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Higher carb paleo for weight gain?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Is it normal to shoot for 150-200 g of fruit/veggie carbs or even more when trying to gain weight? Or does this seem excessive to anyone?

FYI I feel fantastic but am not gaining weight as I still fall short on general calories most days. I don't eat that much fat, at least compared to most paleos.

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on March 13, 2013
at 02:48 AM

I do it mostly with fruit carbs, like bananas and dates.

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on March 13, 2013
at 02:45 AM

well to be honest I eat much more fruit than vegetables (shock horror!) and that's how I manage to get usually 2100-2500.

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Well yes and since not only can I not gain gain weight but tend towards "skinny-fat" as well, carb-loading is probably what I should try.

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on March 12, 2013
at 06:11 PM

+1, and also that I think (depending on the level of surplus you're trying to achieve) it would be pretty difficult to do without carbs, e.g. a cup of spinach is 6 calories and a cup of rice is 200.

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on March 12, 2013
at 05:31 PM

Well 150g to 200g of carbohydrate in actually given as a general dietary recommendation by the Jaminet's (http://www.perfecthealthdiet.com).

In terms of gaining weight it really is about increasing those calories. I like how Nate Green (http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com) puts it:

"If you are skinny and struggling to build muscle, you are not eating enough food. You may be eating what you consider 'a lot', but if the weight on the scale isn't going up you are not eating enough; and that's the difference 'a lot' versus 'enough'." - Nate Green.

Have a look at the free S2B program, from the guys at Precision Nutrition (http://www.precisionnutrition.com) it's a free program and you can quite easily tailor it to be more 'paleo' with the food choices.

So to answer your questions, 1 cup of sweet potato is around 40g of carbohydrate and about 180kcals. I personally try and eat around 3 to 4 cups post-workout last meal of the day. So it would be beneficial going for at least 4 cups of starchy-vegetable per day or go the fat route.

But the only issue I suppose with fat is the Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio which can become an issue if you are guzzling nuts.

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on March 12, 2013
at 05:28 PM

I eat over 200g of carbs from rice and fruit every day and I noticed that I had lost a pound since last I checked. A caloric surplus is what produces weight gain, not a particular macronutrient ratio. If you want that surplus to be more toward LBM than fat, you'd want those calories to be more from carbohydrates than fat.

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on March 12, 2013
at 06:11 PM

+1, and also that I think (depending on the level of surplus you're trying to achieve) it would be pretty difficult to do without carbs, e.g. a cup of spinach is 6 calories and a cup of rice is 200.

37cc142fbb183f2758ef723a192e7a9d

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on March 13, 2013
at 02:48 AM

I do it mostly with fruit carbs, like bananas and dates.

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on March 12, 2013
at 04:44 PM

I feel your pain. I also feel more carbs make me feel hungrier, but I am having the same trouble. In fact, despite joining a gym, working out, and trying to eat more, well I've actually lost weight. Some that is probably due to stress, and maybe some of it is okay because body recomposition will sometimes mean more muscle, less fat, and no movement on the scale.

I don't think your target is excessive, especially if you don't have any blood sugar issues. Have you seen all the carb-backloading stuff?

37cc142fbb183f2758ef723a192e7a9d

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on March 13, 2013
at 02:44 AM

Well yes and since not only can I not gain gain weight but tend towards "skinny-fat" as well, carb-loading is probably what I should try.

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on March 12, 2013
at 04:44 PM

Even 200g is only 800 calories. Hard to eat that much on vegetables, for example that would equate to 5 pounds of carrots.

I have the same problem because I am very active physically.

37cc142fbb183f2758ef723a192e7a9d

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on March 13, 2013
at 02:45 AM

well to be honest I eat much more fruit than vegetables (shock horror!) and that's how I manage to get usually 2100-2500.

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on March 12, 2013
at 04:45 PM

I'm also trying to gain weight. I've decided to up my fat calories- so more nuts, fatty meat, coconut oil (cream, etc), and dark chocolate.

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