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I LOVE fruit! But is it bad for my weight loss?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 17, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I LOVE LoVE fruit. It is my anaolute favorite food, more so than any "junk food" out there. I was previously eating about six servings of fruit per day (plus cereal, sandwiches, popcorn, cookie or icecreamy desserts), and was pretty high carb. I keep seein that a lot of people seem to encourage VLC for weight loss. Well, I've got everything under control, but it is soooo hard for me to give up my fruit. In my Whole30, I went from none to one to now two per day without really realizing it. I just love my fruit and I feel sad and deprived without it. Seriously- eventhough I now enjoy red meat and fat much more freely, the thing I miss the most about my SAD is my fruit.

And, I'm scared to eat too much now. I feel like if the goal is to eat VLC then that can't be too much fruit. I'm tracking cals and macros and have never been over 100g in a day (usually 75-80). I also have a history of weight problems and tracking makes me obsessive, but I feel like there is no way to manage it well if I don't. I have not touched a single sweet potato, rice, or potato. I only eat apples, berries, or the occasional banana. My fruit life is boring now.

I am a 25 yo female at 5'7" and 165 pounds. I'd like to get down to 150. Do you think I need to limit fruit more? It's going to be menatally hard and depressing to do that and that's why I struggle.

Thanks.

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on April 26, 2013
at 06:04 AM

LOL good one seamaster.

901d843c6a01089575ef1751a9e6e9fd

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on April 25, 2013
at 09:36 AM

"Fat turns into fat more easily than sugar"? No it doesn't.

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on April 25, 2013
at 02:50 AM

I only lost the weight I wanted to lose when I gave up eating fruit. That's adjusting for calories (I tracked obsessively for a while) and with no other changes to diet or lifestyle.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on April 25, 2013
at 02:18 AM

Fat turns into fat more easily than sugar...so what exactly are you implying?

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

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on April 19, 2013
at 02:15 AM

"But if you're trying to lose weight, you would have to avoid some of the more sugary fruits." - i wish people would stop saying stuff like this, with absolutely no good science behind it. but what can i do?

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:39 PM

MN_John, have you recently read The Gary and been enlightened? "If you eat nothing but potatoes you're putting on fat while loosing muscle, not a healthy way to lose weight." - you don't have a clue what you're talking about. it's okay, you can always learn more.

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on April 18, 2013
at 06:01 PM

I actually used to binge on nuts, and I found that by supplementing with fish oil every day, I have lost the desire to binge. Omega 3 increases dopamine receptors in the brain (some individuals just have less for some reason, making them more likely to binge and be overweight), helping the brain to know when it is full because, of course, bingeing is most often about brain hunger than stomach hunger! Hope this helps!

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:44 PM

Thanks! I've been off salad dressing for about 3 years. I use olive oil, lemon juice, and a spice mix instead of creamy dressings! I like apples, and they don't seem to trigger the same sugar response as berries. I try to eat one a day.

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:42 PM

Thanks! Those are typically what I eat because the GI is lower. However, they make me binge on fruit unlike any other fruit. I can usually eat one apple and be done, but with berries, it is like nuts for some people- I can eat until the package is empty. I don't know why this is.

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:03 PM

Sorry missed that.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:02 PM

This article might change your mind: http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:29 AM

The right answer is to eat in a way that is sustainable for you, as well as being healthy. If you are not happy giving up fruit, why would you even consider doing it, seeing as there is nothing inherently unhealthy with a moderate fruit consumption?

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:26 AM

This is one of the things that drives me nuts about Paleo, the idea that fruit should be avoided. Fruits are whole foods loaded with phytonutrients and vitamins and there is no reason in the world you shouldn't eat a couple every day.

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:18 AM

no, you're wrong.

D112d09497fca43ce4e68b2300942eca

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:25 AM

This is a paleo diet site and you're talking about eating nothing but potatoes or high carbs? We should be eating a nutrient rich diet high in fat, protein, vegetables. Carbs turn to sugar, which drives excess insulin, insulin puts on fat. If you eat nothing but potatoes you're putting on fat while loosing muscle, not a healthy way to lose weight. If you go low calorie / moderate to high carb you will lose weight but you'll feel hungry all the time and you will crave food all the time. Much better to do a more balanced approach of good nutrition and low carbs.

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:37 AM

its a myth that diets high in carbs are bad for weight loss

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 17, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Why do you say eliminate while others say it won't be a problem? What's the right answer?

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 17, 2013
at 11:38 PM

If you read that closely, you will see that I use the word "previously," as in I used to eat all those. I no longer do, and if you continue to read, I say that I now eat "two" fruits, instead of six. I dropped all that bad stuff. Thanks.

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on April 17, 2013
at 10:07 PM

Tell that to the people eating nothing but potatoes and losing weight

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on April 17, 2013
at 08:05 PM

I would say watch your high sugar fruits like bananas. Go nuts on apples and berries. We eat bananas, but limited to workout days for post workout recovery. I eat tons of fruit. I'm no weight loss testimonial but it is coming off slowly. I just don't worry about it and focus on just eating real unprocessed foods. I know some people who precisely weight and measure and what not... that's too much stress!

