04974c1d

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:39 PM

3 months of super-strict eating and intermittent fasting.

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(919)

on March 22, 2011
at 09:24 PM

How long did the weight loss take to achieve Leigh?

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:05 PM

For the workout side of things, more is not necessarily better. I know I've spent a lot of wasted time "exercising" without signifigant results. For that subject, I would refer you to Mark's Daily Apple, and check out his free "Primal Blueprint Fitness" free pdf book, it could work for you. Workouts can be condensed to 30 minute sessions or less, focus on variety and easy bodyweight stuff that doesn't require a gym or ton of equipment, etc. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/ Also search his blog for other puzzle pieces such as intermittent fasting and easy recipes.

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F9a0b72f38860d7601afd5a45bb53394

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:12 PM

No, you're absolutely right: if you have to exercise 2-3 hours a day just to lose weight, you're not on a good dietary regime. I've heard it said that food is 80 percent of weight loss--not so much how much you eat as what you eat. That's probably true. Because there have been times that I was overweight and doing one hell of a lot of walking (and almost starving, on top of that, not voluntarily either) that I did lose weight, but did not get down to a normal BMI. I was like... are you kidding me? I don't think that "calories in, calories out" thing works the way everybody says it does. They're missing something in the calculation.

I highly, highly recommend you go read the blog Mark's Daily Apple. His advice might just be right up your alley. I have his original book, The Primal Blueprint, and it is awesome.

And yes... yes, you can eat a higher amount of fat and feel like you are being healthy. What you think about something is entirely up to you. It is up to YOU to decide whether to make changes in the name of improving your health. It's not "can't," it's "won't." If it helps, try playing around with your fat intake for a few months--make it 30 percent of calories one month, 50 percent the next month, 60 the next month and see how you feel. I know the experts like to scoff at "anecdotal evidence" (also known as "n=1"), but in the end it's how YOU feel that matters. Just like a person allergic to shellfish is never going to be able to get vitamin D from shrimp, a person who improves their health on 60 percent fat is not going to find the idea that fat causes disease to be terribly relevant to their own life.

I'm the last person who will argue that different people have entirely different dietary requirements. Arboreal theory says primates evolved from tree-canopy-dwelling mammals--what are the foods available high in a tree? Leaves, fruit, and bugs. If someone can't thrive on leaves, fruit, and meat (the modern equivalent of bugs--and bugs are fatty, by the way), something's broken in their system, period. But that doesn't mean people's various health issues don't come into play. So do what works for you. "What works" meaning "don't have to work yourself to death to lose fat" and "lab numbers look awesome" and "sleeping well, thinking well, and functioning well." That kind of thing.

P.S. 1500 calories a day is semi-starvation. If you're going to eat that little calorie you need to be eating more fat, and preferably of animal origin. You can't get enough nutrition from grains to get your energy that way at 1500 calories. Not gonna happen. And at least with the fat intake you won't be as hungry.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on March 22, 2011
at 11:44 PM

*Do you suggest drinking cream and eating sticks of butter?* actually, yes.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on March 22, 2011
at 10:51 PM

1500 is decent range to maintain caloric deficit though which is key to losing weight (even though so far in my experience that whole calories in < calories out = weight loss is GARBAGE). I've eaten SO MUCH FOOD the past two days and struggled to get above 1300, even. Lots of greens (spinach, mustard) and chicken / beef / almonds. I feel fuller than I usually do eating "normal" food, but only hitting low calories. Do you suggest drinking cream and eating sticks of butter? (ew)

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:21 PM

"I know paleo is all about fat and protien, but I can't consume 60 grams of fat daily and feel like I'm being healthy, no matter where its sourced from."

Before you try Paleo and just simply go through the motions -- you should try to understand why Paleo might work and other approaches might not. Doing something without understanding is a recipe for disaster and disappointment.

If I were you, I would do a lot of reading before trying Paleo.

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:44 PM

I am on Paleo day 63 - I have lost 28 lbs and I have not yet started exercising. Paleo becomes 2nd nature quickly, but it doesn't sound like you are ready for the mental commitment yet.

I started with the whole9 30 day challenge http://whole9life.com/2010/12/whole30-2011/

It's simple, laid out, and straight forward. I used to say 10 yrs ago when my son was diagnosed with autism I wish that someone had written a manual for bewildered parents that said "Start here, DO this,..." Thats what I felt that I was reading when I read the 30 day challenge,..more than any other paleo/primal website or book I looked at,..it was the most clear and easy for a newbie like me to follow with rules and guidelines clearly spelled out. 30 days is a blink of your eye in the grand scheme of things - give it a try when your ready.

Good Luck!

Ab566019baa884ec9e3327c108586ff8

(1055)

on March 23, 2011
at 03:42 PM

Your all worried about calorie count,.... That never factored into my first 30 days. Eat by the rules, eat clean, eat til your satisfied...don't worry about the numbers to start with. I think your mind is all wrapped up in "diets". you said it first off "I'm sick and tired of "dieting." I just want to eat food and lose weight, period" Then do it ;-)

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on March 23, 2011
at 02:12 PM

Hey there, thanks for the suggestion - it looks good. My only concern is that having done this for the past 3 days so far, I'm finding it very difficult to eat enough to amass the calorie count that I need without resulting to dairy (half&half in coffee, butter, etc). What do you suggest - what did you do to make up the calories lost from dairy? Can you eat fruit in small quantities? It does not say.

