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Veggies needed for detox from modern life?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 01, 2011 at 10:12 AM

What do you think of Nora Gedgaudas assertion that vegetables and soluble fiber were optional for our ice age predecessors, but are needed for an ongoing detox to deal with modern environmental exposures?

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on September 02, 2011
at 12:03 AM

They obviously switch to a western diet because they enjoy being sick and fat with rotting teeth. Yeah, something IS missing in all that salmon - donuts!! Oak0y, thanks for making me laugh.

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on September 01, 2011
at 09:37 PM

I also have a pet theory that adequate fat consumption combined with adequate hydration could somehow prevent the build up fat soluble toxins in our bodies by keeping the pathways of elimination like our lymphatic system well lubed. Probably way oversimplified, but the idea keeps coming back to me.

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on September 01, 2011
at 09:31 PM

It is in her book in several places, pages 178-179 and 290-293 are the ones that jump out at me at first glance. I know we are exposed to a wider variety of chemicals nowadays, but I wonder if the detox idea is over-hyped, especially since we evolved huffing smoke from wood fires, and few people live and cook in close proximity to open combustion like that now. Could it be our overall exposure to toxins has shifted in variety but not overall burden?

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on September 01, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Oak0y, you need to read about hyperpalatibility and how it subverts our adaptive desires for food. Check out The End of Overeating.

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on September 01, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Why are Inuit craving for modern food if they also could choose to eat a traditional diet? And they even blame the people in their own rows for living in a traditional lifestyle. Something must be missing in a inuit diet what makes people wanna have a chonge to a modern world diet. The same with all people in Western Price book. There is a need for change

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 01, 2011
at 04:37 PM

I feel for my self diet science and medical science can be very controversal. So ethnobotanik and archelogic scince is more clear in some ways. just shift the view. or it also help to go to a different language and thaen have a look. Antioxidant are controversal still they are used to preserve food and medcine. So what? Everything is controversal in the modern world. The only thing what works works.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 04:34 PM

I recommend Plants That We Eat by Anore Jones

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on September 01, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Melissa, if you look for edible plant in the arctic. And what inuit and other arctic tribe eat and ate. You will discover a variety. And this the inuit ate only meat is totaly bias. Yes they ate and still eat mainly meat. And also they usde and use plants which have a different nutrient profile. If you look from a ethnobotanic view on it you probably get more clear on some thing which are very foggy on a biochemistry view or a diet view.

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on September 01, 2011
at 03:24 PM

Hey, we all know that European ice age mammoth hunters were the only people that mattered in the paleolithic... Everyone else was just not doing it properly.

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on September 01, 2011
at 03:22 PM

Ah, OK. I know they both get into the balancing/regulating type language. Still need to watch Don's talk.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 03:20 PM

They are pretty much polar opposites, since Don emphasizes our plant-eating heritage and Nora emphasizes the ice age Europeans. Don emphasizes that plants are healthy because we evolved to eat them. Nora emphasizes that a low-carb keto diet is the optimum and eating plants is only an add-on to enhance your health.

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on September 01, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Since I know you attended and enjoyed Don's talk at AHS, do you think his ideas dovetail with hers?

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on September 01, 2011
at 12:42 PM

Do you have a link to her discussion of this or is it in her book?

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 03:13 PM

I read that book and sold it without reviewing it because it wasn't really bad or good enough to be worth reviewing. It's not very scientific, though it pretends to be by using fancy words and concepts. I looked on Amazon to see where she mentions soluble fiber and she mentions it on page 178, where she says that the Inuit and Ice Age humans ate almost no fiber (wrong) but that their antioxidants and phytonutrients are more important to use than ever. No reference or scientific argument is provided so I can't really comment, but if you search for antioxidants here you will find that they are quite controversial.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 01, 2011
at 04:32 PM

Melissa, if you look for edible plant in the arctic. And what inuit and other arctic tribe eat and ate. You will discover a variety. And this the inuit ate only meat is totaly bias. Yes they ate and still eat mainly meat. And also they usde and use plants which have a different nutrient profile. If you look from a ethnobotanic view on it you probably get more clear on some thing which are very foggy on a biochemistry view or a diet view.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on September 01, 2011
at 03:24 PM

Hey, we all know that European ice age mammoth hunters were the only people that mattered in the paleolithic... Everyone else was just not doing it properly.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 04:34 PM

I recommend Plants That We Eat by Anore Jones

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 01, 2011
at 04:40 PM

Why are Inuit craving for modern food if they also could choose to eat a traditional diet? And they even blame the people in their own rows for living in a traditional lifestyle. Something must be missing in a inuit diet what makes people wanna have a chonge to a modern world diet. The same with all people in Western Price book. There is a need for change

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 03:20 PM

They are pretty much polar opposites, since Don emphasizes our plant-eating heritage and Nora emphasizes the ice age Europeans. Don emphasizes that plants are healthy because we evolved to eat them. Nora emphasizes that a low-carb keto diet is the optimum and eating plants is only an add-on to enhance your health.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on September 01, 2011
at 04:37 PM

I feel for my self diet science and medical science can be very controversal. So ethnobotanik and archelogic scince is more clear in some ways. just shift the view. or it also help to go to a different language and thaen have a look. Antioxidant are controversal still they are used to preserve food and medcine. So what? Everything is controversal in the modern world. The only thing what works works.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on September 01, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Oak0y, you need to read about hyperpalatibility and how it subverts our adaptive desires for food. Check out The End of Overeating.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on September 01, 2011
at 03:16 PM

Since I know you attended and enjoyed Don's talk at AHS, do you think his ideas dovetail with hers?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on September 02, 2011
at 12:03 AM

They obviously switch to a western diet because they enjoy being sick and fat with rotting teeth. Yeah, something IS missing in all that salmon - donuts!! Oak0y, thanks for making me laugh.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on September 01, 2011
at 03:22 PM

Ah, OK. I know they both get into the balancing/regulating type language. Still need to watch Don's talk.

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on September 01, 2011
at 02:05 PM

I really doubt it.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on September 01, 2011
at 01:48 PM

I can understand this argument...especially greens are refreshing ....

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