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at 04:36 PM

Boom...fruit=yum

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Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

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on April 17, 2013
at 04:21 PM

the goal is not to eat VLC, two pieces of fruit per day is so far from excessive it's not even funny, and fruit is absolutely compatible with weight loss.

86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

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on April 17, 2013
at 04:36 PM

Boom...fruit=yum

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A3a4696c919e916ec971691559e9c942

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on April 17, 2013
at 03:46 PM

Are you still losing weight eating fruit? No need to cut it if you are still meeting your goals eating it. If you are not losing try eliminating it and see what happens.

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0334d143dae3bb0f30169e6ef31e3a4d

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on April 25, 2013
at 01:44 AM

It's simple, sugar turns into fat faster than anything I believe. I thought that was a given. My bad.

As for the other comments. Some people do lose weight just eating potatoes but that isn't always the case. They might be working out more and maybe their metabolism is faster than normal. But for most people whose metabolism isn't all that cooperative, it won't work at all.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on April 25, 2013
at 02:18 AM

Fat turns into fat more easily than sugar...so what exactly are you implying?

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12672)

on April 26, 2013
at 06:04 AM

LOL good one seamaster.

901d843c6a01089575ef1751a9e6e9fd

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on April 25, 2013
at 09:36 AM

"Fat turns into fat more easily than sugar"? No it doesn't.

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on April 17, 2013
at 09:30 PM

I've heard that paleolithic fruit is far different from today's fruit. Serious fruit cultivation (orchards) began around 2,000 years ago, and that since then, today's fruit has been hybridized to be the sweetest varieties, like barlett pears, mandarin oranges, bing cherries, meyer lemons, etc. Much sweeter than paleolithic times. Also, during paleolithic times, fruit was a one-month-per-year type of dessert, often just before a food shortage (due to winter).

I only consume blackberries, raspberries, avocadoes and tomatoes. I'll often squeeze a lemon into my cooking. These fruits are low carb and still quite paleolithic.

That satifies my fruit desire without any consequences to my weight.

~ J

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:02 PM

This article might change your mind: http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit/

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:07 AM

If fruits and veggies are the majority of what you eat in the day, then you should be fine and there should be no limit. Apples are a great snack as they have healthy sugar and digestible fiber.

Word of advice, if you use salad dressing at all, make sure you watch how much you use as THAT can contribute to unaware calories. You can probably make your own salad dressing at home in a healthy way though, just search online.

Just make sure you get the essentials from your fruit and veggies intake of good fat, good carbs, fiber, and protein and you will be good to go.

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:44 PM

Thanks! I've been off salad dressing for about 3 years. I use olive oil, lemon juice, and a spice mix instead of creamy dressings! I like apples, and they don't seem to trigger the same sugar response as berries. I try to eat one a day.

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Bfd70bb38267fcc2d762063d691fa226

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:41 AM

If you are worried about the carb content of the fruit, you might want to go for strawberries, raspberries, or blackberries. These fruits are much lower in carbs than say apples or bananas because they have a high fiber content. After subtracting the fiber from total carbs, it is still quite low compared to the cereals and ice creams that you were eating before.

Bfd70bb38267fcc2d762063d691fa226

(723)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:01 PM

I actually used to binge on nuts, and I found that by supplementing with fish oil every day, I have lost the desire to binge. Omega 3 increases dopamine receptors in the brain (some individuals just have less for some reason, making them more likely to binge and be overweight), helping the brain to know when it is full because, of course, bingeing is most often about brain hunger than stomach hunger! Hope this helps!

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

(125)

on April 18, 2013
at 02:42 PM

Thanks! Those are typically what I eat because the GI is lower. However, they make me binge on fruit unlike any other fruit. I can usually eat one apple and be done, but with berries, it is like nuts for some people- I can eat until the package is empty. I don't know why this is.

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on April 17, 2013
at 08:37 PM

Some others have given their advice already, I will share some more thoughts. Fructose is pretty condemned for some (not for others for sure) in the Paleo sphere and VLC circles, but we have to keep into account that the natural amount in a service is usually small and natural occurring, so maybe the issue is overrated.

I'm not very into human evolution and history but I assume that there would be times where our ancestors would have faced famine (at least pretty sure they couldn't get a feast of food by giving a credit card like we can nowadays) and I find it hard to believe that they could be presented a tree full of fruit and yet they'd choose to starve because it had fructose... no way.

So it seems that eating fruit may be a natural thing for us to do, but as everything, we must be cautions on not overdoing it. We now know that most fruits are loaded with lots of vitamins and antioxidants, good thing. But we also know that fructose is directly metabolised at liver level and does not go the same way other carbohydrates do, that's why it does not cause an insulin peak, something some may see as a good thing. For diabetics, It may be, but there's a drawback: that process in the liver is known to enhance triglyceride production and transport via the LDL carrying particles (sorry I'm not expert but more or less seems to be this way, maybe someone can correct me or explain it in a better way).

