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Do you think that going Paleo will be the right idea for me? Please read!

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Created February 07, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Okay, before any of you say anything, please read this thoroughly. I'm a 17 year old female, 5'4 about 140 pounds. I've battled with my appearance throughout my whole life and since that has gotten better, it's been my weight for the past 2 years. I LOVE exercising and do it probably 4 or more days a week, but its not helping me lose weight because I'm constantly binging and being depressed about it. This week I haven't worked out once, because of feeling depressed and eating so much bad stuff. I want to drop about 20 pounds back to the weight I had before I began eating gross, binging, feeling disgusted with myself. I've read some stories about girls that actually gain weight instead of lose, and I really do not want that. I'll do anything to lose the weight at this point. I'd even be willing to cut out all fruit / nuts from my diet. Help please!

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on February 08, 2012
at 04:27 PM

@JeezLoise, deranged is the right word. When I was in the throes of binge eating, any sensation from my gut was interpreted as "hunger" when in fact it was probably a "please stop the insanity" signal.

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on February 08, 2012
at 02:25 PM

The only thing I think she's a little off-base about is the idea of "trusting your hunger." While this might be viable for some people, the severely metabolically deranged are unlikely to have healthy hunger signaling. She is very on-point when it comes to the psychology though.

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on February 08, 2012
at 07:29 AM

I would like an example of a person who wouldn't be better off being paleo?

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at 04:35 AM

That is awesome your parents are on board. I think a really important step might be to get rid of your bathroom scale, and go by how your clothes fit on your body. For some reason we attach so much meaning and emotion to that number which tells us almost nothing about our health. A few people do gain, but they are most likely gaining muscle during the transition phase to losing fat (which will go faster with the muscles), are suffering from severe hormonal disturbances, or recovering from a self-induced starvation state from other diets. I think you'll like the way you feel and look.

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at 03:00 AM

Agree on Roth's books, read them when I went to an eating disorder support group, they were really good. Everyone that read them found some benefit and/or way to relate.

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at 01:07 AM

I upvoted all of your comments, and I don't even know why

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at 12:53 AM

It's good of you to share your insights with others, Charlotte. I have the same perceptions as you about my (past) binge eating and grains although, for me, wheat seems to be the only real problem.

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at 12:50 AM

Okay, fine, I didn't down-vote or anything I just felt insulted. :-))

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at 12:00 AM

Yeah, I agree with you. I apologize for my inaccuracies.

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at 11:59 PM

You are right. I rescind what I said.

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:58 PM

So you really meant "some" people on the board--which tends to be newer people who hope that will be so, or people who have accidentally become just a tad dogmatic. I believe most people on PH think paleo is a great way to eat healthy and that's all.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Oh, so you meant SOME people on this board--which is correct.

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at 11:48 PM

No, I did read them. I mean in other posts I've authored or seen.

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"People on this board think that the paleo diet will cure anything." I can only assume you didn't read the other 3 answers?

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My parents are will to toss the junk, and when there is no junk, believe me I had full control of myself! I just want to make sure I most likely wouldn't gain weight, I've seen afew horror stories from people about it!

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on February 07, 2012
at 09:50 PM

I have also struggled with binge eating in the past. While a paleo lifestyle may address the bulk of the biological binge triggers (blood sugar irregularity, carbohydrate addiction, depression/anxiety), it cannot always heal the psychological issues that are driving you to overeat.

I recommend checking out some of Geneen Roth's books. While I don't always agree with everything she says, she has an amazing understanding of binge eating disorder and the guilt/self-hatred cycle it perpetuates. "Women, Food, and God" is particularly amazing, but she has many publications that might suit your needs.

Doing this sort of psychological work is indeed much more challenging that just changing your diet, but you will find it significantly more rewarding. Binging is a symptom of a bigger problem. Don't just put a bandaid on your wound. Heal it.

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on February 08, 2012
at 04:27 PM

@JeezLoise, deranged is the right word. When I was in the throes of binge eating, any sensation from my gut was interpreted as "hunger" when in fact it was probably a "please stop the insanity" signal.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on February 08, 2012
at 03:00 AM

Agree on Roth's books, read them when I went to an eating disorder support group, they were really good. Everyone that read them found some benefit and/or way to relate.

1dcfcebc5f36408d121f124a78292d42

(1295)

on February 08, 2012
at 02:25 PM

The only thing I think she's a little off-base about is the idea of "trusting your hunger." While this might be viable for some people, the severely metabolically deranged are unlikely to have healthy hunger signaling. She is very on-point when it comes to the psychology though.

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on February 07, 2012
at 10:20 PM

i would just caution you about starting paleo with the sole goal of losing weight. i know it's tempting, when there are so many positive reports of weight loss as a pleasant effect of an overall much healthier lifestyle, however, there are some (like me) who do not lose simply by going paleo. i still stick with this lifestyle because of the overall positive benefits to health and my mindset. for a long time, i had a very unhealthy, guilt-ridden relationship with food and this has gotten infinitely better with paleo. if you don't lose, will you get endlessly frustrated and dive into destructive eating patterns and will you dump paleo? are you willing to experiment to figure out what's optimal FOR YOU? no doubt, this will make your body much much happier, but be sure to consider that you'll need to work on issues of the mind probably more than on diet.

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on February 07, 2012
at 09:39 PM

Hi, Kristen!

