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Are veggies really necessary and which are best?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 03, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Is there any vegetable that stands head and shoulders above the rest. I am considering following a diet of mainly white potatoes, meat, and fat, but would like to include a few nutrient dense vegetables as well. Which would be best, and is there an ideal vegetable in this context. How do leafy greens, broccoli, and cabbages compare? I am wary of all these choices because while they are nutrient dense, they also contain high levels of antinutrients like goitrogens. Is there any perfect vegetable that satisfies both requirements of nutrient density and low toxicity? Perhaps it is better to avoid eating masses of low calorie greens and obtain most nutrients from animal sources?

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on December 04, 2012
at 03:47 AM

he was being facetious....

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on December 04, 2012
at 03:09 AM

There is a search box, actually.

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on December 04, 2012
at 01:28 AM

You know, Luckie, if only there were a search box -- or a popup that listed those questions as I typed in the name of this question.... that would be great!

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on December 04, 2012
at 12:21 AM

Nice thing about beta carotene in veggies is that our bodies don't convert it all to vitamin A, generally only what we need. It's not a 100% conversion (as the liver fanatics will point out), but it can cover needs ok.

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http://paleohacks.com/questions/26634/vegetables-necessary-in-the-diet#axzz2E2JBZRcp http://paleohacks.com/questions/64322/no-vegetables-on-paleo-is-it-possible-or-unhealthy#axzz2E2JBZRcp http://paleohacks.com/questions/75872/does-anyone-have-information-regarding-the-actual-healthfulness-of-vegetables#axzz2E2JBZRcp http://paleohacks.com/questions/14856/possibility-of-paleo-primal-without-many-vegetables#axzz2E2JBZRcp http://paleohacks.com/questions/152603/best-starchy-vegetable#axzz2E2JBZRcp http://paleohacks.com/questions/152807/least-toxic-vegetable#axzz2E2JBZRcp

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on December 03, 2012
at 11:36 PM

The world would be a lot healthier if kale and spinach overdoses were a problem.

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:11 PM

I mean, red meat is "very high" in iron, but you wouldn't avoid it just in case you "overdose"

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Unless you eat kale (for e.g.) every moment of every day, I wouldn't worry about hypothetical situations like what you described @Andrew.

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Why avoid them? Just don't eat 3 lbs in one sitting.

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:00 PM

Is it possible that spinach and kale are too nutrient dense, afterall they are very high in vitamin A which can supposedly block calcium absorption. This is also the case with sweet potatoes and carrots. Should we avoid these foods based on the overdose of vit A?

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on December 03, 2012
at 08:49 PM

i wish fruit was as nutrient dense as kale

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on December 03, 2012
at 08:18 PM

Also, I rotate mushrooms in (little worry of pesticides) and other vegetables with a thick skin.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on December 03, 2012
at 08:41 PM

Veggies are not technically required to sustain human life; there are no essential phytonutrients. However, in my humble opinion, they are absolutely required to sustain a happy and vibrant life of many meals.

As a culinary vegetable (technically a fruit) I couldn't imagine life without avocados. Similarly, I use coconut products (oil, milk), and coconut is a fruit/drupe.

If you are looking for "powerhouse" vegetables (in terms of vitamins & nutrients), the usual suspects are those dark, leafy greens we all love: kale, spinach, etc.

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Unless you eat kale (for e.g.) every moment of every day, I wouldn't worry about hypothetical situations like what you described @Andrew.

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on December 03, 2012
at 09:00 PM

Is it possible that spinach and kale are too nutrient dense, afterall they are very high in vitamin A which can supposedly block calcium absorption. This is also the case with sweet potatoes and carrots. Should we avoid these foods based on the overdose of vit A?

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on December 03, 2012
at 08:49 PM

i wish fruit was as nutrient dense as kale

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on December 03, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Why avoid them? Just don't eat 3 lbs in one sitting.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on December 04, 2012
at 12:21 AM

Nice thing about beta carotene in veggies is that our bodies don't convert it all to vitamin A, generally only what we need. It's not a 100% conversion (as the liver fanatics will point out), but it can cover needs ok.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on December 03, 2012
at 09:11 PM

I mean, red meat is "very high" in iron, but you wouldn't avoid it just in case you "overdose"

06ca9c524c28bc3fba95d4d90f8f43c6

on December 03, 2012
at 11:36 PM

The world would be a lot healthier if kale and spinach overdoses were a problem.

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78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

on December 03, 2012
at 08:18 PM

I usually rotate between vegetables on the "clean 15" (e.g. asparagus, cabbage) and those low in pesticides and then splurge a little on organic leafy greens. I think plain iceberg lettuce is kind of a waste though.

I don't think there really is the "best" vegetable. Everything has it's pros and cons. I think vegetables do offer something that animal sources don't though, such as fiber.

Get lots of color and variety from the different groups/vegetable families and you'll be okay. Eating seasonally will help you not "overdose" on toxins from overeating a certain vegetable.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

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on December 03, 2012
at 08:18 PM

Also, I rotate mushrooms in (little worry of pesticides) and other vegetables with a thick skin.

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