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I dont think im eating enough calories to help put me in ketosis

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM

So for some background on me, im a male 20 years old 175 lbs. I did a bodybuilding competition earlier this year and i hated the diet i was on so i recently made the switch to paleo. when i first started i saw awesome results but now it seems its going the other way. I had gone from 180 down to about 170 and looked very lean and i was happy with that but for some reason i started gaining weight again and im back up to about 178 and i dont look lean anymore. I started logging my foods into myfitnesspal in an effort to find where i was going wrong and for any given day here are my macros: 1709 Cals, 59g carbs, 91g fat, and 165g protein. I was surprised to see that i was below 2000 calories and i was still gaining weight because i lift everyday and either add a crossfit type workout i come up with or do stairmaster for a while. Can anyone see where im going wrong because i love the foods im eating but im not happy with the weight gain.

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on April 30, 2013
at 12:14 AM

Also, I probably didn't answer the actual question about ketosis... I have to say that when I exercise, I use up ketones and show no response on ketostix. I used to really pay attention to my ketones and got tired of scratching my head wondering why I wasn't in ketosis. As Matt has posted, a lot of protein can kick you out of ketosis as well. That isn't necessarily good or bad. That's just how the body works. I'd rather get slimmer and stronger than lose weight and be in ketosis.

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at 12:11 AM

Agreed, Slimlcy. Do you think the net effect would be the same? If the body needs energy, it'll get it from something. Increasing fat to satisfy the energy needs would free up the protein for muscle building, or is that an oversimplification?

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at 08:36 PM

I agree with most of what you say here Anon, but I think he needs to get more Fat calories in rather than more Protein.

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on April 29, 2013
at 07:04 PM

i don't think you're counting calories accurately, but low calories will not have any impact on your ability to enter ketosis. i mean, you enter ketosis when you're starving to death.

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on April 29, 2013
at 05:42 PM

At a certain point in calorie reduction, your body starts to panic and hold onto weight as best it can. A 20 year old male needs a lot more calories than what you're taking in. Keeping the carbs low like you have is a good thing, but you could probably handle a bit more, especially if you're exercising.

Think of it this way. If your body normally needs 2000 calories to maintain itself (and I hate setting a number) and you do 1000 calories of exercise and only eat 1700 calories, you're short 1300 calories. Let's forget the wildly inaccurate calories in-calories out hypothesis and think about nutritional needs of your body. You're exercising and need protein to rebuild your muscles. I don't know if your body is burning the protein you're eating just to survive and/or breaking down the muscles to get extra protein just to make it through the day, but neither scenario is good long term. In addition, your body will slow it's metabolism to try to match your situation.

If you're exercising, stop worrying about weight. Gaining weight doesn't mean gaining fat. Gaining weight because you're gaining muscles is a very good thing. You'll need to tap into that protein store of muscles throughout your life.

You need to eat enough to cover your basal calorie needs and your extra exercise calories, and enough protein to help rebuild your muscles at minimum. Extra if you want them to get bigger.

B72e976b2df9e7f01315830062a5209c

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on April 29, 2013
at 08:36 PM

I agree with most of what you say here Anon, but I think he needs to get more Fat calories in rather than more Protein.

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

(2771)

on April 30, 2013
at 12:11 AM

Agreed, Slimlcy. Do you think the net effect would be the same? If the body needs energy, it'll get it from something. Increasing fat to satisfy the energy needs would free up the protein for muscle building, or is that an oversimplification?

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

(2771)

on April 30, 2013
at 12:14 AM

Also, I probably didn't answer the actual question about ketosis... I have to say that when I exercise, I use up ketones and show no response on ketostix. I used to really pay attention to my ketones and got tired of scratching my head wondering why I wasn't in ketosis. As Matt has posted, a lot of protein can kick you out of ketosis as well. That isn't necessarily good or bad. That's just how the body works. I'd rather get slimmer and stronger than lose weight and be in ketosis.

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on April 30, 2013
at 03:43 AM

If anything, eating fewer calories is more likely to put you into ketosis. How long did you track your food intake? You may be getting more carbs than you think.

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on April 29, 2013
at 08:18 PM

Protein can kick you out of ketosis and at the level you're consuming, that's likely.

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