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How do you feel about Vegetarians?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 03, 2012 at 12:52 PM

For some reason now, I hate Vegetarians. I have no real reason to hate them, as they can choose to feed themselves how they want. I just can't stand them. With their pasty skin, sickly complexion, swollen bellies, and ho-hum attitudes...

And for some reason I can pick them out of a crowd. Just the other day, there were two in front of me at the grocery store. Cart filled with bread....and soda. They looked like they were going to puke at any moment.

I am sure there are some decent ones out there, that only eat real food vegetables etc. But it seems that the ones I run into consistently are filling themselves with crap.

Perhaps, it is because most of the vegetarians, I had been exposed to in the past, act as if they are connected to a higher power, have a sence of entitlement, and look down on the rest of us with their sagging eyes..

Uff. Anyway, how do you feel about VegHeads? One of my goals, is to never have people feel that way about me.

Would you consider Vegetarians the Nemesis of the paleo community?

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:34 PM

I was waiting for this answer. Thank you Gary.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:32 PM

Most vegetarians don't just eat bread and soda- they eat lots of vegetables and lentils and prefer raw nuts to roasted. At least they are grass fed.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:29 PM

+1 for a great answer. I've got quite a few vegetarians sending me emails and commenting on my blog and while some indeed behave rather rude, most of them are open to thoughtful discussions once they learn the "paleos" think just as much about food choices as they do.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:24 PM

I recommend reading Naipaul as a supportive text for paleo because it gives a good description of vegetarianism exactly like you described. If it's a healthy foods thinking vegetarianism I don't have a big problem as long as it's not preachy anti meat. But when it's meat avoidance combined with a cheap mix of oil, sugar and starch there are multiple problems ahead. I feel sorry for the people stuck on that track.

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:11 PM

Why would you hate someone just because of looks or dietary choices? As long as they don't try to convert you they don't effect you in any way. There are also quite a few paleo zealots that can be as off-putting as those hardcore vegans. Seems like you got a problem within yourself if something like this angers you that much. Better spend that energy on something productive :) ps: No, I'm not a "VegHead" ;)

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on January 03, 2012
at 12:59 PM

I think that vegetarians/vegans are rather more similar to "paleos" (for lack of a better term) than those who don't care about what they eat (or if they do, they don't do anything about it).

I give credit to anyone who has a belief and actually acts on it, at least they are displaying a degree of integrity that is uncommon to say the least.

Of course, I personally disagree with most, if not all, of the tenets of vegan/vegetarianism and think that it is simply a matter of education before people start to realize that the health of the planet, the health of other animal species, and the health of the human race is predicated on the wise stewardship of all food resources, both animal and vegetable.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:29 PM

+1 for a great answer. I've got quite a few vegetarians sending me emails and commenting on my blog and while some indeed behave rather rude, most of them are open to thoughtful discussions once they learn the "paleos" think just as much about food choices as they do.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:29 PM

I quite like vegetarians...but I couldn't eat a whole one.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:34 PM

I was waiting for this answer. Thank you Gary.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:00 PM

I think part of what drives people nuts about vegetarians is the idea that, whatever they're thinking/doing at every given moment is somehow a constant, unremitting judgment on others not doing the same thing. It's sort of like why some folks tend to hate on the gays, because they think that every gay person ever must secretly be crushing on them and/or wanting to "convert" them at all times.

Two thoughts:

(a) It is like the gay metaphor because, honestly, most people just don't care that much what other people are doing. At any given moment a vegetarian is probably not thinking about you at all. Really, you're staring into their shopping cart but, honestly, they probably aren't staring into yours. So, there's that. Stop thinking about them too if you find it so bothersome.

(b) It's unlike the gay metaphor because, on a larger scale, many vegetarians very much do care what others in the world (generally others, not specifically you) are doing. But you know what? So do Paleos. The fact that so many eat CAFO who can easily not do so? That's bullsh*t, and I do judge (again, generally the world at large, not specific people, since I don't know their circumstances and also don't wander around the world looking for an excuse to discover whether or not someone is eating CAFO).

And what's wrong with that? Let's all have a little belief in something, shall we? Believing in anything is half the struggle, after people start to care, then we get to fight about the details. I'll take a vegan over someone who can't be bothered to care at all any day.

Caveat: I was a whole foods vegan/vegetarian for like a billion years, and very much cared about processed foods, organic foods, sustainable agriculture, etc.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:13 PM

I find they're quite tasty as far as BBQ goes. :)

Oh, sorry, was talking about grassfed Bison. Yeah, live and let live. Look, most of us were on a SAD diet before we went paleo. I'd guess almost zero of us here were fed Paleo foods from birth, so it's a matter of education for both SAD eaters as well as Vegetarians/Vegans. We're all humans, let's treat each other as such and not worry about it, jokes aside.

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:31 PM

One of my goals, is to never have people feel that way about me.

I think by the way you asked your question, you inadvertently Marmited yourself with the same brush.

Sorry.

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:23 PM

I think there is enough uncertainty in the world to cut most groups a lot of slack. And like Robb Wolf, I don't see the value in spending lots of energy arguing with committed vegans ... any more than I would spend a lot of energy arguing politics with my Tea Party-loving father or religion with my evangelical brother.

Ultimately I don't see any good reason to disrespect a vegetarian or vegan who has made their own personal choice ... unless they are disrespecting me first.

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:04 PM

I don't care about them as long as they keep their dogma to themselves. I know some who don't care about what I or other omnivores eat, while there are others who put on an air of moral superiority. I'll only judge them back if I'm on defense.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:50 PM

I discovered, when I was full-on paleo, a very odd sort of peace with the world. It really surprised me, and the only reason I could find for it was the diet. Looking forward to getting back to that space. I found myself having more compassion for everyone.

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on January 03, 2012
at 02:41 PM

I hate an elitest vegetarian as much as I do an elitest paleo. Especially if one hasn't experienced the other diet.

Sure there are many vegetarians and vegans that are malnourished (I certainly was one when I was younger) but there are many who are healthy and some who are serious athletes (Mike Mahler is living proof: http://mikemahler.com)

How healthy is a paleo diet when it's compromised by stupid bitterness over what other people choose to do with themselves?

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on January 03, 2012
at 01:41 PM

Live and let live. Otherwise, whatever. If they want to adopt a suboptimal diet for their morals, whatever. If they want to adopt a suboptimal diet for perceived health reasons, well, sucks to be them, I'd probably try and point them to the correct information (gently). If, however, they're going to argue paleo with me, I won't hold back.

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