The key point here is that too much fructose + too many fats (either good or bad) can be a problem if that exceeds your daily needs and you start gaining weight. People nowadays eat fruit for healthy habits, yet they still eat some processed food and lot of sodas. That may be then too much fructose really, and with the fats added it may trigger the process to high cholesterol levels, weight gain, inflammation, etc...

But if you're eating clean and measure your calories, and try to isolate your fruit from the most fat dense meals... IMHO I think you have nothing to fear.

But that is just my current view, not really so sure, I may be missing lots of things here... some say fruit is perfectly OK and desirable, some say not needed at all, some others that it only brings benefit if seasonal, if not avoid... I wonder where's the real truth in all this.

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on April 17, 2013
at 05:22 PM

If you want to lose weight, drop your daily calories a little. I believe in calories in vs calories out.

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on April 19, 2013
at 01:49 AM

Well, fruits aren't bad for you at all. But if you're trying to lose weight, you would have to avoid some of the more sugary fruits. Here is a list of all of them.

Fruits with Medium-High Sugar Content

-Plums -Oranges -Kiwi -Pears -Pineapple

Fruits with Highest Sugar Content

-Tangerines -Cherries -Grapes -Pomegranates -Mangoes -Figs -Bananas -Dried fruit (raisins, dried apricots, prunes)

http://cooklikeacaveman.com/paleo-cookbook-review/

You can find recipes for those lower sugar fruits that you can use when you're doing Paleo.

Good luck!

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on April 19, 2013
at 02:15 AM

"But if you're trying to lose weight, you would have to avoid some of the more sugary fruits." - i wish people would stop saying stuff like this, with absolutely no good science behind it. but what can i do?

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on April 25, 2013
at 02:50 AM

I only lost the weight I wanted to lose when I gave up eating fruit. That's adjusting for calories (I tracked obsessively for a while) and with no other changes to diet or lifestyle.

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on April 17, 2013
at 11:31 PM

I would say drop all of the cereal, sandwiches, popcorn, cookie or icecreamy desserts and keep the fruit. Among all of those things, fruit is the least offender. Six servings per day is a lot but I wouldn't worry too much about it, at least fruit is nutritious. One serving of junk food (i.e. cookies) is too much.

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

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on April 17, 2013
at 11:38 PM

If you read that closely, you will see that I use the word "previously," as in I used to eat all those. I no longer do, and if you continue to read, I say that I now eat "two" fruits, instead of six. I dropped all that bad stuff. Thanks.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:03 PM

Sorry missed that.

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on April 17, 2013
at 03:56 PM

Yes! I would eliminate all the obviously bad/non-Paleo (if that's what you're doing) stuff first, and see what happens. IF you are eating clean and still not losing, cut the fruit and see if that helps. It's different for everyone. I love fruit and it's never interfered with weight loss for me, personally.

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on April 18, 2013
at 09:29 AM

The right answer is to eat in a way that is sustainable for you, as well as being healthy. If you are not happy giving up fruit, why would you even consider doing it, seeing as there is nothing inherently unhealthy with a moderate fruit consumption?

Cceda01c6e1aefb1ca7f1aa5653cba2a

(125)

on April 17, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Why do you say eliminate while others say it won't be a problem? What's the right answer?

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D112d09497fca43ce4e68b2300942eca

on April 17, 2013
at 07:18 PM

To loose weight on a Paleo diet you have to control your carbs, "carbohydrate drives insulin drives fat". Some fruit is high in carbohydrates, some is relatively low. Stick to 1 or 2 servings of berries or cantaloupe and you'll be fine (assuming you've eliminated most other carbs). If you want to loose weight slowly shoot for around 80-100 grams of carbs per day (try to avoid sugars completely), if you want to loose faster you'll need to go in to ketosis (which means you're burning fat for energy rather than glucose), which for most people means lower than 10-80 grams of carbs per day (it varies by person, weight, exercise, metabolism. The only way to know for sure is to test with ketostiks).

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:37 AM

its a myth that diets high in carbs are bad for weight loss

2e6e673ce3eb647407d260d4d57a731b

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:18 AM

no, you're wrong.

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on April 17, 2013
at 10:07 PM

Tell that to the people eating nothing but potatoes and losing weight

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:39 PM

MN_John, have you recently read The Gary and been enlightened? "If you eat nothing but potatoes you're putting on fat while loosing muscle, not a healthy way to lose weight." - you don't have a clue what you're talking about. it's okay, you can always learn more.

D112d09497fca43ce4e68b2300942eca

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:25 AM

This is a paleo diet site and you're talking about eating nothing but potatoes or high carbs? We should be eating a nutrient rich diet high in fat, protein, vegetables. Carbs turn to sugar, which drives excess insulin, insulin puts on fat. If you eat nothing but potatoes you're putting on fat while loosing muscle, not a healthy way to lose weight. If you go low calorie / moderate to high carb you will lose weight but you'll feel hungry all the time and you will crave food all the time. Much better to do a more balanced approach of good nutrition and low carbs.

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