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Is there an optimal time of day to take vitamin D and fish oil? And how much?

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Created June 10, 2011 at 3:53 AM

The title is pretty self-explanatory. I've been taking 1-3 1000 IU vitamin D capsules along with 2 fish oil capsules in the mornings. How much vitamin D should I be taking? I live in Hawaii but dont spend extended periods (over an hour) outside on a regular basis. What does vitamin D even do? My dad ordered it along with my fish oils and I read on here that a lot of people take it. How much fish oil if my primary goal is mood? I've been taking 2000 mg of Nordic naturals complete omega.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on June 08, 2013
at 03:43 PM

"take it in the morning" would be another way to say this. :-)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on June 11, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Omega Index. It's offered by Dr. em, something.

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at 04:13 PM

Meredith, I believe it's not that simple. % of body exposure, "power" of the sun, location, ...

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on June 11, 2011
at 07:51 AM

I speculate that our ancestors may have taken refuge in the shade during the hottest time of the day. I reckon you can't really go wrong with a midday dosage of vitD to average out a days morning and afternoon sun though!

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on June 11, 2011
at 05:32 AM

Thanks, Danielle; I wish you luck with mood improvement, too. Josh, that's very inspiring; good for you and your son.

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on June 10, 2011
at 11:03 PM

I'm glad for your experience but your experience doesn't negate my comments.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on June 10, 2011
at 10:46 PM

You gotta be kidding me. I take a few Vitamin D caps, find out that by doing so I can effing BREATHE WITHOUT A CHEMICAL INHALER, and you're going to bark at me that I'm obsessive? Words fail me.

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

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on June 10, 2011
at 10:29 PM

...then shovel those pills down. Phew, what a punishing bunch. I really do enjoy the obsessiveness on this site.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on June 10, 2011
at 10:04 PM

Four pounds of salmon = ~20,000 IU. -- 200 egg yolks = ~20,000 IU. -- 200 cups heavy cream = ~20,000 IU. -- Twenty minutes noonday sunshine = ~20,000 IU. -- Being able to breathe = priceless.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 10:03 PM

Four pounds of salmon = ~20,000 IU 200 egg yolks = ~20,000 IU 200 cups heavy cream = ~20,000 IU Twenty minutes noonday sunshine = ~20,000 IU Being able to breathe = priceless

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

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on June 10, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Lard, egg yolks, fatty fish,shellfish, butter, organ meats, fat of pastured animals are all sources of natural vitamin D. Vitamin D from sunlight varies depending on the time of day, time of year and where you are on the globe...quite variable and not dependable

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on June 10, 2011
at 03:29 PM

Perhaps I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Vitamin D3 is not really obtainable in sufficient quantities from any food source. It's a sunlight thing. And I know a lot of us would like to quit our jobs and be outdoors all day, but I don't see that getting much traction as a mass movement. Although with this economy, perhaps there will be some involuntary outdoorsiness, ya know?

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on June 10, 2011
at 02:01 PM

Thanks for asking this. Sometimes I forget my D until after dinner. I wondered if it was silly to take it then since I'd be naturally getting it from sunlight. So I thought taking it then it would upset my natural balance. BTW- 30 mins in the sun = 10,0000 IU of D. Check out this site if you already haven't - this guy has a lot of information here (this doesn't link directly to his D stuff, but he talks bout it a lot) - http://www.wellnessresources.com/classes.php and all of his podcasts are archived here - http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/70365

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on June 10, 2011
at 01:25 PM

Good point re asthma - my son (who is 14 now) was born with asthma & eczema, he has been on different drug for most of his life. We went paleo about a year ago, I started giving him vit D every day and now his asthma & eczema have all but vanished.

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:33 AM

oops! http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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at 06:27 AM

Interesting, thanks! I drink a smoothie with coconut milk for breakfast so it sounds like I'm on the right track!

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at 06:26 AM

Wow what a great testimony! I'm glad your asthma ha disappeared :-)

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at 06:25 AM

Thanks for your answer, Leanne. What is the link to the calculator?

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E77847ff8cc79e3948be4f99cf3bf291

on June 08, 2013
at 02:16 PM

Take the Vitamin D supplement before sunset. Taking D after sunset disrupts melatonin production, since Vitamin D is a "sunshine vitamin" and melatonin is only produced in the brain when night when its dark - you can see why there would be a conflict. Especially that biologically we did not take synthetic vitamins supplements - that makes timing even more important to match our circadian rhythm . The best advice I can give is to lie down butt naked in the sun for 15 minutes

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on June 08, 2013
at 03:43 PM

"take it in the morning" would be another way to say this. :-)

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3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 05:05 AM

There's a thread over on the Active Low Carbers forum called "The Great Vitamin D Experiment." Those folks have been going at it since 2004, I believe, and have compiled all kinds of personal experience and research data into a very extensive thread. They recommend that whether you take it in one dose or more, you do it before 4pm (or whatever your day's schedule equivalent is), because closer than that to bedtime can cause sleeplessness.

It's called a vitamin but it's really a hormone, or technically, a hormone precursor. Vitamin D deficiency has been associated with a wide range of disorders; it's the established cause of rickets (which is on the rise again), and in the last decade or so a slew of promising research has tentatively connected it with cancer, with asthma, and even with diabetes, MS, and schizophrenia.

