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Weight gain after 7 months paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM

I was a raw vegan for 2 1/2 years pre-paleo. Anemic, lacking energy and panic stricken I found the paleo diet and have loved it ever since. I am 16. Orginally I was eating huge portions, 10 oz prime rib with lobster tails, 12 oz steaks and 1/4-1/2 free range chickens.Happy, healthy and lean/muscular Now I have attempted IF, decreased calories and reduced carbs and am gaining bellyfat.What could be going on? Also when I tried low carb I couldn't sleep/panic attacks.I have no issues with eating, I just want to be fit/strong.

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on July 15, 2012
at 07:40 PM

That's what I have been doing since it is summer and have been seeing much better results!! Honestly now I just eat when I'm hungry. Try it. And upping fats helps a lot! Whenever I eat a source of carbs I add lots of fat (like sweet potato loaded with coconut oil). I am also 16. Email me if you wanna chat! I'd be interested.

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on March 18, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Same experiences as me : IF and low carb don't work for me. They make me tired and vulnerable to stress.

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on March 18, 2012
at 06:49 AM

April~ There's a thread here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread27894.html (pt 1 of a 3 part series.) IIRC, there is not a huge jump in cortisol, but *my* IF experience is that any change in routine can be stressful. 14 hour IFs seem to be easier on some women than longer fasts according to Martin Berkhan.

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on March 18, 2012
at 04:10 AM

@dragonfly - your answers are always sensible and spot on. +1

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on March 18, 2012
at 04:03 AM

Super helpful! I'm sort of experiencing the same thing and was wondering whether to stop IF... got any literature on cortisol + IF, Dragonfly? I've also heard Bea Arthur DeVany say women particularly don't do well on IF.

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on March 18, 2012
at 01:38 AM

also I am not that active.

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on March 18, 2012
at 01:38 AM

I measure the weight/fat gain by clothes, not a scale btw.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 18, 2012
at 01:17 AM

So stop the IF, and increase your calories and carbs!

If you are young & active & fit, there is no need to limit carbs or calories.

You probably jacked up your cortisol (from the IF) and are retaining some water (due to low calories.)

Go back to what was working & you will probably see the belly fat drop off.

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(32556)

on March 18, 2012
at 06:49 AM

April~ There's a thread here: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread27894.html (pt 1 of a 3 part series.) IIRC, there is not a huge jump in cortisol, but *my* IF experience is that any change in routine can be stressful. 14 hour IFs seem to be easier on some women than longer fasts according to Martin Berkhan.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on March 18, 2012
at 04:10 AM

@dragonfly - your answers are always sensible and spot on. +1

Medium avatar

(10663)

on March 18, 2012
at 04:03 AM

Super helpful! I'm sort of experiencing the same thing and was wondering whether to stop IF... got any literature on cortisol + IF, Dragonfly? I've also heard Bea Arthur DeVany say women particularly don't do well on IF.

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on March 19, 2012
at 10:31 AM

You're probably over doing it. IF isn't supposed to be chronic, don't do it every day (if you are). YMMV and all that, but I found out the hard way that doing IF every day leads to loads of cortisol.

I eat from 12pm (sometimes 3pm) to 8-9pm on IF days. I make sure to do IF on the days that I work out, but I make sure after a heavy work out, I skip the IF the next day and sometimes the day after. Also I don't eat for an hour after a work out, so as to allow for autophagy, not just insulin resistance.

If the work out was a heavy one, I do eat some carbs, usually half a sweet potato or banana with the PWO meal - if you do a heavy work out and feel like a zombie until the next day, eat some carbs after the work out. (And of course enough protein from good meat/fish sources for the next few meals to ensure muscle rebuild/repair.) I generally don't eat more carbs during the week than that.

I do sometimes work out while not IF'ing, but depends on energy levels. Since I'm also doing the cold therapy thing, if I actually feel the cold, I do eat, since that means I've not liberated enough energy from fat stores, but this is just a 4 rashers of bacon + 4 eggs breakfast.

At some point you just can't get enough calories out of fat stores and your metabolism slows down to prevent starvation, if you're also doing VLC, cortisol kicks in so as to provide enough glycogen, but this process is slow and if you're not eating enough protein (from your post, you are, so no worries), it would catabolize muscle instead, which gets to be dangerous, since it can take it from your heart as well.

Point is, listen to your body's symptoms. Once you're adapted to VLC, if you feel cold, or hungry, or lethargic, cut back on the IF. If you don't have a lot of energy, enough to complete your work out, go easier, or eat more.

(I say once you're adapted to VLC, because for those just starting out - not you, necessarily, carb cravings will cause unnecessary hunger, so those signals aren't reliable. This is due to high insulin levels preventing fat from exiting fat cells, but blood glucose levels gone low since carbs were also shunted to fat cells from the previous insulin spike, so you'd feel hunger anyway.)

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on March 18, 2012
at 04:05 AM

"I just want to be fit/strong" & "I am not that active".

You have to align your efforts and your goals!

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on March 18, 2012
at 03:20 PM

Would it be helpful to have one meal in the morning and one at night (12 hour fasts)?

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on July 15, 2012
at 07:40 PM

That's what I have been doing since it is summer and have been seeing much better results!! Honestly now I just eat when I'm hungry. Try it. And upping fats helps a lot! Whenever I eat a source of carbs I add lots of fat (like sweet potato loaded with coconut oil). I am also 16. Email me if you wanna chat! I'd be interested.

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