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Anybody used Nikken water machine? Are they any good?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 12, 2012 at 6:50 PM

A friend of mine recommended Nikken water machine. She said it really helped her.

Right now I am buying bottled water (I know, I know, just don't kill me - I am feeling bad already).

If you know anything about it, please let me know.

Love,

VB

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on April 14, 2012
at 01:25 AM

And, as you can see from the numbers, if you're not remineralizing your RO water, it's really not that much different than distilled water.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on April 14, 2012
at 01:10 AM

Actually, distillation is significantly more effective at removing dissolved content than a reverse osmosis membrane. The conductivity of our cistern water is around 25 microsiemens (uS). Right after the RO membrane and before the mineral cartridge it measures 5 uS (the mineral cartridge kicks it up to 45 uS.) That same cistern water run through my distiller measures .6 uS. I'm not at all suggesting that people drink distilled water, but distillation is in fact one of the few ways to remove fluoride. And, no, carbon filters will NOT remove fluoride.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 13, 2012
at 08:37 PM

*Sigh* Your body will not reject other filtration after drinking Nikken stuff. Furthermore, "taste" is not a good measure for filtration efficacy. Removing the chlorine is one thing (and easy to do - you could even let your water sit out for 30 minutes and it'll dissipate), but when filters are too small and the water only comes in contact with it briefly, it proves to be ineffective against the more concerning contaminants, like chloramine (chlorine/ammonia disinfectant), pesticides, trihalomethanes, pharmaceuticals, etc. My conscience would never let me recommend something like this.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 13, 2012
at 08:30 PM

The 100% removal of fluoride requires a reverse osmosis system. Why in the world you would want to drink distilled water is beyond me. Just horrible misinformation – terrible for your body over time. We are meant to drink mineralized, clean water, just like we're meant to eat paleo. A quality carbon filter will reduce fluoride and metals. You should not be concerned with bacteria unless you are on a well or have old plumbing, or have an immune system issue. The company I mentioned does have ultraviolet disinfection added on to the sink filtration systems, which will kill bacteria.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on April 13, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Distillation also removes fluoride. I've read that the activated alumina fluoride filters aren't as effective at removing fluoride as RO or distillation. Our household water is rain off the roof, and we use RO and remineralization for our drinking water. The reason for using RO is atmospheric mercury pollution.

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on April 13, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Fluoride requires a reverse Osmosis system, or expensive filters.

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on April 12, 2012
at 10:02 PM

Does it remove flouride, metals and bacteria? How much does it cost for the machine and filters?

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Sure thing. There are very few excellent filters out there (just like any product, there's a lot of junk out there and quality is now a rarity). My favorite one is Environmental Water Systems (made in the USA, handmade, seriously amazing quality) - I have their whole house filter and their drinking water filter system. I replace the filters on the drinking water system only once every 1 - 1 1/2 years, and the whole house filter has a 10-year lifespan, so I have lots of time left on that one.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Oh yeah and I only replace the filters on the drinking water system once every 1 - 1 1/2 years, and the whole house filter has a 10-year lifespan, so I have lots of time left on that one.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Yes, there are very few excellent filters out there (just like any product, there's a lot of junk out there and quality is now a rarity). My favorite one is Environmental Water Systems (made in the USA, handmade, seriously amazing quality) - I have their whole house filter and their drinking water filter system.

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on April 12, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Can you recommend anything? Thanks!!!

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on April 13, 2012
at 01:28 PM

I use the PI Mag water system from Nikken since many months and I cannot miss it.It is true that I am distributor Nikken but this is an objective opinion. The taste as well the quality make after few months that your body will reject other type of bottle of filtration. Regarding the replacing of the filter it is advised every 6 months or 2000L. Whatever your choice or brand name change the filter at time otherwise you get the opposite effect and it becomes harmful.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 13, 2012
at 08:37 PM

*Sigh* Your body will not reject other filtration after drinking Nikken stuff. Furthermore, "taste" is not a good measure for filtration efficacy. Removing the chlorine is one thing (and easy to do - you could even let your water sit out for 30 minutes and it'll dissipate), but when filters are too small and the water only comes in contact with it briefly, it proves to be ineffective against the more concerning contaminants, like chloramine (chlorine/ammonia disinfectant), pesticides, trihalomethanes, pharmaceuticals, etc. My conscience would never let me recommend something like this.

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D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 07:29 PM

Oh boy...you're better off getting a real water filtration system. Something that uses full bed-depth filters and doesn't need to be replaced every 2 months, and preferably something that has multiple stages. There's so much junk in our tap water ??? chlorine (or chloramine, if you're in one of the unlucky districts that use it), all the chlorine by-products, pesticides, pharmaceuticals, etc. "Cute" little filters like this are fine if you're on tested, perfect well water (but then, why would you need this) or if you have a real water filter take care of your water before this little guy gets it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Can you recommend anything? Thanks!!!

11838116de44ae449df0563f09bd3d73

(655)

on April 13, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Fluoride requires a reverse Osmosis system, or expensive filters.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Sure thing. There are very few excellent filters out there (just like any product, there's a lot of junk out there and quality is now a rarity). My favorite one is Environmental Water Systems (made in the USA, handmade, seriously amazing quality) - I have their whole house filter and their drinking water filter system. I replace the filters on the drinking water system only once every 1 - 1 1/2 years, and the whole house filter has a 10-year lifespan, so I have lots of time left on that one.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on April 14, 2012
at 01:25 AM

And, as you can see from the numbers, if you're not remineralizing your RO water, it's really not that much different than distilled water.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on April 13, 2012
at 01:42 PM

Distillation also removes fluoride. I've read that the activated alumina fluoride filters aren't as effective at removing fluoride as RO or distillation. Our household water is rain off the roof, and we use RO and remineralization for our drinking water. The reason for using RO is atmospheric mercury pollution.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Yes, there are very few excellent filters out there (just like any product, there's a lot of junk out there and quality is now a rarity). My favorite one is Environmental Water Systems (made in the USA, handmade, seriously amazing quality) - I have their whole house filter and their drinking water filter system.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on April 12, 2012
at 10:02 PM

Does it remove flouride, metals and bacteria? How much does it cost for the machine and filters?

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 12, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Oh yeah and I only replace the filters on the drinking water system once every 1 - 1 1/2 years, and the whole house filter has a 10-year lifespan, so I have lots of time left on that one.

D811808d3bfa5aebc7a1bd971fb6375b

on April 13, 2012
at 08:30 PM

The 100% removal of fluoride requires a reverse osmosis system. Why in the world you would want to drink distilled water is beyond me. Just horrible misinformation – terrible for your body over time. We are meant to drink mineralized, clean water, just like we're meant to eat paleo. A quality carbon filter will reduce fluoride and metals. You should not be concerned with bacteria unless you are on a well or have old plumbing, or have an immune system issue. The company I mentioned does have ultraviolet disinfection added on to the sink filtration systems, which will kill bacteria.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on April 14, 2012
at 01:10 AM

Actually, distillation is significantly more effective at removing dissolved content than a reverse osmosis membrane. The conductivity of our cistern water is around 25 microsiemens (uS). Right after the RO membrane and before the mineral cartridge it measures 5 uS (the mineral cartridge kicks it up to 45 uS.) That same cistern water run through my distiller measures .6 uS. I'm not at all suggesting that people drink distilled water, but distillation is in fact one of the few ways to remove fluoride. And, no, carbon filters will NOT remove fluoride.

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