I'm assuming you still live at home. How much control do you have of what food is available for your meals? Will there be challenges if you are wanting to eat lots of meat and eggs?

Just changing to paleo won't automatically be the solution for stopping your binging. That must be said. If you are using food as the turn-to comfort resource when you are upset/bored/depressed, then you will still find yourself doing that.

Whether you carry through with paleo/ancestral eating or not, you need to find other comfort mechanisms and reduce the importance of food to more like fuel and casual recreation. Does that make sense?

If you want to test paleo, that's a great idea. Buy or ask your parents to buy whole meat and lots of produce and give it a test drive. You may then have other questions or concerns and we'd love to hear from you again. But, again, think about what food means to you in general and don't let it be all-important. Being well-rested and having methods to deal with strong emotions are just as important as food--perhaps even more so.

Good luck!

B0337555b1c275fc4117b4aa49c06926

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on February 07, 2012
at 09:43 PM

My parents are will to toss the junk, and when there is no junk, believe me I had full control of myself! I just want to make sure I most likely wouldn't gain weight, I've seen afew horror stories from people about it!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on February 08, 2012
at 04:35 AM

That is awesome your parents are on board. I think a really important step might be to get rid of your bathroom scale, and go by how your clothes fit on your body. For some reason we attach so much meaning and emotion to that number which tells us almost nothing about our health. A few people do gain, but they are most likely gaining muscle during the transition phase to losing fat (which will go faster with the muscles), are suffering from severe hormonal disturbances, or recovering from a self-induced starvation state from other diets. I think you'll like the way you feel and look.

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:19 PM

Disordered eating and body image problems are complex issues that are seriously unlikely to resolve solely due to a change in diet. I am not saying it is impossible, but it is seriously unlikely. The human mind is extremely complex and needs to be tackled from multiple angles.

People on this board think that the paleo diet will cure anything. I've had severe mental illness for most of my life, and eating paleo has done little if anything to help with it.

I am not trying to discourage you. It could be possible that eating paleo could exert its effect on a longer term basis, but that remains to be seen for me at least. I am trying to encourage you to try different avenues in addition to eating paleo. Have you thought about seeing a psychotherapist about binge eating and body image issues? Everyone deserves the peace of mind that comes from self acceptance and freedom from the binge eating demon.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Oh, so you meant SOME people on this board--which is correct.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 08, 2012
at 12:50 AM

Okay, fine, I didn't down-vote or anything I just felt insulted. :-))

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 07, 2012
at 11:58 PM

So you really meant "some" people on the board--which tends to be newer people who hope that will be so, or people who have accidentally become just a tad dogmatic. I believe most people on PH think paleo is a great way to eat healthy and that's all.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 07, 2012
at 11:35 PM

"People on this board think that the paleo diet will cure anything." I can only assume you didn't read the other 3 answers?

Bbceb114ed2332c22490e324d991497e

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:59 PM

You are right. I rescind what I said.

Bbceb114ed2332c22490e324d991497e

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on February 07, 2012
at 11:48 PM

No, I did read them. I mean in other posts I've authored or seen.

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on February 08, 2012
at 01:07 AM

I upvoted all of your comments, and I don't even know why

Bbceb114ed2332c22490e324d991497e

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:00 AM

Yeah, I agree with you. I apologize for my inaccuracies.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:39 AM

So I have severe depression and I've struggled with my weight pretty much since I was a kid. Over time, I figured out that eating wheat makes me feel bad (sad, sluggish, bloated) and that various processed foods do much the same thing. Totally eliminating carbs in my diet, however, definitely makes my depression worse. Paleo offers me a way to balance meeting my caloric and carb needs without triggering that awful cycle of "feel bad -- eat sugar/wheat -- feel okay -- feel REALLY bad" etc.

I know that there are folks who will not agree with me on this, but my experience has been that some of us do better (feel better, perform better, lose weight) on a diet that emphasizes meat, veggies, and fruit while deemphasizing grains and rice. I think I'm one of those people. I suspect that a lot of us who struggle with binge eating and with our weight on 'conventional' eating plans might also have trouble with grains/rice. (The disagreement is that I've met folks who think EVERYONE should do paleo. I don't think that. I think it helps me. I don't know if it will help you.)

I'd suggest that trying it for a couple of weeks won't seriously impact your weight or cause you any long-term harm. I'd really encourage you to try to get help for the body image/binging issue if you can. I benefited tremendously from cognitive therapy. It helped me realize how harshly I was judging myself, especially compared to how compassionate I was towards others. I don't 'love' myself now, but I got out of the cycle of self-hatred that was making me pretty miserable. I wish I'd done before I reached age 30!

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on February 08, 2012
at 07:29 AM

I would like an example of a person who wouldn't be better off being paleo?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:53 AM

It's good of you to share your insights with others, Charlotte. I have the same perceptions as you about my (past) binge eating and grains although, for me, wheat seems to be the only real problem.

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on February 08, 2012
at 04:08 AM

My guess is that if you start eating paleo you will likely start feeling better because your gut will appreciate the nutrients you are feeding it. And at least for me, if I'm feeling good (ie- not bloated, no aches/pains, full of energy, etc) I am much less likely to binge than if I'm feeling bloated or tired.

I also think that your weight will take care of itself over time. It probably sounds cliche, but if you are feeding your body what it wants/needs, it's going to do what it is meant to do.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that you find what you are looking for! :)

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