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Advice on cutting out excessive amounts of modern fresh/dehydrated fruit

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Created October 05, 2010 at 2:35 PM

So I'm living the Paleo dream right now. I am also not drinking caffeine right now which is a very large personal victory for me since i used to drink ~10 cups a day.

My next hurdle is giving up the several hundred calories of sugar I am eating everyday in the form of dried (nothing added) or ripe fresh fruit.

Has anyone else given up modern fruit in their quest to live more with the spirit of Paleo? What have you done to succeed at doing this? Does anyone think that moderation is key to this? If yes, how much?

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on June 11, 2011
at 04:14 AM

For my dehydrator, it recommends soaking apples and other similar fruits in a mixture of water and lemon juice for a few minutes before dehydrating. This keeps the fruit from turning brown during the drying process. And yes, I realize this is a very old comment.

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on October 06, 2010
at 03:18 AM

I don't soak any of the fruit. I just clean it, slice it up, and lay it out on the sheets. That's a strange instruction, because the dehydrator pulls out all of the liquid, so adding extra liquid would just make the process take longer and is unnecessary. Maybe you're thinking of the instructions for reconstituting a dried meal? When I make crackers in my dehydrator (veggie pulp + almond flour + seasoning), sometimes I actually take the extra step of juicing the veggies first so that they're even drier and the dehydration process is even faster, plus I have health juice drink.

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on October 06, 2010
at 01:11 AM

Obviously some people do fine. You could stuff my house with Krispy Kreme, dried fruit, and whatever, and I wouldn't touch it. In general, though, if it's in the house, it WILL get eaten. Robb insists on this and he is right 90% of the time.

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on October 05, 2010
at 10:56 PM

So I have a dehydrator but have only used it for jerky, because it said I have to soak fruit in juice first. Do you just do it in water or something?

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on October 05, 2010
at 10:55 PM

im also a fan of this. cold turkey for sure. only way to later be able to fully realize the effect of driedfruit consumption.

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:03 PM

And I second the dried fruit bit. I can go cold turkey on many things, but having dried fruit around is just so darn tempting, partially because it seems quite paleo at first glance.

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on October 05, 2010
at 06:23 PM

Human self control is better than lab mice. They're experts at drinking sugar solutions and becoming diabetic! In fact, we have a community of people here who have access to unlimited sweet and salty food, and choose to eat very little of it. Amazing!

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on October 05, 2010
at 04:29 PM

I second this approach.

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There is no key to moderation. Humans lack evolved mechanisms to support self-control or moderation of certain foods, especially sweets. Don't buy dried fruit or keep it in your house, and there's your solution. With regard to fresh fruit, buy just enough to get you through a week or less of moderate consumption.

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on October 05, 2010
at 03:52 PM

Cold Turkey for 30, avoid the high fructose and dried when you return and youll see what they do to you... but without cold turkey... youll only create cravings by trying to ingest very small amounts.

if you absolutely cant go without, eliminate dried and focus on the lower fructose scale/sour fruits.

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on October 05, 2010
at 04:29 PM

I second this approach.

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on October 05, 2010
at 10:55 PM

im also a fan of this. cold turkey for sure. only way to later be able to fully realize the effect of driedfruit consumption.

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on October 05, 2010
at 05:52 PM

I totally had the same problem, with fruit and starchy veggies. A lot of people mentioned 30 days cold turkey, but I had to ween myself of it, because it was just too large a part of my diet to just drop it instantly. I had smaller and smaller portions of it at each meal, and then restricted it to only a little after dinner, and now, I rarely eat it at all. Doing it that, I've seen what I huge effect fruit sugar has on messing with my concentration, making me sluggish, and making me hungry all day long.

For dried fruit, I really recommend buying your own dehydrator and making it yourself. I have an Excalibur. Then you can at least control that no added sugar goes into it. I never realized how much added sugar, or sometimes frying, goes into store-bought, processed dried fruit until I made it myself and saw what a more natural product looks like.

F82f7d4dafb6d0ffc4c2ee2a85420786

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on October 05, 2010
at 10:56 PM

So I have a dehydrator but have only used it for jerky, because it said I have to soak fruit in juice first. Do you just do it in water or something?

E46d4f7e35e46ee4e8211ab4bc852023

(1510)

on October 06, 2010
at 03:18 AM

I don't soak any of the fruit. I just clean it, slice it up, and lay it out on the sheets. That's a strange instruction, because the dehydrator pulls out all of the liquid, so adding extra liquid would just make the process take longer and is unnecessary. Maybe you're thinking of the instructions for reconstituting a dried meal? When I make crackers in my dehydrator (veggie pulp + almond flour + seasoning), sometimes I actually take the extra step of juicing the veggies first so that they're even drier and the dehydration process is even faster, plus I have health juice drink.

