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Why are most goths vegetarian/vegan?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 14, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Goths, like myself (an older Goth, not vegetarian), tend to mostly be vegetarian/vegan. We despise hippies, and love bloodsuckers, so why do you think Paleo isn't attractive to Goths?

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on July 15, 2013
at 01:01 AM

I think you may have a great point, here.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 15, 2013
at 12:59 AM

Okay, yes, that makes sense.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 15, 2013
at 12:59 AM

Thank you for this thorough and insightful answer!

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on July 14, 2013
at 09:41 PM

Bauhaus never lacked for cojones.

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on July 14, 2013
at 04:37 AM

At one point being vegetarian was a valid way to tell The Man to go screw himself. Now everybody is talking about flexatarianism and VB6 and so when eating meat is how paleos get their rebellion on.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:31 AM

And the witty prepster award goes to...

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:26 AM

I really don't know much about the Emo subculture, except that it's not the same as goth, and it evolved when I was already an adult, so I really didn't pay much attention to it. As for the poster-child of a modern goth, again, I'm not quite sure, because of all of the new facets and subdivision!

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:09 AM

has the Goth look evolved more than I realize? I remember when an Emo and a Goth looked interchangeable...what's the poster child for someone who's Goth looking now a days?

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Yeah, no, many goths are also vegetarians- at least many of the ones I've encountered in the blog community- my experience isn't backed up by studies or polls :)

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:39 AM

What do you mean?

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on July 14, 2013
at 01:33 AM

Goths were into vegetarianism when it was still underground.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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at 01:25 AM

I don't know what a hipster is anymore, either. What I do know is that this "hipster" kind has adopted my early 1990s wardrobe for fun and fashion. The goth subculture, however, began in the late 1970s. It had nothing to do with diet/health directly, except that you were expected to be emaciated looking.

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don't paleos also share an anti-establishment ethos?

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:51 AM

Hipster and goth are opposites folks!! No idea about the vegetarianism-goth connection though. I thought that was only hippies?

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:57 AM

Yeah, no, many goths are also vegetarians- at least many of the ones I've encountered in the blog community- my experience isn't backed up by studies or polls :)

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on July 14, 2013
at 08:08 AM

I know this question probably seems silly on the surface, but I've actually put more thought than I probably should have into it having been on both sides of this coin. Going back to ye olde gothy days in the 80's and 90's, from my own experience I would say that vegetarianism led to goth, not the other way round. Sun avoidance combined with a vegetarian diet brought out the angst, the mope, the anemia. That combined with not having enough energy for sports and pretty severe social anxiety that was debilitating enough to make team sports a special kind of hell, I would hide under my art teacher's desk during PE and read Anne Rice novels.

  1. I have long thought that there is definite connection between vegetarianism, particularly in young women, who are also dealing with their new sexuality and interest in vampires and such. Forbidden desires abound. I suspect my anemia at the time might have led to my interest reading about vampires, my brain knew more than I was giving it credit for, and screaming at me to eat some red meat. Every time I see a pale teenager with a vegan propaganda t-shirt and copy of Twilight now I want to shake them and say, "I've done this before, trust me it gets better, and the sooner you start eating liver and going out in the sun, the sooner it can get better."

  2. Aesthetics are problematic for paleo lifestyle and goth to mesh. Whether following the guidelines from various health agencies, playing too many online games, sleeping all day and dancing all night, or shunning the sun simply to stay pale...paleo lifestyle and goth/clubbing lifestyle clash pretty severely. It took me years to actually come to terms with being okay with looking healthier after spending more time in the sun, and (gasp) even being tan.

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on July 15, 2013
at 12:59 AM

Thank you for this thorough and insightful answer!

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on July 15, 2013
at 04:18 AM

Things have changed, or differ from place to place I think. When I was a goth (not for very long, but I knew lots of others at the time), I can think of only one who was a vegetarian, and his rationale was that he thought it was cheating for humans to eat animals we don't have the natural ability to hunt bare-handed. All the rest ate meat. Yeah, we wanted to look kind of emaciated but not really. The ideal was to look attractive, but with enough gauntness to bring out facial expressiveness, to make us dramatic. I was actually trying to gain weight. But the junk food we lived on, being night owl types, made most of us fairly bloated in reality. On the vampire-chic topic, I think there are various reasons for it, but part of it is that we really hated being young. We wished we were hundreds of years old so we could be more interesting and know more about the world.

