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How is Kombucha vegan?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created June 09, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I dooon't understaaand. I work in the Nutrition/Health section of the local grocery store, and frequently see people with carts full of tofu, veganaise, tofurky, seitan, etc, also buying GT's Raw Kombucha. And I wonder... Doesn't that have a living organism floating in the bottom? I realize it's not exactly the same, but... Given the extreme nature of most vegans, wouldn't it almost make sense that they would shun drinking the stuff?

Also I realize I probably shouldn't assume just because they have that stuff, they are vegan, but I also google searched it, and a lot of vegans confirm their belief that it is vegan.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:47 AM

There's no need to talk down to me. I assumed that part of the benefit of consuming probiotic foods was to have the living organisms continue living in the gut, at least some of them. No?

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 25, 2013
at 06:11 PM

@Dan So what happens with the living organisms that you drink? Do they continue to live happily ever after in your digestive system or it's very very likely that the acidity of your stomach kills them? How do you think humans *digest* things?

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on April 25, 2013
at 05:44 AM

why is that facepalm? At least respond...

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 22, 2013
at 01:14 AM

/facepalm......

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 21, 2013
at 01:02 PM

Um, are you familiar with the concept of the paleo diet? No one here is touting veganism. All of us here are omnivores, a few possibly leaning towards carnivory.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 21, 2013
at 01:00 PM

Um, not one here is touting veganism. All of us here are omnivores, as far as I know.

A048b66e08306d405986b6c04bf5e8e4

on January 14, 2013
at 10:50 PM

Don't forget, there's pasturized kombucha, which basically destroys all the good critters in it

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on December 19, 2012
at 08:10 AM

Facilitation of rape would be more aptly described as sexual abuse, no? Semantics...

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on December 18, 2012
at 01:29 AM

@ Mike T, I think the rape comment is about forced insemination, not randy farm hands.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on December 18, 2012
at 12:58 AM

rape???????????

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on September 18, 2012
at 01:25 AM

Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha! Consuming wheat causes most SAD diseases. Thanks for playing. FYI most of us eat grass fed free range critters - we don't buy from big agra, nor big CAFO, most of you eat crops from monocultures where millions of rodents were slaughtered by combines. You have a lot to learn about how it really works, but sadly, since you've chosen veganism, your brain will shrink and your wheat belly will grow while you believe you're gaining "enlightenment."

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on September 18, 2012
at 12:57 AM

It could be non-vegan if the sugar was processed with bone char.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 18, 2012
at 12:48 AM

How is it not? Fungus+sugar+tea=kombucha. I see no animals being exploited in this equation.

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on August 05, 2012
at 12:45 AM

Since you can't see the microscopic organisms, or the masses of animals that are killed growing/harvesting plants for that matter, you can still consider yourself a vegan eating such things.

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on August 05, 2012
at 12:44 AM

Since you can't see the microscopic animals, as well as the animals that are killed growing/harvesting plants, you can still consider yourself a vegan eating such things.

A1a7413b99e03bc77f02d95c4170ea43

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on August 04, 2012
at 07:17 PM

Veganism is mostly just picking and choosing which life forms are "good enough" to save, and which can be eaten. "I don't eat anything with a face" is one of the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard. The food chain exists for a reason. And no one here is promoting torturing animals. I think most if not ALL people here would MUCH prefer pasture-raised, grass-fed, sustainably-raised, humanely killed products.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 04, 2012
at 06:27 PM

You're obviously not thinking hard enough if you think all food animals have been "tortured"...

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 04, 2012
at 06:26 PM

In a sense, kefir made from pasteurized milk is raw.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 04, 2012
at 03:58 PM

But seriously, the circle of life is not evil. I believe in eating clean animals that had healthy happy lives with a quick merciful end, and I don't eat any animal that I wouldn't kill myself. You can be an ethical omnivore. Lions don't hate the gazelles.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 04, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Promoting veganism on PaleoHacks makes you sound dumb. OH SNAP I SAID IT.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on July 17, 2012
at 05:11 PM

^No. It's not. Because it's already been pasteurized. Therefore it's not raw. You can't "undo" cooked or "redo" raw.

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

(614)

on June 10, 2012
at 01:32 AM

But wait, speaking in those terms, previously pasteurized milk that is fermented with live cultures would be considered raw also, albeit not vegan.

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

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on June 10, 2012
at 01:28 AM

Thanks. That clears it up!

