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Meat cooked in vegetable oil better than eating wheat?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I know it's not ideal, but I don't have full control over all the food I eat and I was just wondering is it better to eat meat cooked with vegetable oil than to be eating bread etc? I have a tendency to eat grains when I feel that I can't have the meat cooked in olive/coconut oil... I'm trying to persuade my parents to switch to olive oil, and also when eating out it's difficult to find places that cook without vegetable oil.... I usually eat salmon, and sardines, also lots of chicken, and I struggle to eat much other meat... I do like liver but usually when I eat it it's cooked in vegetable oil... :/ Is this still better than eating grains?

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on May 16, 2013
at 01:38 PM

No. I only know they put folic acid in it, which isn't folate and thus causes problems for some people. I don't know what else they put in it. Additionally, there is phytic acid in wheat, which means there is a difference between nutritional content and nutrition actually delivered.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on May 16, 2013
at 01:58 AM

Do you happen to know the nutrition facts of pre-fortified wheat?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on May 16, 2013
at 12:22 AM

@slim. She is not drinking the oil she's having it with meat

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on May 15, 2013
at 10:06 PM

just because you are not gluten sensitive and do not "feel" or see it harms deson't mean it hasn't them!

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on May 15, 2013
at 08:27 PM

If I was forced to choose between the two I'd choose sugar. Fewer toxins, and there is that study I was once that showed flour water was actually worse for your teeth than sugar water. They were both bad, of course.

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on May 15, 2013
at 07:05 PM

My thought would be that neither have any positives, but vegetable oils seems to be usually bad and gluten "may" be bad, putting vegetable oils in the worse category. Then you have to ask the next question of "is the amount I'm ingesting counteracting the positives of the other items I'm eating?" ie: Is getting a stirfry of bok choy and grass fed beef cooked in veggie oil a bad thing or just not optimal? If you're not fasting and need to eat, and the other choice is a deli sandwhich on whole wheat, I'd opt for the stir fry.

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:33 PM

Anon, thx for the comment about your wife. Both my grandmothers died of colon cancer (paternal and maternal) and paleo is the road I've been going down for my health. Glad to hear of someone else who has seen positive results. My first colonoscopy is in about a month, so I'm curious to see how I'm faring.

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Even if you didn't have a gluten intolerance I think it's worse for you than some vegetable oil.

C2fefd191418f9a7bd691077ab9b527a

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:24 PM

Thank you :) I thought as much :)

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:22 PM

agreed. As someone who does not appear to have gluten issues. I would say seed oils are worse that gluten. But again, YMMV

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:21 PM

Good for your wife, and glad to hear she's getting value. The genetic markers are very controversial, some studies showing zero correlation with actual cases of gulten intolerance.

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:16 PM

True dat! There's a ton of things worse than wheat. I guess the point of the main question is "what is worse: vegetable oils or wheat"

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

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on May 15, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Yes, bot a lot don't know if they have gluten intolerance. My wife didn't have any obvious symptoms but got genetically tested and found out that she had genetic markers on both sides of the family, which, oddly enough, all family members for generations died of digestive systems cancers (colon, stomach, pancreatic). All of them ate wheat and never felt bad at all (until the end). When my wife discontinued wheat, her colonoscopies went from having dozens of polyps to none. Her doctor still doesn't beleive it's wheat. Wheat, at best, doesn't do much, if anything, for you.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on May 15, 2013
at 05:48 PM

Is sugar ?

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on May 15, 2013
at 05:47 PM

Not everyone has gluten intolerances

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on May 15, 2013
at 04:47 PM

What's the longest stretch you've ever gone without a trace of wheat?

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006f2e9b763058ff2332681c206563e4

on May 15, 2013
at 05:34 PM

how can this be a question? absolutely everything is better than wheat.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 15, 2013
at 05:48 PM

Is sugar ?