949d4d02ea7d1abd714cc3347c2c6854

(1021)

on June 11, 2011
at 04:14 AM

For my dehydrator, it recommends soaking apples and other similar fruits in a mixture of water and lemon juice for a few minutes before dehydrating. This keeps the fruit from turning brown during the drying process. And yes, I realize this is a very old comment.

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on October 05, 2010
at 03:50 PM

Try only using dried fruit as a garnish or a condiment to something else, e.g. sprinkle some craisins on a salad with pecans etc.

Better yet, do 30-days without them in your diet, substituting regular fruit (limited intake). When you try eating dried fruit after 30 days, you'll feel the rush of sugar and it'll amaze you that you ever ate so much of it. (It's what I did to kick the habit).

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on October 05, 2010
at 03:18 PM

I don't have a problem with fresh fruit. I eat some and then I feel satiated and I don't crave any more. I don't buy dried fruit unless I am going camping. The one that I do avoid, though, is dates. Those things are super sugar bombs! I only eat those if I am at someone's house or venue and they prepared them, which is maybe a few times per year. And I only eat one or two. I think a few hundred calories of fruit is fine if your metabolism is in decent condition. It provides good nutrients and the sugars help restore glycogen in the liver and muscles. However, if you are trying to lose weight and are stalled, cutting back on sugars can help with weight loss. One thing that works well for me is to pick one meal of the day only where I eat that item and don't eat it for any other meals. Like maybe just allow fruit for breakfast or lunch.

In the past, I was eating lowcarb but not paleo. In that diet, I did not eat any fruit for a long time, at least 8 months. On that diet, I lost a lot of weight but did not feel as good as I do now on paleo. I think maybe the level of carbs was just too low for me back then. I often would feel really tired after lunch. I actually was not eating much processed food back then and was never a big fan of grain oils, so even then, my diet was not too far off from paleo. The main difference was I eat more carbs now, in the form of fresh fruit only.

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on October 05, 2010
at 03:07 PM

I try and eat just that amount which I realistically would have picked had it been in the wild (for fresh fruit) and I try and avoid dried fruit altogether, because I can easily eat a giant bag of raisins or any dried fruit for that matter, and I get a serious rush when I do (and subsequent crash). I do occasionally have dried fruit in a cooked dish, but avoid eating them as a snack on their own. Their just too damned irrestible. I just need to learn to apply this to nuts and seeds....

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on October 05, 2010
at 03:04 PM

If you can't give it up cold turkey, my advice would be to at least give up the dried fruit. It's way too easy to pop too much fruit like candy when it's dried. After that you can wean yourself off fresh fruit gradually.

I cut back on fruit drastically, although I was never really eating a high amount of it in the first place. I was having a couple pieces a day, and now it's a few a week.

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on October 05, 2010
at 02:48 PM

LOL. I was just visiting family one of my relatives has a serious dried fruit addiction. I ate a bunch of it too and I definitely gained weight. I think the secret to avoiding it is to only buy it for travel. My relative had a bunch of it just in the house and snacking on it was irresistible. Fresh fruit is much better for you overall and you are much less likely to overeat it. You can make better fruit choices by substituting berries for bananas/apples/other high sugar fruit.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:03 PM

And I second the dried fruit bit. I can go cold turkey on many things, but having dried fruit around is just so darn tempting, partially because it seems quite paleo at first glance.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on October 05, 2010
at 03:07 PM

There is no key to moderation. Humans lack evolved mechanisms to support self-control or moderation of certain foods, especially sweets. Don't buy dried fruit or keep it in your house, and there's your solution. With regard to fresh fruit, buy just enough to get you through a week or less of moderate consumption.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on October 06, 2010
at 01:11 AM

Obviously some people do fine. You could stuff my house with Krispy Kreme, dried fruit, and whatever, and I wouldn't touch it. In general, though, if it's in the house, it WILL get eaten. Robb insists on this and he is right 90% of the time.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 05, 2010
at 06:23 PM

Human self control is better than lab mice. They're experts at drinking sugar solutions and becoming diabetic! In fact, we have a community of people here who have access to unlimited sweet and salty food, and choose to eat very little of it. Amazing!

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:56 PM

simply don't buy them. :-/

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