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Can i get a pure veg diet???

Answered on April 02, 2014
Created March 23, 2014 at 7:58 PM

Look i know what the Paleo diet means. Its based on natural food... But the thing is I am vegetarian and also a bad cook :P... i read your recipes in your beginner's guide where i found many of the recipes non-veg... so can u please tell me few easy recipes which are easy to cook and also VEG... please... i will be obliged to receive your reply...

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on April 02, 2014
at 11:01 AM

Basically you need a crapload of food mixing, food extracts and supplements to emulate paleo macros and micros as a vegetarian. At minimum, you'll need to learn to cook.

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on April 02, 2014
at 10:32 AM

thnxx buddy ur answer was best :P

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on April 02, 2014
at 10:28 AM

ya ya i knw i knw

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on April 02, 2014
at 10:26 AM

sry to argue with u....

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on March 31, 2014
at 07:19 PM

the 2/3 I was referring to were the macronutrients proteins and fats (the other 1/3 being carbs of course) - and favoring animal fats over vegetal fats like olive and coconut oil. Not very specific, but generalizing for the sake of not getting too bogged down.

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on March 31, 2014
at 06:53 PM

I'm going to go ahead and also call you out on the B12 thing. No B12 in any vegetables (whether local or from Earth/Venus/Jupiter/Mars/etc.) and paying in dirt just gives you worms, not B12.

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on March 31, 2014
at 12:31 PM

You indeed physically can eat meat. It's your choice not to.

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on March 31, 2014
at 12:30 PM

Your choice to follow whatever religion you choose, just as it's your choice to eat whatever you want to eat.

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on March 31, 2014
at 08:38 AM

is that my mistake that i took birth in such a family who is vegetarian??? nd who follow such a religion where it's a sin to eat meat??????

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on March 31, 2014
at 08:36 AM

but i CAN"T eat meat

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on March 30, 2014
at 12:39 PM

You'll be far fitter by eating meat.

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on March 30, 2014
at 12:35 PM

But how much animal product is really necessary? Retinol? Takes 1 oz of chicken liver a day to fully meet retinol needs, a mere 10 grams a day of beef liver. B12? 14 grams of chicken liver, 4 grams of beef liver. Iodine from food (plant or animal) depends on source soil. ALA is the predominant omega-3 in animal or plant foods, balances omega-6s just fine, and is positively correlated with health outcomes. Even if you want to get more EPA/DHA… a serving a fish a week is probably sufficient.

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on March 30, 2014
at 12:28 PM

I agree, 2/3s of food as animal product is excessive (well, 2/3s of what? calories? volume? mass?) Even as calories where animal product should make up the greatest fraction, 2/3s is more than necessary.

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on March 30, 2014
at 06:37 AM

"a bit of meat" is not vegetarian. If you are eating animal flesh in any amount, you are not vegetarian. You can have a little meat - lots of veg - and good fats ... and that is paleo. But that wasn't your initial question

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:50 AM

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:15 AM

I think its called metabolic typing? I don't know a lot about it. I heard elliot hulse talking about it in one of his videos.

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:09 AM

I'm a follower to some degree of methylation cycle nutrigenomics, where I like to run DNA genotypes through SNPedia and look for supplemental routes around common inefficient metabolic pathway mutations.

'O type' tells me absolutely nothing, and I can't see why that information alone would have any reason to change your fish/meat/fruit ratios.

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:08 AM

@paleot what do you think of blood types and planning your diet accordion to them? Like I think O type is lots of grass fed red meat, there are some all fish and fruits, some are low carb etc

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:03 AM

Compared to an american diet / vegan diet, it's extremely high in vegetable / fruit, while still allowing for most of your protein and fat to come from animals. Vegetables and fruits are poor source of protein and fat, which only leaves the carbohydrates that are best consumed in the smallest amounts.

You can source fruit / nut / vegetable oils for your fats / proteins, but that doesn't seem superior to a grass-fed meat and seafood for a balanced omega3:6 ratio with things like CLA and retinol/cholesterol, iodine, b12, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlT7kEXXaZk (Robb Wolf)

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:52 PM

Eating locally grown veg and working / playing in the good natural dirt will do nothing for your b12 levels if you're avoiding meat.

