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From Weight Watchers to Paleo

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Created February 28, 2012 at 7:36 PM

I just started eating Paleo.Before deciding to eat Paleo, I joined weight watchers which has helped me lose 30lbs. Even though I was eating better than I was before, I wanted to make a complete health change. I workout 3 times a week for an hour with a personal trainer and then 45 min of cardio on the inbetween days. I need to lose around 50lbs to be at my ultimate goal. I've cut all grains, dairy and legumes out of my diet. There are a couple of things that I am confused about:

1.Do I need to calorie count with this diet? If so, what would be a good amount fo calories for me to reach my goal. (I'm 5'10'' and weigh 204)

2.Can you actually eat too much bacon? From dieting in the past I have in ingrained in my head that bacon is horrible. I'm still getting used to it.

3.The meat, veggies an pretty much anything I eat needs to be organic right? I can't go to the store and buy regualr ground turkey, right? What are the specifics that need to be met.

Also, I drink the Mark Sisson primal blueprint fuel protien powder after I workout.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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on February 29, 2012
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on February 28, 2012
at 08:20 PM

The refers to all the things that do or may need attention before that much activity. You don't have a lot of lose, so you have a head start. I would want to know trigs, insulin, sex hormones and thyroid. The low carb part of Primal is intended to get your fat-burning going. You know when insulin and trigs are optimal. Don't try to sweat it off or IF until you know you are ready.

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on February 28, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thank you for answering so fast! I'm a little confused to what you mean by blood chemestry?

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on February 28, 2012
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A lot of people can lose weight on paleo without weighing, measuring, or counting anything; I like to take the path of least resistance and recommend trying that way first. If you plateau, then I'd play with tracking calories and/or macronutrient ratios (your fat, protein & carbs). Focus first on just eating real food; do the best you can on your budget, but don't stress if you can't get all organic or pastured products. As for bacon, I ate quite a bit of it when I was starting out- it's not an ideal protein source, but it's damn tasty and it helped to make paleo appealing. You're probably giving up a lot of foods you enjoyed, so if you love bacon, I'd keep eating it if it helps keep you on track. I don't know how much is too much, but my consumption has naturally fallen off a bit over the last few months, and I've been having more beef with my breakfasts instead. Here's some info about bacon- http://whole9life.com/2011/05/the-bacon-bummer/ Good luck to you! :)

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on February 28, 2012
at 08:56 PM

I would go more by the mirror than the scale. I don't think Paleo is a quick fix plan but if you eat lots of good meat (including high quality bacon), veggies, some fruit and some nuts I believe you weight (read body composition) will get to where it should be. This might take a few months (you probably didn't gain the weight over a couple of months so there is no reason to think it will come off in a couple of months) but it will be a more healthy way of going about it.

1) No, I don't think you need to calorie count. I don't even count grams of carbs or anything like that. I just make sure I eat meat, veggies, some fruit and nuts along with good fats like avocado and coconut. If am am going to work out more I tend to add in some yams or sweet potatoes or maybe more veggies.

2) I am sure you can eat too much bacon but I bet it would be hard. You'll crave a variety of meats so you'll probably end up mixing it up (steak and eggs = awesome).

3) You should shoot for organic but more specifically grass fed red meats and pasture raised everything. This is probably the hardest part of the whole thing. However, don't kill yourself trying to make sure that 100% of your meat is locally sourced, pasture raised on organic grass and then killed humanely. This is the goal but you will still attain the vast majority of the benefits even if you can't get there all the time. Fruit and veggies should also be organic and local if possible but that is not always the case.

I don't take any protein powder of any kind. I like Mark's Sisson's writings and read his blog but I don't see any reason to take protein powder. I just make sure I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full.

I think "45 minutes of cardio" sounds like no fun at all. I would shoot more for getting out and doing something fun that requires you to move such as walking, cycling, swimming, bowling, you name it. I've been on that hamster wheel before and found it to be brain numbing. You may find it helpful to have something scheduled like that but hopefully you can find a way to convert it to having fun outside (it doesn't necessarily have to be outside but that is more fun).

One suggestion is to take pictures of yourself in front of the mirror now and then take new ones every few days for a few months so you can see the transition. It is hard to keep track of how you look just by looking in the mirror. You will always see yourself through the lens of your self judgement. You will probably feel silly doing it and even sillier if someone else sees them but that's okay.

As far as the blood work goes, it is important to have your cholesterol, nutrient and hormone levels checked just to make sure that everything is staying where it should be or improving. For example, I was vitamin D deficient so I try to get outside more and I take vitamin D supplements. Once you have been on Paleo for a few weeks (maybe 2 to 3 months) you should get your blood work done again and make sure you are trending in the right direction.

Please remember that this is not a quick fix way to go. It will take time to get you to your normal. Make sure you are judging your progress on your normal. Your body is different than everyone else's so only you really know if you are getting to your goal. I don't think the scale is not a good way to measure that goal.

Good luck.

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on February 29, 2012
at 03:38 AM

Hi Jennifer,

Here is some good basic info that answers most of the questions in your post:

http://naturalbias.com/why-calorie-counting-is-a-bad-way-to-lose-weight/

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on February 28, 2012
at 08:45 PM

read up on the resources at whole9life.com as mentioend above. They have a FANTASTIC 30 day program that encourages you not to obsess over losing weight, measuring, or eating organic, but making smart whole food choices. I agree with the comment above about bacon. If its helping you transition then GREAT. But it's not the best protein you can find. the whole9life bacon writeup is great...its hard to find quality bacon so ultimately you'll limit this but i think most people who subscribe to this type of diet would agree they'd rather see you eat bacon and eggs for breakfast that a bad carb loaded bagel or muffin full of sugary toppings.

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on February 28, 2012
at 07:51 PM

  1. No. Focus on your blood chemistry by doing Primal right.

  2. Bacon is fine. If you eat some for breakfast and you are still full at 2pm and you skipped lunch, you had too much.

  3. The more organic and "Paleo/Primal" the better. Do your best.

My first reaction is that you are ruining your diet changes with those workouts. Ease up! Get your blood chemistry right first.

I doubt your trainer is doing you any good if they are working you this hard.

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on February 28, 2012
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The refers to all the things that do or may need attention before that much activity. You don't have a lot of lose, so you have a head start. I would want to know trigs, insulin, sex hormones and thyroid. The low carb part of Primal is intended to get your fat-burning going. You know when insulin and trigs are optimal. Don't try to sweat it off or IF until you know you are ready.

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on February 28, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thank you for answering so fast! I'm a little confused to what you mean by blood chemestry?

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on February 28, 2012
at 10:26 PM

Hi there,

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on February 29, 2012
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on February 28, 2012
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Quite the cardio, you'll thank yourself later.Focus on weight lifting and walking/hiking.

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on February 28, 2012
at 08:08 PM

Have you read the Primal Blueprint? If not I think that would be a great place to start. Basically for losing weight at a moderate pace counting carbs rather than calories is the best what to go about it. When you limit carbs, no you should not have to count calories. Recommendations (and my own experience) would say 50-100g of carbs/day should help you lose weight without having to rely on calorie counts. Just eat till satiated and don't eat again till hungry.

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