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

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on June 09, 2012
at 08:23 PM

I think the point is that it's not pasteurized.

35b2cb4d450e5288895c255dfdfff35d

(5828)

on June 09, 2012
at 05:58 PM

I don't know of anyone who doesn't boil water/tea/sugar and let it cool off before adding the mushroom. It's raw in that the kombucha isn't being cooked so you're getting living enzymes and other living goodies in the brew.

C3bc92e6b5eba45dc55f43ac3c70cc25

on June 09, 2012
at 02:31 PM

Not that this will answer your question but at the Whole Foods by me they have seaweed salad with a Vegan sticker on their pacakage. Bonito, is on the ingredient list. Bonito is flakes of dried ou can obviously see the flakes sprinkeled among the salad mix. Surprised the tag is still on till this day.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

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on June 09, 2012
at 02:20 PM

You make non-raw kombucha. Most people just put a tea bag in there and let it ferment.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

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on June 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

SCOBY is an abbreviation for Symbiotic Colony of Bacteria and Yeast. Science does not classify bacteria as animals.

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0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

on June 09, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Why are you trying to understand Vegans? People don't really become vegans because they're rational n=1 thinkers.

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A17e02176a7f2bf1323489e55964d726

on June 09, 2012
at 01:32 PM

plants are living organisms and are acceptable food for vegans, as are fungi and yeast. Last I checked Kombucha wasn't made with animals or aninmal products, and therefore vegan. The SCOBY in kombucha is a yeast/fungi colony, iirc.

7e1433afbb06c318c4d90860d493c49d

(5959)

on June 09, 2012
at 01:42 PM

SCOBY is an abbreviation for Symbiotic Colony of Bacteria and Yeast. Science does not classify bacteria as animals.

14
92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

on June 09, 2012
at 01:26 PM

Everything has living organisms.

4
089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on December 17, 2012
at 11:08 PM

i drank kombucha when i was vegan because it's not an animal. makes sense.

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1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

on June 09, 2012
at 02:15 PM

I get how it is vegan, but how is it raw? When I make my Kombucha, I am basically make sweet tea before adding the scoby. That's with boiling water....

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on June 09, 2012
at 02:20 PM

You make non-raw kombucha. Most people just put a tea bag in there and let it ferment.

35b2cb4d450e5288895c255dfdfff35d

(5828)

on June 09, 2012
at 05:58 PM

I don't know of anyone who doesn't boil water/tea/sugar and let it cool off before adding the mushroom. It's raw in that the kombucha isn't being cooked so you're getting living enzymes and other living goodies in the brew.

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

(614)

on June 10, 2012
at 01:28 AM

Thanks. That clears it up!

1398eff69b192c35de5e0dbaad59052a

(2024)

on June 09, 2012
at 08:23 PM

I think the point is that it's not pasteurized.

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

(614)

on June 10, 2012
at 01:32 AM

But wait, speaking in those terms, previously pasteurized milk that is fermented with live cultures would be considered raw also, albeit not vegan.

0a9ad4e577fe24a6b8aafa1dd7a50c79

(5150)

on July 17, 2012
at 05:11 PM

^No. It's not. Because it's already been pasteurized. Therefore it's not raw. You can't "undo" cooked or "redo" raw.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 04, 2012
at 06:26 PM

In a sense, kefir made from pasteurized milk is raw.

A048b66e08306d405986b6c04bf5e8e4

on January 14, 2013
at 10:50 PM

Don't forget, there's pasturized kombucha, which basically destroys all the good critters in it

1
A048b66e08306d405986b6c04bf5e8e4

on December 18, 2012
at 02:58 AM

I don't think that microorganisms "count" as being egan, considering we consume millions of them per day wether we like it or not. Think about it, there are vegan yogurts tha contain live and active cultures

1
12ffba72d27b59054b6df36d82e47ddd

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on December 17, 2012
at 10:49 PM

The cultures that are in Kombucha and other fermented products are not sentient as opposed to human and non-human animals. Plants and bacteria don't have a central nervous system, they don't suffer and don't have the awareness that animals have. I kill bacteria daily through my mere existence, it's a huge leap in logic if I were to compare this to agribusiness profiting off of the enslavement, torture, rape and killing of animals.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on December 18, 2012
at 01:29 AM

@ Mike T, I think the rape comment is about forced insemination, not randy farm hands.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on December 18, 2012
at 12:58 AM

rape???????????