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:13 PM

Not according to Rob Wolf, I have heard him say a diet high in vegetable and fruits and seeds with a bit of meat is optimal for lots of people.

He talks about this subject on an episode of the paleo solution podcast. He says how many non grain and non legume vegans would have extremely healthy diet and adding a bit of meat everyday would make it perfect.

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on March 28, 2014
at 09:23 PM

toooooooo BBBIIIGGG :P

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on March 28, 2014
at 09:22 PM

maybe just trying to keep myself fit....

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on March 24, 2014
at 12:25 PM

If "you are what you eat" counts, then cows are mainly grass...

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on March 24, 2014
at 11:37 AM

A lot of people are vegetarian out of mistaken reasons. There's no point discussing it with you, you're vegetarian for the most irrational of reasons - religion.

Also, why are you trying paleo?

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on March 24, 2014
at 06:09 AM

Step 1. Buy vegetables you like. Step 2. Add spices and herbs you like to taste, oils and fats to meet macro goals, add water or vegetable broth if you want to make it into a soup. You'll have to make the odd extra effort to find protein that doesn't mess you up, and fix the omega balance and lack of A+B12+DHA+EPA+cholesterol (among other nutrients) in your diet.

Googling "Low Carb Paleo Vegetarian Recipes" doesn't return much. You'll probably have to freestyle it. Pinterest is a good resource.

http://www.pinterest.com/lasmart/veggie-sides-low-carb-grain-free-paleo/

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on March 24, 2014
at 06:05 AM

:/ .... ummm should i tell u which veggies I like???

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on March 24, 2014
at 06:03 AM

LOL... are all ppl livng on this earth NON-VEGETARIAN??? well am from india nd i follow jainism religion... search bout it nd u will come to knw the ans...

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at 02:16 AM

Why are you vegetarian?

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on March 31, 2014
at 12:46 PM

Here's an easy recipe. Microwave or bake a sweet potato. Top it with your fat of choice and some roasted nuts, and season to taste. Eat this at least 3x a day.

If you want to improve your health be active. Start by walking 5 miles every day. I got more cardiovascular benefits out of this than anything I did with my diet.

Read Naipaul at all? I see A House for Mr. Biswas as a clear statement of vegetarian vs omnivore practicum. The separation from traditional vegetarian (starch/oil/very little protein) took 2 generations living in Trinidad in a mixed culture. The expats formed an insular community which preserved Indian village life.

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on April 02, 2014
at 10:32 AM

thnxx buddy ur answer was best :P

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on April 02, 2014
at 11:09 AM

Here's a thought, spiritually speaking.

How do we know that plants are not aware? What is the subjective experience of a carrot, an oak, an oyster, or a chicken? Indeed, science nor religion has any real indication of the origin of the subjective experience, its a mystery called "the hard problem of conciousness", so any assumption that it lies here, and there, but not there, has no basis. The very earth could be aware, cosmic rays, or the molecules that resonate within us.

But something always worth considering if you must persist in this human-centric "conventional animal brain = only valid subjective awareness" assumption, is that shellfish have no brain (oysters, mussels etc)

They are also a great source of nutrients missing from vegetarian diets (such as zinc, b12 and omega-3). Lots of plant fats (avocado, olives, coconut and its oil), paleo carbs (tubers and a little nuts), some dairy, and egg protein and fat, and good amount of some brainless bivalves and your not doing too bad nutritionally.

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on March 29, 2014
at 12:27 AM

I was a vegetarian until this past year where I realized how underweight I was from running and being a veggie. I didn't mean to starve myself, in fact I was eating SO MUCH food. Like pounding down food.

If you can't cook already, then there is NO WAY you can manage being a healthy vegetarian. I think it is 100% more labor-intensive being a vegetarian than eating more omnivorously.

In the past, I had great success with quinoa - however now it physically hurts me when I eat it. Even like a spoonful. So if you tolerate that, go for it I say. Also in the past I would pound down the organic, no-preservative tempeh which is soy yes, but it is fermented and *might* be better than conventional soy. If you are down with dairy, go for greek yogurt, raw milk if you can, but clean dairy. Or go for clean coconut milk for fats and calories, avocado, and olive oil. I have had amazing success soaking and sprouting lentils (which I still eat them and think they are very, very good) but I don't do other beans anymore. Just lentils.

