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weight gain and poop problems

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Created April 08, 2012 at 4:34 PM

I have number of autoimmune problems (autoimmune cardio myopathy, celiac, thyroid, and liver) though I never had ANY health problems before 2 years ago (I am a 30 year old wellness coach and fitness instructor) BUT- Have always had bad GI issues since I was a kid. I went paleo a few months ago, and things have not gotten better. I have slowly gained about 10 lbs, which I feel is all in my belly and I am always bloated. My stools are loose and runny, and stick to the bottom of the toilet. i don't overdo it on the fat either! Lots of fruits and veggies, lean meats, eggs, and avoid nightshades. No dairy or added sugars, caffeine, etc. Please- ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREAT! Before I went Paleo, I had normal and solid stools, and now I feel like it never gets all out. Sorry this is TMI. Thanks for all the help!!

Ali

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on April 24, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Added tag based on comment below by OP as to a Dx she received.

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on April 14, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Sigmoidoscopy Thursday showed ulcerative colitis. Thanks for the tips!

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on April 12, 2012
at 12:31 AM

Thanks Heather, I am getting a sigmoidoscopy tomorrow. Will keep you posted! :)

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on April 12, 2012
at 12:31 AM

All of the above, yes :) I am Gf, as I have celiac. Getting some more tests tomorrow. Thanks!

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on April 10, 2012
at 04:16 PM

what are your veggies, cause one apple depending on its size will only run you around 30g carbs. Also, nuts do a number on my GI tract if I eat too many of them, and apple are hard to digest unless you eat them with some other form of glucose, like a banana. This has to do with the glucose/fructose ratio, which is very low in apples.

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on April 09, 2012
at 05:22 PM

I would definitely recommend you see a gastro and get an upper GI (endoscopy) to see what is going on in your stomach. Those little glutens / gliadins really did a number on my stomach and intestines. I tried a variety of natural remedies (including DGL - which is licorice with the bad stuff removed) to resolve my gastritis and ulcer, unfortunately, I had to be put on PPIs (I hate those things, but so far they are the only things that resolve my issues). And definitely talk to your endo about dessicated thyroid. Good Luck, Ali!

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:05 AM

I would suggest you get your carbs mainly from fruit. Fruits want to be eaten, they have no harmful antinutrients and provide vitamins/minerals. The only point to watch out for might be fructose malabsorption, which often goes along with a damaged gut (from allergies etc.). Anyway, the main calories should still come from fat, especially with regard to your weight gain.

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on April 09, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Super helpful, thanks! I am not sure it is hashimotos- they just put me on levytyroxin, but I have been wanting to ask my doc. about desiccated thyroid instead, as I notice no difference after 6 weeks on this med. I do have a lot of stomach pain, a lot of the time. Have been hesitant to cut out fruit, since I am already so limited. Did that help you a lot? I have been told in the past i have gastritis. Any other things you find help a lot? Thanks Heather!

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on April 09, 2012
at 12:54 AM

Good points! I sometimes think I need to add more carbs to build bulk in m stools- I am hungry so much of the time, so maybe I am not getting enough! I am not familiar with salicylates/histamines, but I will do some research. Also, allergic to soy.

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:08 PM

Hi - thanks for answering. I cook each meal with about a teaspoon of coconut oil. Other than that, I eat stuff like almond butter, cashew butter, etc. I think it usually breaks down to about 40/30/30 on most days. I love fruits and veggies- but focus more on veggies than fruits. (I would say one apple a day, max.) Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

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at 07:23 PM

Foods that contain types of carbs which are not digested but later broken down by gut bacteria. They can cause various digestive issues. http://ibs.about.com/od/ibsfood/a/The-FODMAP-Diet.htm

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:11 PM

what are FODMAPs?

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at 05:43 PM

How much fat ARE you eating, and what types? When you say you eat a lot of fruit/veggies, how much is that, and what is the ratio of carbs/ protein/ fat? I have found that after I went paleo I upped my fat intake, and lowered my carbs which meant I was eating less volume of food and it digests more easily... This is my personal experience though.

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:24 PM

I am going to start with stating I AM NOT A DOCTOR! So you can take my response below with a grain of salt...(anyone know where that saying came from? Just some intellectual curiosity).

You list "thyroid" as part of a list of autoimmune disorders. Is it Hashimoto's Thyroiditis? 'Cuz this lovely disorder can swing back and forth between hyper and hypo (oh so much fun!) - which can cause you to experience bouts of tarry, diarrhea-like bowel movements (along with other symptoms). If you do have Hashimoto's, are you on a natural thyroid replacement (desiccated thyroid)? You may want to schedule an appointment with your endo to get your levels tested.

