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Do you follow your doctor's traditional recommendations regarding your baby?

Commented on August 26, 2014
Created August 25, 2014 at 3:36 AM

The first minute after birth our physician wanted to give our baby a shot of vitamin K. We declined. Supposedly all babies (in Sweden) get that. During the first year they will give several shots of vaccine. Our baby got her first shots and cried hysterically in a way she never has done before or since. Within the first year babies are supposed to start taking vitamin D drops. Babies are also strongly advised against being in sun light. So how do you feel about this things? Feel free to add additional things that are non-paleo of which you have thoughts on.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 25, 2014
at 05:52 PM

The measels epidemic that is sweeping through the US this year is another case where people who refuse vaccinations (despite all of the evidence of efficacy, and no evidence of brainwashing/ autism/ zombism) are putting the general public at risk.  Mutated viruses that were once near extinction are now infecting children who were vaccinated.

 

Life expectancy at birth had been stable at ~40 years since the paleolithic.  In 1900 that began to change. By 1950 it was 67, By 1990 it was 73 and in 2014 it is expected to hit 78.  This is due, in large part, to modern medicine (including vacinations) and modern sanitation.  Not vaccinating your child is not just a personal decision -- it effect the general public.

 

The reason that children are not vaccinated until 4-6 months is that your wife's anti-boides (from when she was vaccinated) are present for the first 6 months of a child's life. 

 

Vitamin K is non-controversial.  Read about the vitamin K deficient children in Nashville, then make your decision.  Yes, only 6 out of 100,000 children have vitamin K deficency, however is it worth it for an infant to be left with gross motor deficencies becuase you refused a safe, non-toxic treatment?

 

As for Vitamin D, this is highly dependant based on your location.  In HG times, mothers were exposed to sunlight, generated vitamin D, and passed it to their children via breast milk.  In northern locations, exentsive studies have shown that most women do not produce enought vitamin D to meet their and their children's needs.  Thus a safe, low dosage of vitamin D is sufficent and safe to supplement.

 

None of these are particuarly controversial.  Do the research and decide for youself -- your doctor already has.

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on August 25, 2014
at 02:01 PM

You shouldn't decline the vitamin K shots for your baby, unless you want to be nominated for the Darwin awards. Vitamin K shots are necessary because not all newborns have sufficient Vitamin K when they are born, this deficiency could lead to internal bleeding, usually in the intestines or brain. Needless to say, if your child has internal bleeding this could be a very serious condition, specially in the brain since this could lead to serious brain damage resulting in death, paralysis, learning disabilities, etc. 

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 25, 2014
at 05:53 PM

amazes me sometimes when people rail against the "bad science" that has left us with Ancel Keyes nutrition education -- yet accept quakery in other forms without scrutiny. 

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on August 25, 2014
at 09:13 PM

We are having cases of pertusis in my county and even a few deaths.  WHY?  Because there is a high population of priviledged white people who consider themselves natural and who listen to a tv starlet saying that the vaccine against pertusis will cause autism, with no scientific evidence whatsoever.  The problem is that if you don't vaccinate YOUR child, he or she may have a mild or even a bad case of pertusis and be fine, but his classmate may pick up the bug from your child and carry it home to his baby sister, who is too young to be vaccinated.  The deaths have been infants.

Before vaccinations, children died or were seriously impaired for the rest of their life.  If a natural diet and natural immunity were enough, we wouldn't have seen the deaths and injuries that used to occur before vaccines became available.  Anyone old enough here to remember polio epidemics? 

When I was a child we moved to the island of Okinawa where thyphoid, typhus, yellow fever, smallpox and cholera were still active diseases.  I had to be vaccinated for all of them.  I was sick as a dog after every round of vaccination--high fevers, terrible aches and pains.  But my parents were smart enough to know that whatever I had to suffer with the vaccines was not much compared to these diseases.  Thanks to vaccinations, we've virtually wiped out smallpox in the world, and are very close with polio, too.

The reason polio still happens is the small minded political regimes who mistrust Western medicine entirely.  Don't act like them. 

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on August 25, 2014
at 01:34 PM

As you are in Sweden, I'd definitely do the vitamin D, on top of sunlight. If you go on holiday somewhere sunnier, be really careful she doesn't get sunburnt.

If it were my child, I would probably do the shots as well, though I would probably research which drugs she gets. Try giving her something sweet (pineapple juice?) before and after the shots, it might help with the pain.

If you are breastfeeding, your doctor may think your baby is not 'thriving'. For breastfed babies, you need to use different weight/growth charts than for formula fed babies.

Best wishes!

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on August 25, 2014
at 04:26 AM

There are a few situations where doctors can help your baby - even save their lives. Aside from that I have little faith in doctors' recommendations. Especially when it comes to babies. People successfully raised babies since the dawn of our species but remember - infant mortality has declined dramatically. How much of that can be attributed to doctors is anyone's guess.

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on August 25, 2014
at 09:48 PM

All of it? 

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 26, 2014
at 01:49 AM

according to "Journal of Midwifery & Women’s Health", Home-birth neonatal mortality rates (2004-2009) were 1.61 per 1000 with a population that is 92.3% white (lowest risk group).

 

according to CDC Wonder, hostpital neonatal mortality rates (2005-2010) in the US is .38 per 1000 for the entire population.

 

When you change the statistics to a certified nurse practictioner at a hospital (this then assumes doctor oversight), the mortality rate drops to .37 per 1000 (CDC Wonder is an amazing tool!)

 

That's a 400% more neonatal deaths for home-births with a midwife compared to a hospital.  That is despite the fact that the lowest risk group (white, higher income bracket) are choosing midwifes.  And the highest risk group (breeched, mother drug use, hyper-tension, etc) choose hospitals.  When you go to a hotpital, and eliminate high-risk the rate is essentially the same as doctors when you include all the high-risk groups.

 

With my first child, my wife and I thought about a midwife and a home birth.  When I started to research the statistics, it was clear that even a bias source (like the Journal of Midwifery & Women’s Health) was showing significant increase in infant motality -- We changed our mind quickly.

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