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No desire to eat.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 13, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Okay I know this sounds like a stupid question, but one of the side effects that I have while on a vlc and moderate protein paleo diet is that I simply lose much of a desire to eat at all. On Atkins, there is a whole plethora of 'convenience' foods available to you, so you can sort of force yourself to eat something every 4-6 hours, but on paleo, I find that only things I want to eat at all are hot fresh off the grill meat, and only then do I bother with veggies. But I have to reach a point of physiological hunger (rather than psychological) before my need to eat outweighs my not giving a crap and not wanting to bother spending 20 minutes cooking again. Sometimes I can go a day or more before wanting to eat at all.

In the short run, I know this is good for burning body fat, but in the long run, I think its probably bad for maintaining lean body mass and getting my metabolism going.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to keep the desire to eat every 6 hours or so alive while doing this?

D89511137c1849427593b3ef172578cb

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on October 13, 2011
at 02:24 PM

There can be a problem with IF if you're not completely healthy. I'd like to say "eat when you're hungry" but in my case, I would probably only eat once or twice a day - which is dangerous for someone with even the slightest of health issues (poor sleep, low thyroid, cortisol issues, underweight etc). In my case I'm underweight and have a couple of other health issues. If all I did was "listen" to my stomach I would reach dangerously low weight levels and further compromise sleep, adrenal and thyroid. If all is well with you, then give it a go and eat only when you're hungry then.

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on October 13, 2011
at 01:53 PM

canned fish is a convenience food :)

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on October 13, 2011
at 01:45 PM

I have the same problem! I never feel hungry any more, and I get way fewer munchie cravings, which is great, but I also never have rumbling tummy at lunch or dinner. I never feel like I HAVE to eat. Even if I take a low cal or IF day, I'm still only mildly interested in breakfast the next day.

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on October 13, 2011
at 01:19 PM

doesn't matter with the frequency. just get the cals in daily. if you work out hard or your job is really physical then id be sure to have fuel in you before you do those but it seems from your question that that isnt a concern

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on October 13, 2011
at 11:58 AM

There's no problem with intermittent fasting (eating once a day)- no need whatsoever to eat every few hours to 'keep your metabolism up.' There are lots of benefits to minimising the amount of time you spend in a post-prandial state.

As to avoiding inadvertent calorie restriction- which is a potential problem- just force yourself to eat enough when you do have a meal and eat a bit of glucose if you're really worried about your metabolism. So long as you're eating enough protein to maintain nitrogen balance (which is a pretty low amount) there's no reason why you should lose lean mass.

D89511137c1849427593b3ef172578cb

(395)

on October 13, 2011
at 02:24 PM

There can be a problem with IF if you're not completely healthy. I'd like to say "eat when you're hungry" but in my case, I would probably only eat once or twice a day - which is dangerous for someone with even the slightest of health issues (poor sleep, low thyroid, cortisol issues, underweight etc). In my case I'm underweight and have a couple of other health issues. If all I did was "listen" to my stomach I would reach dangerously low weight levels and further compromise sleep, adrenal and thyroid. If all is well with you, then give it a go and eat only when you're hungry then.

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on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

Honestly, one of the things I've learned that has been the most helpful to me is to 'eat when you're hungry' -- I spent a lot of time trying to balance the activity level in my daily life with my nutritional needs, and it was sort of spastic for a long time... until I started working on that one last piece... getting rid of regular meal times, and eating good, whole, hand-made food when I got hungry (or as close to it as I could manage).

If your body needs food, it is GOING to tell you. No doubt about it. If your body hasn't been effective in saying "I'm hungry" before, once you stop looking at a clock or trying to fit in a certain number of calories a day, it will DEFINITELY tell you it's hungry. If you're underweight or unhealthy, your body, given the opportunity, will direct you to exactly what you need to fill that void (provided that you don't break down and just grab whatever junk food happens to be outside the car window).

The human body is surprisingly adaptive, and some days, I get hungry a couple of times a day. Sometimes, I don't get hungry for well -over- a day... and that's OK, too -- if I look back, those days usually come after I've had a couple of days of high-protein, high-fat eating... so I've probably got a bit of reserve nutrients. Some days, all I want are green leafy veggies -- not often, but it does happen. Some days, I want a big slab of liver, cooked in rendered lard, and if there wasn't a veggie in sight, I wouldn't cry a bit.

It takes some trust -- we have to believe that somewhere in there is an inherent "wisdom" that will tell us what we need, given a healthy selection of things to choose from. But it's been my experience that our body -does- know, if we just give it credit for its own inherent wisdom, and stop looking at food like a regimented 'process' that we have to weigh, measure, calculate, and obsess over. JMTC, for whatever they're worth.

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on October 13, 2011
at 11:39 AM

Interesting. The Paleo lifestyle realizes food supply changed from time to time and I think Sisson, or another similar author says it's fine to fast for a while. It isn't even required to eat at the same time every day. That is a much more modern mind-set. Atkins foods are soy based with sucrolose. I never recommend them. They never let you get over a carb addiction or sweet tooth. Good way to make sales, make you stay hungry. LOL. I would think your appetite would change based on your fitness activities.

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on October 13, 2011
at 03:02 PM

i used to eat every 2-3hrs; it would be a meal, snack, meal, snack, meal, and then snack (30min before bed). and it went on for YEARS, but once i've gone more paleo and put in enough fat intake, cravings were gone and i was more satiated and suddenly find myself only eating a small breakfast and 2 meals, sometimes even just one (6hrs apart). then i realized i had already developed an oral fixation/addiction problem lol without cravings/hunger or anything i still wanted to chew; it was just like how some people try to quite smoking and it's hard not just because of the chemical addiction but ALSO because of the oral fixation/addiction! took my a week to get used to it.

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on October 13, 2011
at 01:21 PM

I like the responses above, and don't have much to add other than a question. What else is going on in your life?

In my experience of going paleo, I've found the diminished appetite quite startling. I used to eat about a 3500 calorie / day diet, and I'm active enough to maintain that. Replacing carbs with fat and protein meant better sources of energy, and significantly less eating.

I asked my question because I found that stress plays a role. If I'm too busy or too stressed, I won't eat until I absolutely have to out of physical need. While my appetite may be diminished, unhealthy levels of stress diminish it even further. If you have a pretty busy or stressed typical day, that might play a role.

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93ae9f2d376e5426e891a9b58d8302fa

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on October 13, 2011
at 02:13 PM

Sounds like you got a clock in your stomach. Go get an X-ray immediately, see if it can be pumped out. Pray to god it ain't one of the big old wind-up jobs that require surgical removal.

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