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

(2771)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:16 PM

True dat! There's a ton of things worse than wheat. I guess the point of the main question is "what is worse: vegetable oils or wheat"

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

(2771)

on May 15, 2013
at 07:05 PM

My thought would be that neither have any positives, but vegetable oils seems to be usually bad and gluten "may" be bad, putting vegetable oils in the worse category. Then you have to ask the next question of "is the amount I'm ingesting counteracting the positives of the other items I'm eating?" ie: Is getting a stirfry of bok choy and grass fed beef cooked in veggie oil a bad thing or just not optimal? If you're not fasting and need to eat, and the other choice is a deli sandwhich on whole wheat, I'd opt for the stir fry.

006f2e9b763058ff2332681c206563e4

(252)

on May 15, 2013
at 10:06 PM

just because you are not gluten sensitive and do not "feel" or see it harms deson't mean it hasn't them!

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:22 PM

agreed. As someone who does not appear to have gluten issues. I would say seed oils are worse that gluten. But again, YMMV

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on May 15, 2013
at 08:27 PM

If I was forced to choose between the two I'd choose sugar. Fewer toxins, and there is that study I was once that showed flour water was actually worse for your teeth than sugar water. They were both bad, of course.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on May 15, 2013
at 08:48 PM

Ya'll don't forget nutrition, in addition to avoiding The Evil!!!!!.

Meat cooked in vegetable oil still wins because it is meat. More bioavailable and denser nutrition than bread. Most bread is fortified, so it isn't even playing fair and the forms of those vitamins are whatever industrial byproduct they've thought up and not necessarily what appears in nature.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on May 16, 2013
at 01:58 AM

Do you happen to know the nutrition facts of pre-fortified wheat?

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on May 16, 2013
at 01:38 PM

No. I only know they put folic acid in it, which isn't folate and thus causes problems for some people. I don't know what else they put in it. Additionally, there is phytic acid in wheat, which means there is a difference between nutritional content and nutrition actually delivered.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 15, 2013
at 05:55 PM

If you want to be 100% "Paleo", you would skip out on both. If you are not gluten intolerant, wheat isn't going to kill you. Especially if they are minimally processed. Also if you are generally eating clean, occasional brush up with seed oils are not going to kill you either. Your body is wondrously effective at filtering out toxins. Keep pushing the olive oil with your parents, if for no other reason, it just tastes better!

Don't stress out, and do what you can with what you have.

C2fefd191418f9a7bd691077ab9b527a

(287)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:24 PM

Thank you :) I thought as much :)

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B72e976b2df9e7f01315830062a5209c

(1365)

on September 07, 2013
at 12:44 AM

The short answer is yes, avoiding gluten should be the top priority.

B72e976b2df9e7f01315830062a5209c

(1365)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:30 PM

Even if you didn't have a gluten intolerance I think it's worse for you than some vegetable oil.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:33 PM

Anon, thx for the comment about your wife. Both my grandmothers died of colon cancer (paternal and maternal) and paleo is the road I've been going down for my health. Glad to hear of someone else who has seen positive results. My first colonoscopy is in about a month, so I'm curious to see how I'm faring.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:21 PM

Good for your wife, and glad to hear she's getting value. The genetic markers are very controversial, some studies showing zero correlation with actual cases of gulten intolerance.

3d58b5fb4f9780e2f47d4dcc53338a5a

(2771)

on May 15, 2013
at 06:14 PM

Yes, bot a lot don't know if they have gluten intolerance. My wife didn't have any obvious symptoms but got genetically tested and found out that she had genetic markers on both sides of the family, which, oddly enough, all family members for generations died of digestive systems cancers (colon, stomach, pancreatic). All of them ate wheat and never felt bad at all (until the end). When my wife discontinued wheat, her colonoscopies went from having dozens of polyps to none. Her doctor still doesn't beleive it's wheat. Wheat, at best, doesn't do much, if anything, for you.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 15, 2013
at 05:47 PM

Not everyone has gluten intolerances

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 16, 2013
at 12:22 AM

@slim. She is not drinking the oil she's having it with meat

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