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15 Day Water Fast... will I gain it all back?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 27, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Why is long term fasting not recommended? I know lots of people say that right when you start eating you will gain it all back and it will all turn to fat, but isn't that only if you overeat? If weight loss is going to happen anyway, why can't it be done "rapidly" ? I've also heard that you are more likely to keep the weight off when you lose it slowly, but I lost weight 1 lb at a week for 15 weeks just to gain it all back after some family occasions. :( devastating. I spent all that time just to gain it all back. So what's wrong with losing it fast as well? :/

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:31 AM

Please seek help <3..http://www.helpguide.org/mental/eating_disorder_treatment.htm

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:26 AM

Amber, instead of focusing on weight-loss (gradual or rapid; healthy or unhealthy), we should focus on addressing the psychological issues that have caused our disordered relationship with food and our own body. You can "TRY to do this right." But it's a mental disorder, Amber... We need to address what's wrong with our minds before you can claim health and optimal weight. I am still struggling and learning.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:23 AM

@Amber, I really wish I could help you out with your daily menu...The thing is I am on the same boat as you. People would recommend us to see a professional dietitian and therapist, which I am doing. One thing I have learned the hard way is not to restrict yourself... Please don't restrict yourself from any single macronutrient, or food groups. For those who have vulnerable relationships with food, those "rules" (like no fruit, potatoes, etc.) can trigger binge-eating later on. You are setting yourself again for a vicious cycle...

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 28, 2012
at 12:18 PM

+1 @coffeesnob for taking the question seriously and giving such a thoughtful response.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 28, 2012
at 12:16 PM

@Matt: dismissively telling someone they have issues and to seek "help" in this way doesn't help at all. See coffeesnob's answer below and the ensuing comments for a good example of how the "internet rabble" can actually help someone.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on October 28, 2012
at 06:43 AM

Btw what does your daily menu look like now...? For healthy, gradual weight loss. thanks xx

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on October 28, 2012
at 06:06 AM

And also both thyroid and cortisol may be out of whack

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on October 28, 2012
at 06:05 AM

yeah, at a point leptin will be too low and force your brain to regain the wt. Short term fasting (i.e. daily time restricted feeding window) will allow increased leptin sensitivity without the downsides of long term fasting. Also ghrelin levels don't return to baseline with weight loss so you'll be constantly hungry.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:43 AM

Wow coffeesnob thank you so much for your help support. I also (so weird again how similar we are) got to my lowest weight of 106 (through fasting) my first year of high school and also still thought I was fat. Probably really messed up my body through all my fasting back then too. Thank you for your prayers, I will keep you in mine too. And thank you thank thank you again. I am going to TRY to do this right. I am going to go back to meats, veggies, some fats, no fruit, potatoes, grains(obv)/sugars, and stop IF. And try to walk for 20 mintues before breakfast. I'll email you if I need support!

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:27 AM

I am praying for you, Amber. I am going through the same struggle as you are... Let me know how I can help/support you. Feel free to email me at paleocoffeesnob@gmail.com

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Now I think about it...I wasted my youth (time, energy, social relationship not to mention health) because of my eating disorder...I am so happy that you are beginning to how you can be healthy mentally. You can accomplish so much when your mind is not wasted with irrational thoughts about food and weight!

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:20 AM

Also, in high school I also felt like I was always chubbier than my friends. Even at my lowest weight at 105lbs, I felt chubby... My mind was always preoccupied with food, diet, weight...I was always comparing my body to others, and observing others eating patterns... etc. But I also didn't realize that it was a disordered behavior/thought in high school. I realized that I had an eating disorder all along only after it became a serious medical issue. Last year, I experienced amennorrhea and massive hair loss...I only wish that I identified my disordered relationship with food early on.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I am glad to help. I was so nervous that you might take my comment the wrong way. Anyways, I am also surprised to find that your experiences are similar to mine. Ever since I started IF, my binges got worse (nuts, nut butter, cheese...you name it). I so firmly believed in the principles of IF and Paleo that I thought I was doing my body good during the whole time. But no...I gained weight and my eating disorder got worse...

