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Vitamin C Tolerance reached

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I recently decided to experiment with taking some high doses of vitmin C primarily because of what I've read on Paleo Hacks. I started upping my dose yesterday. I did 3x2g with the intention of going to 4x2g the following day.

Well, let's just say that from 1am to 2am I was alerted to the fact that I had crossed that tolerance threshold.

6g seems low given some hackers taking upwards of 15g per day. I know tolerance differs, but is 5-6g a normal threshold level for C (powdered ascorbic acid), or is there an adjustment period for increased acidity in the gut? Or maybe I just jumped in with too high a dose right off the bat. I'm planning on dropping down to 4x1g. Recommendations?

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:21 PM

No, you don't have to eat at all, unless you have some kind of ulcer. --majkinetor

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:20 PM

Because we evolved with it, right ? All animals based main architechture on it, and even some fungus. And because those who opt for it find its amazing. And because IV vitamin C can heal from fatal things like snake or spider bite. -- majkinetor

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:19 PM

Because we evolved with it, right ? All animals based main architechture on it, and even some fungus. Its an very old molecule in the basis of almost e --majkinetor

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

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on November 12, 2011
at 03:01 PM

Maj, thanks for chiming in. I'm not having any GI issues with 1g doses so far. Your posts on this topic have been very informative.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Even with the proof that the foods we eat today have substantially less vitamin and mineral content than the same foods our ancestors ate, combined with living in a much more toxic environment? I think supplementation, obviously combined with sound nutrition, gives us a much better chance for optimal health.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:57 PM

Why do we need to "simulate" endogenous vitamin C production? It's interesting where a single differing premise can lead.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:55 PM

No, I'm not against all supplementation, even though it is a neolithic phenomenon. Realistically, it hasn't borne out yet that it's all that effective for anything.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 12, 2011
at 08:58 AM

@Matt: You really need to learn more about evolution.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 12, 2011
at 08:57 AM

Matt thinks everything is available on the farm in the right quantity :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 12, 2011
at 08:56 AM

Namby, there is no big detriment in taking lot of C without building it up. You will tolerate it better with more usage so if side effects trouble you, its wise to practice gradual approach.

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on November 12, 2011
at 05:05 AM

& some people find the Calcium Ascorbate (aka Ester-C) form easier on the stomach

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:23 AM

Good suggestions Travis. Much appreciated.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:23 AM

Thanks Namby. This wouldn't be the first time my exuberance trumped my common sense.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:22 AM

Matt, I take it you are against all supplements?

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on November 12, 2011
at 12:11 AM

Yeah, that's why I said "simulate."

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:06 AM

Real human guinea pigs don't just eat, they supplement. To the extreme!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:04 AM

You're correct, humans don't. Though some folks want to second guess evolution apparently.

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on November 11, 2011
at 11:52 PM

I thought humans couldn't make Vitamin C.

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on November 11, 2011
at 10:40 PM

You need to build it up. It's crazy to go from no supplement to 6g per day and then to 8g the next day. I've been taking 500mg for 4 months. Then 1g for 2 months. Then 1.5g for a month. Now I'm on 2g. Unless you have scurvy, you don't start taking 6g cold turkey. That's common sense.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 11, 2011
at 10:20 PM

Legitimate question, obviously. Mainly it's just an experiment. Some people have reported great results with energy and cold/flu fighting with doses of vitamin C greater than could be ingested with food alone. I decided to give it a shot during flu season and see how I felt.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 11, 2011
at 10:11 PM

Yup, the bowels were the alert. And there is no sorbitol or additives at all in the powder. Just ascorbic acid.

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on November 11, 2011
at 09:35 PM

does the powder have sorbitol or some such similar thing? that will definitely cause diarrhea at high doses (if in fact that is what your 'alert' consisted of).

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on November 11, 2011
at 09:00 PM

^ The bowels, I imagine

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on November 11, 2011
at 08:56 PM

What alerted you between 1am to 2am?

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on November 12, 2011
at 09:00 AM

Most people reach bowel tolerance between 5 and 15g per day, so your result is perfectly normal. From now on you supplement with 75% of that amount in 3-5 doses per day. You need more on any stress exposure - cellular/physical/mental/whatever.

You are either very healthy in this point of space-time you are now at, or you are a bit more sensitive to vitamin C. In either way nothing is wrong and you will be able to tolerate even more when specific enzymes starts to up regulate.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 03:01 PM

Maj, thanks for chiming in. I'm not having any GI issues with 1g doses so far. Your posts on this topic have been very informative.

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(18635)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:50 AM

what happened to Maj...I missed the memo?

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Medium avatar

on November 11, 2011
at 10:48 PM

Seems like it'd be a better idea to do smaller amounts more frequently in order to simulate endogenous production. I've started to do 1/8th tsp(500 mg) about 10-15 minutes before each meal. If that went well enough and you insisted on more, you could do 500mg here and there between meals etc. Seems like it'd go a lot better. Also seems like diluting the C in more water would cause less of a bowel problem in general.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:11 AM

Yeah, that's why I said "simulate."

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:04 AM

You're correct, humans don't. Though some folks want to second guess evolution apparently.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:23 AM

Good suggestions Travis. Much appreciated.

020053fd576e93d1d8fa20bfb10979b9

(410)

on November 11, 2011
at 11:52 PM

I thought humans couldn't make Vitamin C.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 12, 2011
at 08:58 AM

@Matt: You really need to learn more about evolution.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:57 PM

Why do we need to "simulate" endogenous vitamin C production? It's interesting where a single differing premise can lead.

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:20 PM

Because we evolved with it, right ? All animals based main architechture on it, and even some fungus. And because those who opt for it find its amazing. And because IV vitamin C can heal from fatal things like snake or spider bite. -- majkinetor

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:19 PM

Because we evolved with it, right ? All animals based main architechture on it, and even some fungus. Its an very old molecule in the basis of almost e --majkinetor

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Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

on November 11, 2011
at 09:35 PM

Why not just eat real food? I'm not being snarky -- this is a real question.

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:22 AM

Matt, I take it you are against all supplements?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 12, 2011
at 08:57 AM

Matt thinks everything is available on the farm in the right quantity :)

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 11, 2011
at 10:20 PM

Legitimate question, obviously. Mainly it's just an experiment. Some people have reported great results with energy and cold/flu fighting with doses of vitamin C greater than could be ingested with food alone. I decided to give it a shot during flu season and see how I felt.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:06 AM

Real human guinea pigs don't just eat, they supplement. To the extreme!

Fe87afa634afe26f4f6fd956abe0b46a

(565)

on November 12, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Even with the proof that the foods we eat today have substantially less vitamin and mineral content than the same foods our ancestors ate, combined with living in a much more toxic environment? I think supplementation, obviously combined with sound nutrition, gives us a much better chance for optimal health.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:55 PM

No, I'm not against all supplementation, even though it is a neolithic phenomenon. Realistically, it hasn't borne out yet that it's all that effective for anything.

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(48)

on November 12, 2011
at 12:18 AM

I had a cold recently and upped my Vitamin C to 1000mg every hour. Did that for about 6 hours for 2 days and didn't have a problem. Probably have to eat well on days you do this.

8cdd21051a8dd11a0e3dc8300f36d31d

on November 12, 2011
at 06:21 PM

No, you don't have to eat at all, unless you have some kind of ulcer. --majkinetor

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