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:25 AM

Pretty sure it's a lack of cojones/ovaries that make goths vegetarian.

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on July 14, 2013
at 09:41 PM

Bauhaus never lacked for cojones.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:31 AM

And the witty prepster award goes to...

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:08 AM

I wasn't aware of a correlation between the two...Goth and Veggies...maybe it's time Goth came to the real dark side?

Honestly, I???m not even sure what a Goth is anymore???pretty sure I saw one the other day and someone just called them a Hipster? I also no longer know what a Hipster is???.

Truth.

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on July 14, 2013
at 02:09 AM

has the Goth look evolved more than I realize? I remember when an Emo and a Goth looked interchangeable...what's the poster child for someone who's Goth looking now a days?

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

(396)

on July 14, 2013
at 01:25 AM

I don't know what a hipster is anymore, either. What I do know is that this "hipster" kind has adopted my early 1990s wardrobe for fun and fashion. The goth subculture, however, began in the late 1970s. It had nothing to do with diet/health directly, except that you were expected to be emaciated looking.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

(396)

on July 14, 2013
at 02:26 AM

I really don't know much about the Emo subculture, except that it's not the same as goth, and it evolved when I was already an adult, so I really didn't pay much attention to it. As for the poster-child of a modern goth, again, I'm not quite sure, because of all of the new facets and subdivision!

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on July 15, 2013
at 04:55 AM

Regarding vampirism, consider that it's humane in a way that meat isn't. The romantic vampire feeds on his or her prey without killing them. In some cases they even seduce the prey and make them a willing victim. And the consummation of the prey relationship isn't death, but eternal life. In some ways, you could see vampirism as an ethical vegan's fantasy about being able to eat meat in an acceptable way.

note: I am completely talking out of my hat here. I know nothing about goths.

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on July 14, 2013
at 07:01 PM

The fact that many people who are Goths believe in tolerance and nonviolence may correlate with veganism. Many of them may believe that killing and eating animals is one of the evils of modern society that they choose to reject. This is my best guess for why many Goths do not eat meat.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 15, 2013
at 01:01 AM

I think you may have a great point, here.

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on July 14, 2013
at 04:57 AM

I'm totally confused as to what hipsters and emos are. I tried asking my teens once but their answers didn't clarify anything for me. A decade ago, goths were people who dressed in black, were sickly looking types. When I was in college several decades ago, we called them Lit Majors/Undertakers. I guess being vegetarians or vegans will eventually make you look sickly because of the lack of B vitamins. The hippies of the 60's worshipped the sun but Goth types were children of the dark, vampire types who avoided the sun. It is ironic that true vampires drink blood, definitely an animal product.

My family and I live in a liberal, progressive, college town so many of my teens' friends are vegetarians or vegans. But many of these kids are not healthy because they don't eat meat and dislike veggies. So, they end up eating only grains and dairy (as in cheese pizza, peanut butter jelly sandwiches, etc.). They are all flabby, short, and temperamental. I wish they would eat meat and veggies every day for better health but their hippie parents are so adamantly against eating flesh, fat, etc. It's crazy. Sorry about the rant.

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:01 AM

I was unaware of this connection. If it is at all true it could be due to the antiestablishmentarianistic attitude of the typical goth personality.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 15, 2013
at 12:59 AM

Okay, yes, that makes sense.

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:39 AM

What do you mean?

721c5da8e761f101e04037e85f6e1236

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on July 14, 2013
at 01:04 AM

don't paleos also share an anti-establishment ethos?

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on July 14, 2013
at 04:37 AM

At one point being vegetarian was a valid way to tell The Man to go screw himself. Now everybody is talking about flexatarianism and VB6 and so when eating meat is how paleos get their rebellion on.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on July 14, 2013
at 01:33 AM

Goths were into vegetarianism when it was still underground.

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on July 15, 2013
at 07:01 AM

[EDIT: obvious offensiveness - nada, you should know better]

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