Also, you mention Celiac's, which I have (along with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis). I had to give up all fruit because it was causing similar symptoms in me (along with the tarry poos I also had stomach pains -- do you have stomach pains?). Have you had an upper GI recently? I found out from my latest endoscopy that I have gastritis (basically, my mucous membrane in my stomach is gone) and a peptic ulcer -- both damage from Celiac's that haven't healed (and get this, my Hashimoto's may have been caused by my Celiac's...gluten is evil!). In this case, you may want to schedule an appointment with your gastro to make sure your insides are...as well as they can be with multiple autoimmune disorders.

One thing I have learned from going Paleo with multiple autoimmune disorders is that you still need to work closely with your doctors to make sure your disorders stay in check. Which I have found they have...as long as I eat as close to the earth as possible (no processed foods...even gluten-free processed foods occasionally cause me issues). When I originally started following the "paleo movement", I was like "screw you guys, I'm outta here!" to my doctors...VERY BAD MISTAKE. I am still paying for it.

I am hoping none of the above pertains to you and it is just a simple elimination diet as Thomy suggests above...good luck to you!

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(80)

on April 09, 2012
at 12:56 AM

Super helpful, thanks! I am not sure it is hashimotos- they just put me on levytyroxin, but I have been wanting to ask my doc. about desiccated thyroid instead, as I notice no difference after 6 weeks on this med. I do have a lot of stomach pain, a lot of the time. Have been hesitant to cut out fruit, since I am already so limited. Did that help you a lot? I have been told in the past i have gastritis. Any other things you find help a lot? Thanks Heather!

45eaf1688c1baf31d687a382b78f451f

(502)

on April 09, 2012
at 05:22 PM

I would definitely recommend you see a gastro and get an upper GI (endoscopy) to see what is going on in your stomach. Those little glutens / gliadins really did a number on my stomach and intestines. I tried a variety of natural remedies (including DGL - which is licorice with the bad stuff removed) to resolve my gastritis and ulcer, unfortunately, I had to be put on PPIs (I hate those things, but so far they are the only things that resolve my issues). And definitely talk to your endo about dessicated thyroid. Good Luck, Ali!

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on April 12, 2012
at 12:31 AM

Thanks Heather, I am getting a sigmoidoscopy tomorrow. Will keep you posted! :)

2a17904e3436c49530e5bedaeb06dd5b

(80)

on April 14, 2012
at 04:26 PM

Sigmoidoscopy Thursday showed ulcerative colitis. Thanks for the tips!

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on April 08, 2012
at 06:27 PM

If you're very low carb, try increasing your carb intake a little. (fruit, safe starches) The mucous membrane of your gut lining will be thanking you.

Also as Jen said, make sure to get enough fat.

Hypothyroidism may be also an issue. Get enough iodine and selenium (but make sure not to ingest any gluten in your case)

EDIT:

Ever did an elimination diet? Such bowel problems are often the result of food sensitivities and/or allergies.

Since you've cut out dairy and nightshades, try eliminating those guys: (and avoid cross contamination)

  • Eggs?
  • Nuts/Seeds? (Coconut?)
  • FODMAPs?
  • Salicylates/Histamine?

I had those problems with cheap olive oil (actually "extra virgin" but cheap). Then I found out that cheap olive oil is often diluted with soy oil. I'm allergic to soy.. hooray!

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:11 PM

what are FODMAPs?

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(2384)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:05 AM

I would suggest you get your carbs mainly from fruit. Fruits want to be eaten, they have no harmful antinutrients and provide vitamins/minerals. The only point to watch out for might be fructose malabsorption, which often goes along with a damaged gut (from allergies etc.). Anyway, the main calories should still come from fat, especially with regard to your weight gain.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on April 08, 2012
at 07:23 PM

Foods that contain types of carbs which are not digested but later broken down by gut bacteria. They can cause various digestive issues. http://ibs.about.com/od/ibsfood/a/The-FODMAP-Diet.htm

2a17904e3436c49530e5bedaeb06dd5b

(80)

on April 09, 2012
at 12:54 AM

Good points! I sometimes think I need to add more carbs to build bulk in m stools- I am hungry so much of the time, so maybe I am not getting enough! I am not familiar with salicylates/histamines, but I will do some research. Also, allergic to soy.

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on April 10, 2012
at 03:53 PM

I'm not a doctor either.
You know that your tummy issues are probably the result of immune disorder, strange that you had it as a kid as well. Is there gluten in your diet? Have you tried probiotics? The Paleo diet is supposed to be great for immune diseases.

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(80)

on April 12, 2012
at 12:31 AM

All of the above, yes :) I am Gf, as I have celiac. Getting some more tests tomorrow. Thanks!

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on April 09, 2012
at 06:50 PM

Eggs do this to me. I second the recommendation to try removing them and see if your symptoms improve.

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:09 PM

I have had similar issues and history with bowels, thyroid, etc. I have discovered Siberian ginseng or eleuthero as helpful to the adrenal fatigue.

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