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:02 AM

for me. I am going to try to lose weight the right way. And scratch IF. Thank you coffeesnob. I would say I am constantly obsessing/thinking/dreaming about weight/food. Binging/obsessing... but I never thought of it as an eating disorder. I am going to pray and and use all my might to eat right for my body and mental health. Everything you said rings a memory right into my mind. Thank you for posting.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 02:59 AM

Wow coffeesnob. For the first time in my life I see that what I have been doing to myself.... is not healthy. I in no way have self-pity either I just... I've just always wanted to lose weight. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story with me. I am actually surprised how almost EXACT our experiences are. Now that I think about it, ever since I incorporated IF whether 16/8 or 24 hours or more, I think that was the first time I started having weight issues/binging/etc. All this time I just thought I had to push it further to see results but maybe, like you discovered, IF is not

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 28, 2012
at 02:36 AM

Sounds like you have some serious issues to contend with. Seek help, not the internet rabble's validation of your issues.

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on October 28, 2012
at 02:16 AM

Amber, your questions are getting more and more extreme! Just stick to the basics...

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on October 27, 2012
at 10:51 PM

just curious about what you mean by this. the leptin/cortisol/ghrelin?

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92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

on October 28, 2012
at 02:08 AM

Amber,

For a 16 year-old female, an extended period of fasting is not really healthy. Also, it seems like you are experiencing binges/overeating episodes, which may have contributed to your recent weight gain.

I am very similar to you, except slightly older (23 yo). I am 5'1 and currently weigh 130lbs. Last summer, my anorexic tendency worsened and my weight went down to 105lbs with calorie restriction, fasting and cardio. I think I lost 15 lbs in two months at that time. During recovery, I adopted intermittent fasting, experimented with it for a few months and gained weight from it. During this period, my anorexic tendency turned into bulimia...Intermittent fasting took a toll on my mental health, so I had to stop. (Note: I am making a general comment about intermitting fasting, not specifically longterm water fast, after reviewing your previous questions and comments).

IF works great for some; it doesn't for others. Especially for women and for someone who is still a teen, IF may not be a great solution... If fasting is affecting your mental health (are you obsessing with weight loss, eating, food in general? Does the end of fasting lead to binges and uncontrollable overeating?), IF may not be working for you. Do you think fasting has something to do with your recent weight gain? Is fasting healthy for a young lady like yourself?

Instead of being so fixated on quick weight loss through extreme measures like water fast for 15 days, I think we can both benefit from developing an eating plan and sticking to it. You can design the eating plan so it is lowish in total calories and rich in whole foods, so you can lose weight gradually and healthily. I am still working on it. We both know it's possible to lose weight fast, but we do not want to go that route at the cost of our mental health...From personal experience, we know that it's hard to maintain drastic weight loss, and that it may result in weight fluctuations and emotional distress.

Here is my story. Please don't make the same mistake I made: http://paleohacks.com/questions/128054/how-did-i-gain-20lbs-on-paleo-i-am-overweight-now#axzz2AYXhgVUY

Also... please check to see if you have a disordered relationship with food/eating...seek help before it's too late. http://www.healthyplace.com/eating-disorders/eating-disorders-overview/eating-attitudes-test-do-i-have-an-eating-disorder/

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 06:43 AM

Btw what does your daily menu look like now...? For healthy, gradual weight loss. thanks xx

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:15 AM

I am glad to help. I was so nervous that you might take my comment the wrong way. Anyways, I am also surprised to find that your experiences are similar to mine. Ever since I started IF, my binges got worse (nuts, nut butter, cheese...you name it). I so firmly believed in the principles of IF and Paleo that I thought I was doing my body good during the whole time. But no...I gained weight and my eating disorder got worse...

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:43 AM

Wow coffeesnob thank you so much for your help support. I also (so weird again how similar we are) got to my lowest weight of 106 (through fasting) my first year of high school and also still thought I was fat. Probably really messed up my body through all my fasting back then too. Thank you for your prayers, I will keep you in mine too. And thank you thank thank you again. I am going to TRY to do this right. I am going to go back to meats, veggies, some fats, no fruit, potatoes, grains(obv)/sugars, and stop IF. And try to walk for 20 mintues before breakfast. I'll email you if I need support!