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on December 19, 2012
at 08:10 AM

Facilitation of rape would be more aptly described as sexual abuse, no? Semantics...

0
5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on April 21, 2013
at 11:28 PM

No face = ok to drink/eat.

0
194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on December 18, 2012
at 12:53 AM

When you drink kombucha, you are drinking living organisms, but that doesn't mean they're being killed.

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 22, 2013
at 01:14 AM

/facepalm......

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on April 25, 2013
at 05:44 AM

why is that facepalm? At least respond...

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:47 AM

There's no need to talk down to me. I assumed that part of the benefit of consuming probiotic foods was to have the living organisms continue living in the gut, at least some of them. No?

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

(1655)

on April 25, 2013
at 06:11 PM

@Dan So what happens with the living organisms that you drink? Do they continue to live happily ever after in your digestive system or it's very very likely that the acidity of your stomach kills them? How do you think humans *digest* things?

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7bd677588268341709dfa4c96a400063

on April 21, 2013
at 12:47 PM

Sorry guys, having grow up with an extrict vegan family and circle of friends and having a Ph.D in Psyc. Veganism IS AN EATING DISORDER, this is not only my opinion as a mental health professional who deals with eating disorders at my pratice on a daily basis and being myself a recoverying vegan (yes,cover your ears: I do eat honey, eggs, etc... But No meats!)also the opinion of many other mental health pros!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 21, 2013
at 01:00 PM

Um, not one here is touting veganism. All of us here are omnivores, as far as I know.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 21, 2013
at 01:02 PM

Um, are you familiar with the concept of the paleo diet? No one here is touting veganism. All of us here are omnivores, a few possibly leaning towards carnivory.

-1
D49e974d545e198ba823e3950c66bb62

on September 18, 2012
at 12:25 AM

Most omnivores I speak to have a healthy respect for the animals they eat and few wish suffering on the animals raised for slaughter. However, most live in ignorance (or cover their eyes and ears) to the fact that the overwhelming majority of animals consumed are bread specifically for certain products and treated as such with various hormones to produce higher yields, ie more profits. Meat eaters are usually unaware, due to the persecution of information, that consuming meat promotes most diseases in or society while at the same time limiting of even eliminating the evolution of their personal consciousness. In other words, eat meat and stay chained to the lower mind and lower existence (ie: hater comments). Just look around, big farmer wants you to eat their meat, so they can produce more grain, get you sick, then treat your illness. Maybe vegan-ism isn't for you, however, ridiculing their ideological is the pinnacle of foolery.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on September 18, 2012
at 01:25 AM

Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha! Consuming wheat causes most SAD diseases. Thanks for playing. FYI most of us eat grass fed free range critters - we don't buy from big agra, nor big CAFO, most of you eat crops from monocultures where millions of rodents were slaughtered by combines. You have a lot to learn about how it really works, but sadly, since you've chosen veganism, your brain will shrink and your wheat belly will grow while you believe you're gaining "enlightenment."

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F01c864d763e06bd817430a58a9b37e9

on August 04, 2012
at 03:41 PM

Not rational thinkers? Pretty sure vegans are more rational thinkers than you are, bonebrothfast. We DO think, therefore we are vegan. What's rational about eating animals that have been tortured their entire lives? What's rational about paying for a "product" that exists out of abuse? I suggest you think before speaking. Comments like that make you sound dumb.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 04, 2012
at 03:56 PM

Promoting veganism on PaleoHacks makes you sound dumb. OH SNAP I SAID IT.

A1a7413b99e03bc77f02d95c4170ea43

(2393)

on August 04, 2012
at 07:17 PM

Veganism is mostly just picking and choosing which life forms are "good enough" to save, and which can be eaten. "I don't eat anything with a face" is one of the most ridiculous reasons I've ever heard. The food chain exists for a reason. And no one here is promoting torturing animals. I think most if not ALL people here would MUCH prefer pasture-raised, grass-fed, sustainably-raised, humanely killed products.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10480)

on August 04, 2012
at 03:58 PM

But seriously, the circle of life is not evil. I believe in eating clean animals that had healthy happy lives with a quick merciful end, and I don't eat any animal that I wouldn't kill myself. You can be an ethical omnivore. Lions don't hate the gazelles.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 04, 2012
at 06:27 PM

You're obviously not thinking hard enough if you think all food animals have been "tortured"...

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