I was unaware of the asthma connection myself until just a few weeks ago. I started taking D3 (10,000 IU/day) because I was following the cancer research, and both my biological parents died of cancer. I don't get out in the sun much at all, so I thought it wouldn't kill me to start dosing up. To my shock and amazement, the last vestiges of my asthma virtually disappeared -- I haven't used my rescue inhaler since May 22. The only change I've made is the D3, so I Googled asthma and D3 and was happily rewarded. The connection isn't settled, but it's looking mighty promising. And my personal results seem to support it, so I'm feeling a little evangelical. :)

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:26 AM

Wow what a great testimony! I'm glad your asthma ha disappeared :-)

66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

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on June 10, 2011
at 01:25 PM

Good point re asthma - my son (who is 14 now) was born with asthma & eczema, he has been on different drug for most of his life. We went paleo about a year ago, I started giving him vit D every day and now his asthma & eczema have all but vanished.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 11, 2011
at 05:32 AM

Thanks, Danielle; I wish you luck with mood improvement, too. Josh, that's very inspiring; good for you and your son.

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Eb2d0a3a9b3d909d62b479a0af24d431

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on June 11, 2011
at 07:24 AM

I take my D3 with my lunch. Using the paleo perspective, I would assume that would be when our ancestors would have gotten the majority of their vitamin D.

535fafe8afe6923870905c707c4f4454

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on June 11, 2011
at 07:51 AM

I speculate that our ancestors may have taken refuge in the shade during the hottest time of the day. I reckon you can't really go wrong with a midday dosage of vitD to average out a days morning and afternoon sun though!

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:47 AM

Robb Wolf recommended (in his book) to take your vitamin D first thing in the morning with a meal containing fat. I take 2 x 2500 IU D3 gel caps daily. I believe robb's recommendation is 2000 - 5000 IU daily depending on your exposure to sun and other needs. I think most people experiment with dosage until they find a dosage that feels optimal for them.

I normally take my fish oil with my morning meal, but people who take tons of it in pill form often divide them between all of their meals for the day. Here's a great calculator for finding out how much fish oil to take per day. If you take a lot, then you're best off with the liquid form as far as convenience and minimizing annoyance. If you eat all grass fed meats and/or wild fish (and ideally eggs from happy chickens also), then you'll need less (perhaps none). You can get a lipid profile (don't remember the exact name of the test), that shows what your n6:n3 ratio is to see if you need any at all, but it's fairly costly I believe.

C23ec4b85f3cbeb9ddf6bf78317d56e3

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:33 AM

oops! http://whole9life.com/fish-oil/

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:25 AM

Thanks for your answer, Leanne. What is the link to the calculator?

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on June 11, 2011
at 04:16 PM

Omega Index. It's offered by Dr. em, something.

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66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

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on June 10, 2011
at 04:26 AM

Don't know about optimal but I take 5000IU vit D and 1TB fish oil every morning with breakfast, since my breakfast always has some fat in it & these vitamins are fat soluble so I figure they may absorb better if taken with fat.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

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on June 10, 2011
at 06:27 AM

Interesting, thanks! I drink a smoothie with coconut milk for breakfast so it sounds like I'm on the right track!

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3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

on June 10, 2011
at 02:26 PM

Get it from food...if anybody should be getting their nutrition from food it would be the people on this site. This species didn't evolve taking supplements and if you think a "nutrient" synthesized in a lab/factory is going to be giving you all the naturally present and necessary constituents you are mistaken.

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

(1290)

on June 10, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Lard, egg yolks, fatty fish,shellfish, butter, organ meats, fat of pastured animals are all sources of natural vitamin D. Vitamin D from sunlight varies depending on the time of day, time of year and where you are on the globe...quite variable and not dependable

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 10:03 PM

Four pounds of salmon = ~20,000 IU 200 egg yolks = ~20,000 IU 200 cups heavy cream = ~20,000 IU Twenty minutes noonday sunshine = ~20,000 IU Being able to breathe = priceless

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

(1290)

on June 10, 2011
at 10:29 PM

...then shovel those pills down. Phew, what a punishing bunch. I really do enjoy the obsessiveness on this site.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 03:29 PM

Perhaps I'm wrong, but my understanding is that Vitamin D3 is not really obtainable in sufficient quantities from any food source. It's a sunlight thing. And I know a lot of us would like to quit our jobs and be outdoors all day, but I don't see that getting much traction as a mass movement. Although with this economy, perhaps there will be some involuntary outdoorsiness, ya know?

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 10:46 PM

You gotta be kidding me. I take a few Vitamin D caps, find out that by doing so I can effing BREATHE WITHOUT A CHEMICAL INHALER, and you're going to bark at me that I'm obsessive? Words fail me.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on June 10, 2011
at 10:04 PM

Four pounds of salmon = ~20,000 IU. -- 200 egg yolks = ~20,000 IU. -- 200 cups heavy cream = ~20,000 IU. -- Twenty minutes noonday sunshine = ~20,000 IU. -- Being able to breathe = priceless.

3c997ffae3db9464325b96979346d9e9

(1290)

on June 10, 2011
at 11:03 PM

I'm glad for your experience but your experience doesn't negate my comments.

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