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

OSUfanz... thanks for the whole30 link! I'm starting this today. Have been struggling this week (1st week of paleo) and I think this will help me focus a bit better.

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:02 PM

Paleo is a very intelligent, well thought out take on diet and nutrition. It works for many people who have had no luck on any other diet. It's how I choose to eat based on the information I have available to me (which is a significant amount mind you). However, I'm not willing to say it's for you. That's your call. Try it out for 30 days. If you don't look, feel or perform better, perhaps it's not for you. But making the decision for yourself is of infinite importance. Own your diet! Own your health! Is it for you? You tell me.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on March 22, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Its really important to me, but I'm getting to the point in my life whre its now or never. i'm only 26 - if I ever lose this weight, I'm just going to gain it all back when I pop out kids or get heavier, which is not what I want.

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:52 PM

I think if you have a lot of weight to lose you are insulin resistant, and you are going to need to go low-carb as well as paleo. You must learn to embrace fat, especially saturated fat. It is the cornerstone of health. And stop restricting your calories. If you are hungry, your body is telling you you need nutrition.

I recommend you pick up Gary Taubes' latest book, Why we get Fat. It's easy to read, full of references, and will explain about weight loss, health and dietary fat and exercise.

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(18706)

on March 23, 2011
at 03:01 PM

Nuts and peanuts make me gain, but might be fine for you. At the beginning, it probably won't hurt you to just eat some real food when you get a hankering. After your cravings are more under control, you could focus on habits like that.

9aa2a816c61170cc0183a68be0386ba5

(1702)

on March 23, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I haven't been hungry the past few days, but I always get these mental "you are bored - eat something" urges at about 10pm, which is really annoying. I've read that you should just eat a spoonful of coconut oil which sounds disgusting. I'd rather eat a spoonful of peanut butter (just peanuts, no other ingredients)

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(1392)

on March 22, 2011
at 09:09 PM

Losing weight on Paleo CAN be done without exercise. I lost (and have kept off) more than 50 pounds by just eating strictly Paleo, which also ended my years of yo-yo dieting because it turned into a permanent lifestyle. (Coming from a former carb-addict, that's saying something!) It can be done! While exercising is good and all, watching your food is really the most important. You can do it! Good luck!

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(919)

on March 22, 2011
at 09:24 PM

How long did the weight loss take to achieve Leigh?

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(1548)

on March 22, 2011
at 10:54 PM

I have lost 60 pounds and kept it off without forced exercise. I do more not because I can and have energy, but it is more roughhousing with the kids and doing stuff outside, not anything rigorous. Took a few months to lose it, but I did not jump into paleo, I became paleo with constant examination and experimentation. I was paleo before I knew what it was. I gradually moved into it, first by cutting wheat, then grains and then all starches. I am still using dairy.

F3176aa8463fe7f416f4da0d04974c1d

(1392)

on March 22, 2011
at 09:39 PM

3 months of super-strict eating and intermittent fasting.

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:26 PM

Paleo has been absolutely life changing for me. Not because I lost a huge amount of weight - I didn't have too much to lose (but I did shed those pesky last 10 pounds), but because I finally don't have to think and obsess about food. I just eat real food three times a day and I'm not hungry. IT IS AMAZING!!! It did take awhile to adjust (about a month and half for me).

Also find some heavy things and lift them instead of going on your bike :)

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on March 22, 2011
at 11:46 PM

i feel the same way- paleo stripped the emotion out of food and thats HUGE. congrats on those stubborn last bits!

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(18701)

on March 22, 2011
at 11:02 PM

Yay on losing the last 10lbs nnunn! *\o/*

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:55 PM

Read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. It has changed my outlook on food and the role of exercise completely. I also second the recommendation to read all the intro stuff over at Mark's Daily Apple.

It is crucial to understand the science behind this stuff if you are going to overcome the way we've been taught to think about "dieting" and exercise for so many years.

Best of luck!!

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on March 22, 2011
at 10:04 PM

My experience:

Except for the occasional long run (no more than 2 a month) I rarely work out more than 10 minutes a day / 3-5 days a week. I've lost 30lbs. I'm much leaner than ever before and I've added quite a bit of tone, strength and endurance compared to a year ago.

I'd say what you're looking for is possible.

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on March 23, 2011
at 04:10 PM

In what timescale did you lose 30lbs please Aaron

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:51 PM

everything already stated is correct in my opinion. If you stick with eggs, meat, veggies, no grains or sugars or processed, you will lose weight, and feel fuller and much healthier in general. get over the cardio, lift weights and sprint a few times per week instead. and you probably are shorting your calories a little. it really is this simple.

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on March 22, 2011
at 09:36 PM

Keep your head up. Go for it, all out, for 30 days.

Come back and tell us how it all went.

My bet is that you're going to be very happy with things and you'll want to keep it going forever.

Best of luck to you!!

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