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Hack this Vegan Propaganda

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 30, 2011 at 3:31 AM

http://www.heartattackproof.com/

From what I heard it was all over CNN today.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on August 30, 2011
at 03:16 PM

At 137, it would probably increase your risk of stroke as well.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on August 30, 2011
at 02:02 PM

It's green, right? That automatically makes it a vegetable, just like having a tangy taste (tomato) instead of sweet makes it a veg and not a fruit, lol.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on August 30, 2011
at 11:44 AM

What's up with the vegan stuff lately? Ever since they ran that piece about Bill Clinton, it's been everywhere. Even my local paper had an entire section devoted to it. Shame they'd never endorse Paleo recipes or lifestyle, I guess it's not trendy enough.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on August 30, 2011
at 06:40 AM

Sounds like Denise Minger's talk at the AHS....

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on August 30, 2011
at 04:48 AM

thanks, hearing Ornish talk about this gives me high blood pressure. lol

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on August 30, 2011
at 04:03 AM

Well said Jefff!!!

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on August 30, 2011
at 03:53 AM

Well an oil-free diet will remove toxic vegetable oils and also probably eliminate most processed food. This sounds to me like the Ornish diet (though I'm not familiar with the finer points of either), people's health WILL improve if they remove industrial seed oils and processed foods, with or without animal intake.

An average total cholesterol of 137 should virtually eliminate heart disease but I would bet the rates of cancer or all cause mortality would increase.

Also, a sample size of 17 is quite small, especially when compared to this meta-analysis of nearly 350,000 people that concluded "there is no significant evidence for concluding that dietary saturated fat is associated with an increased risk of CHD or CVD"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20071648

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on August 30, 2011
at 04:03 AM

Well said Jefff!!!

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on August 30, 2011
at 04:48 AM

thanks, hearing Ornish talk about this gives me high blood pressure. lol

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on August 30, 2011
at 06:40 AM

Sounds like Denise Minger's talk at the AHS....

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on August 30, 2011
at 03:16 PM

At 137, it would probably increase your risk of stroke as well.

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B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

on August 30, 2011
at 04:21 AM

He doesn't even know that an Avocado isn't a vegetable.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on August 30, 2011
at 02:02 PM

It's green, right? That automatically makes it a vegetable, just like having a tangy taste (tomato) instead of sweet makes it a veg and not a fruit, lol.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on August 30, 2011
at 03:50 PM

at least he believes heart disease is caused by diet alone. that is a positive step. now we need a study to back up the seed oil theory.

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324bf94d3d6f9322d6e4dba4becfaab1

on August 30, 2011
at 06:30 PM

Excessive grain intake, especially processed grains, is the primary cause of heart disease, so of course not eating them, along with eliminating artificial fats and other processed fats, is going to almost completely eliminate heart disease. These militant vegans push their propaganda by performing studies that eliminate both meat and grain from the diet at the same time, then "conclude" that abstaining from meat is somehow the solution. For example, fast food is like 20% meat and 80% sugar/carb, and somehow the meat gets blamed... lol.

When studies that actually attempt to isolate meat consumption from other variables, especially grains, it is easily shown that meat, with perhaps the exception of processed meat, does not cause heart disease. When you actually study nutrition and how the body processes food, it is also easily demonstrated that the body is meant to eat meat. Animal products, for the most part, are the only things the body can actually digest itself through enzymes. Fruits, vegetables, and fiber are broken down in your gut by bacteria into fats and proteins.

This is why even healthy gorillas have big bulky bellies that are far bigger than their shoulders, because they eat 40-50 lbs of plant matter a day and they need lots of room to store it while bacteria break it down. Healthy humans, on the other hand, have bellies that are significantly smaller than their shoulders and pecs. Humans don't need large digestive tracts because they don't need room for massive amounts of room to store plant matter while bacteria break it down. Humans are meant to eat meat, and lots of it. Vegetables aren't bad, but anything vegetables can do meat can do better.

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