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:02 AM

for me. I am going to try to lose weight the right way. And scratch IF. Thank you coffeesnob. I would say I am constantly obsessing/thinking/dreaming about weight/food. Binging/obsessing... but I never thought of it as an eating disorder. I am going to pray and and use all my might to eat right for my body and mental health. Everything you said rings a memory right into my mind. Thank you for posting.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(753)

on October 28, 2012
at 02:59 AM

Wow coffeesnob. For the first time in my life I see that what I have been doing to myself.... is not healthy. I in no way have self-pity either I just... I've just always wanted to lose weight. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story with me. I am actually surprised how almost EXACT our experiences are. Now that I think about it, ever since I incorporated IF whether 16/8 or 24 hours or more, I think that was the first time I started having weight issues/binging/etc. All this time I just thought I had to push it further to see results but maybe, like you discovered, IF is not

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:27 AM

I am praying for you, Amber. I am going through the same struggle as you are... Let me know how I can help/support you. Feel free to email me at paleocoffeesnob@gmail.com

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:26 AM

Amber, instead of focusing on weight-loss (gradual or rapid; healthy or unhealthy), we should focus on addressing the psychological issues that have caused our disordered relationship with food and our own body. You can "TRY to do this right." But it's a mental disorder, Amber... We need to address what's wrong with our minds before you can claim health and optimal weight. I am still struggling and learning.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:20 AM

Also, in high school I also felt like I was always chubbier than my friends. Even at my lowest weight at 105lbs, I felt chubby... My mind was always preoccupied with food, diet, weight...I was always comparing my body to others, and observing others eating patterns... etc. But I also didn't realize that it was a disordered behavior/thought in high school. I realized that I had an eating disorder all along only after it became a serious medical issue. Last year, I experienced amennorrhea and massive hair loss...I only wish that I identified my disordered relationship with food early on.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 28, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Now I think about it...I wasted my youth (time, energy, social relationship not to mention health) because of my eating disorder...I am so happy that you are beginning to how you can be healthy mentally. You can accomplish so much when your mind is not wasted with irrational thoughts about food and weight!

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:23 AM

@Amber, I really wish I could help you out with your daily menu...The thing is I am on the same boat as you. People would recommend us to see a professional dietitian and therapist, which I am doing. One thing I have learned the hard way is not to restrict yourself... Please don't restrict yourself from any single macronutrient, or food groups. For those who have vulnerable relationships with food, those "rules" (like no fruit, potatoes, etc.) can trigger binge-eating later on. You are setting yourself again for a vicious cycle...

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 28, 2012
at 12:18 PM

+1 @coffeesnob for taking the question seriously and giving such a thoughtful response.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on October 30, 2012
at 11:31 AM

Please seek help <3..http://www.helpguide.org/mental/eating_disorder_treatment.htm

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6258fbc4855d3bdc09e414c9492ae416

(102)

on October 28, 2012
at 02:05 AM

You will lower your metabolism and lose lean body mass. Not what you want to do.

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on October 27, 2012
at 10:36 PM

Hormones will end up over-riding your weight loss.

673f7ad6052448d51496f177395416b7

(344)

on October 27, 2012
at 10:51 PM

just curious about what you mean by this. the leptin/cortisol/ghrelin?

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on October 28, 2012
at 06:06 AM

And also both thyroid and cortisol may be out of whack

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on October 28, 2012
at 06:05 AM

yeah, at a point leptin will be too low and force your brain to regain the wt. Short term fasting (i.e. daily time restricted feeding window) will allow increased leptin sensitivity without the downsides of long term fasting. Also ghrelin levels don't return to baseline with weight loss so you'll be constantly hungry.

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C4c952554fbdcdc08ca594ed3049e308

on October 28, 2012
at 10:09 AM

Since you are not overweight, your body will never support a sustained weight loss, its not where your body wants to be. additionally fasting is not for weightloss it is for healing, this is also what paleo is really about to. Perhaps you should discontinue this obsession with weight loss and focus on becoming healthy. People have skinny feels so much better than food tastes, or something stupid like that, but the true saying is, Healthy feels so much better than skinny looks.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 28, 2012
at 02:12 AM

At best your weight loss will be 50/50 fat/muscle. Which means you start eating you'll be more likely to add fat because you have low lean mass. If you want to lean out then start lifting heavy, reduce your carb level to 150gm range (to start) from Paleo foods and just lift and eat to satiety. Not as fast, maybe, but sustainable.

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