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Vinegar and bone density

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 21, 2011 at 12:53 AM

I have been in the practice of consuming approx. 2/3 cup of vinegar per day for the past 3 months. It has yielded increases in energy and a feeling of 'cleanliness'(ie. digestive tract). I recently added lemon juice to the concoction that I consume prior to meals hearing that it would stimulate the production of hydrochloric acid and so facilitate digestion. Usually I consume only a few sips equally approx. 3 tbsps. of vinegar/lemon juice diluted in spring water(probably 125 ml of liquid) and this four times per day minimum. I have noticed that with the addition of the lemon juice I have observed(visually and through other senses-tongue, etc.) that my teeth have worn down to some extent becoming more opaque and less 'calcified', if thats the proper term. In short less dense. I assume tooth enamel is a correct index of bone density under normal conditions so I am wondering if either the lemon juice or vinegar(or both) are decreasing bone density. Note: I am drinking this concoction through a straw so as to avoid contact with the teeth. I had done some research into the drinking of vinegar as an ancient practice in the orient and greece and this led me to include it in the diet. Maybe I should diminish the amount consumed, limit/omit the lemon juice, increase calcium/minerals/vitamins that increase bone mass...or something else...or nothing else? Does anyone have any ideas about the influence of exogenous consumption of acetic/citric acid on bone density?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on July 10, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Not if you eat enough minerals and fatsoluable activators. I eat plenty of acidic foods and I've never had a cavity in my life.

5e92edc5a180787a60a252a8232006e9

(345)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Does Kombucha's acidity harm your teeth? If vinegar destroys tooth enamel, would Kombucha also? If so, woudl the solution be drinking it with a straw?

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:48 PM

I lived in Saint Petersburg, Russia for a short time about 15 years ago, and it wasn't uncommon to see kombucha fermenting in tea on the kitchen counter. So I'm guessing it's not that hard.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Tastes are mostly acculturation. Fermented anything tastes "bad" if you aren't used to it.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:44 PM

If it's helping, it may be because your stomach acid is low, and taking vinegar is helping you digest.

101b3a5c96d313d22262f65bdff20acf

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on March 21, 2011
at 01:23 PM

Second making your own. All you need is the culture, which can be had very cheaply and only needs to be purchased one, sugar to feed it, and tea to grow it in. Pennies to the quart.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

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on March 21, 2011
at 01:07 PM

You can make your own Kombucha...

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:47 AM

I love the way it tastes. :-) Also, I make my own. It's a lot cheaper than buying it at the store. You can buy a SCOBY online and there are a ton of websites and blogs that will teach you how to take care of it. oh well, to each his own.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:32 AM

and it tastes like ass.....dont for get that part.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Sadly the answer is simple: cost/availability. I will be living in a remote Northern Ontario town(my hometown) for the next half year and there are no gourmet dietic aids there. But it will be worth trying when I leave for greener pastures.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:22 AM

Thanks for the info. I believe the theory through personal feeling-states after the concoction: less fatigue/more energy, feeling of well-being. Does the lemon juice exert different effects to your knowledge? I mixed it in on the assumption(not having researched it much...) that it would play a role in the Krebs cycle in generating energy and that it would have similar properties to vinegar(being acidic and all...). Any thoughts. How about deterioration of the joints? I heard somewhere that it would have this affect as well.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:18 AM

So it has the exact opposite effect? Good...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 21, 2011
at 02:10 AM

I am talking about Heinz brand apple cider vinegar and occasionally coconut vinegar from some foreing source. I have intentions of switching to grain-based heinz white vinegar as it is more accessible where I will be going for half a year. Perhaps I am wrong? As to the health aspects, my "researches" led me to believe that it is. Not much contrary to the reasons to use it so...

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on March 21, 2011
at 01:33 AM

good one doc :)

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on March 21, 2011
at 01:10 AM

What kind of vinegar? Vinegar was used by women to lose weight which caused horrible damage to their system. Are you sure it's healthy? Are you talking about apple vinegar by any chance?

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on March 21, 2011
at 01:33 AM

good one doc :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:18 AM

So it has the exact opposite effect? Good...

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76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

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on March 21, 2011
at 01:12 AM

The reason your teeth look worn down and "less calcified" is because vinegar and lemon juice (and other things highly acidic) will destroy your tooth enamel upon contact, especially with the amount you are consuming. Even if you are drinking with a straw, there is no doubt that some will come in contact with your teeth.

If we are to believe the acid/base balance theory (debatable), then vinegar and lemon juice should have a positive or neutral effect on bone density, as I believe they produce alkaline ash after being digested.

Definitely rinse your mouth out with clean water after drinking your concoction.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:22 AM

Thanks for the info. I believe the theory through personal feeling-states after the concoction: less fatigue/more energy, feeling of well-being. Does the lemon juice exert different effects to your knowledge? I mixed it in on the assumption(not having researched it much...) that it would play a role in the Krebs cycle in generating energy and that it would have similar properties to vinegar(being acidic and all...). Any thoughts. How about deterioration of the joints? I heard somewhere that it would have this affect as well.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:44 PM

If it's helping, it may be because your stomach acid is low, and taking vinegar is helping you digest.

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1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on March 21, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Why not try kombucha? It's very acidic like vinegar but has the added benefit of B vitamins, enzymes, and lots of fantastic probiotics which will also aid your digestion. I drink a glass or two a day with any non-raw meal. Also.. it's delicious with a little bit of ginger.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Sadly the answer is simple: cost/availability. I will be living in a remote Northern Ontario town(my hometown) for the next half year and there are no gourmet dietic aids there. But it will be worth trying when I leave for greener pastures.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:32 AM

and it tastes like ass.....dont for get that part.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:47 AM

I love the way it tastes. :-) Also, I make my own. It's a lot cheaper than buying it at the store. You can buy a SCOBY online and there are a ton of websites and blogs that will teach you how to take care of it. oh well, to each his own.

A8d95f3744a7a0885894ee0731c9744c

(3761)

on March 21, 2011
at 01:07 PM

You can make your own Kombucha...

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:48 PM

I lived in Saint Petersburg, Russia for a short time about 15 years ago, and it wasn't uncommon to see kombucha fermenting in tea on the kitchen counter. So I'm guessing it's not that hard.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on March 21, 2011
at 02:46 PM

Tastes are mostly acculturation. Fermented anything tastes "bad" if you aren't used to it.

101b3a5c96d313d22262f65bdff20acf

(539)

on March 21, 2011
at 01:23 PM

Second making your own. All you need is the culture, which can be had very cheaply and only needs to be purchased one, sugar to feed it, and tea to grow it in. Pennies to the quart.

5e92edc5a180787a60a252a8232006e9

(345)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Does Kombucha's acidity harm your teeth? If vinegar destroys tooth enamel, would Kombucha also? If so, woudl the solution be drinking it with a straw?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on July 10, 2012
at 08:31 PM

Not if you eat enough minerals and fatsoluable activators. I eat plenty of acidic foods and I've never had a cavity in my life.

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