You'll have to get creative with mixing foods together and yes actually cooking. Last night I made lentil curry with sprouted lentils, coconut milk, curry paste and spices, and veggies. Do something like that - make big pot meals and dump all kinds of clean foods in with spices. Simmer it for a while. Make sure there is something fatty or dense to fill you up. Cooking ain't that hard if you get some basics down.

If you're a vegetarian for Earthly reasons - right on :) that's mainly why I was one. However, I do encourage you to research about food sourcing as many vegetarian diet ingredients often come from poor agricultural practices, have extremely long food miles, and are produced through farm worker exploitation. I only eat meat that is local and know the animals were raised humanely. Much less food miles, much less exploitation, much more calorie/nutrients for my dollar, etc.

Hope this helped!

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on April 02, 2014
at 11:01 AM

Basically you need a crapload of food mixing, food extracts and supplements to emulate paleo macros and micros as a vegetarian. At minimum, you'll need to learn to cook.

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:06 PM

You can be whatever you want to be, but if you want advice on a vegetarian diet, don't come asking for it at a PALEO forum. Paleo / Primal means whole foods from a wide variety of sources with animal products as the primary source of protein / fats - a full 2/3 of your diet should come from animals in some way. So if that doesn't square with you, go to one of the thousand of sites on the internet that advises on vegetarian diets.

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:13 PM

Not according to Rob Wolf, I have heard him say a diet high in vegetable and fruits and seeds with a bit of meat is optimal for lots of people.

He talks about this subject on an episode of the paleo solution podcast. He says how many non grain and non legume vegans would have extremely healthy diet and adding a bit of meat everyday would make it perfect.

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on March 31, 2014
at 08:38 AM

is that my mistake that i took birth in such a family who is vegetarian??? nd who follow such a religion where it's a sin to eat meat??????

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on March 28, 2014
at 09:39 PM

I have been Vegan my friend and I do not recommend it.

You will get lean and get a great boost card wise and if you are training hard you will recover a lot faster.

But your testosterone levels will drop, your b12 levels will unless you are eating locally grow veg and working/playing in good natural dirt. You won't be able to eat enough unless you are financially well off and avoiding bread and legumes etc a paleo vegetarian would be getting all his food through fruit and green veggies. Not ideal.

Have you thought about a pescatarian diet? Or maybe if you have a way to get cruelty free raw dairy you could go that route too.

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on March 31, 2014
at 06:53 PM

I'm going to go ahead and also call you out on the B12 thing. No B12 in any vegetables (whether local or from Earth/Venus/Jupiter/Mars/etc.) and paying in dirt just gives you worms, not B12.

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on March 28, 2014
at 11:52 PM

Eating locally grown veg and working / playing in the good natural dirt will do nothing for your b12 levels if you're avoiding meat.

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on March 24, 2014
at 04:39 PM

I'm glad you asked! I'm by no means a vegetarian and think that most vegetarians who think they're eating healthy are sadly mistaken, but I also understand that sometimes people have a strong moral conviction that not eating animals is the correct thing to do. I can argue health, but I can't argue someone's moral feelings. That's why I'm not going to say "just eat meat!"

If you're going to eat vegetarian, you'll have to pay a lot more attention to your protein and fat sources. Getting your entire spectrum of amino acids and healthy fats is easy as a meat eater, and we usually don't have to monitor too closely those factors. There are many sites that will list amino acid content of certain vegetables out there. Quinoa and amaranth (both psuedo grains), and lentils are the most accessable vegetarian friendly sources of a complete amino acid spectrum. If you eat eggs, of course, that will also be a great source of protein and the right kind of fats. Be paleo and eat eggs from humanely raised pastured chickens! Coconut oil is a great source of saturated fats to add to cooking or smoothies (don't juice! You need the pulp more than the juice!). Full fat milk, kefir and cheese can also be a good source of fats and proteins if you're not lactose tolerant or vegan. Nuts are great too.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that if it's "not meat" then it's good for me. A glutenous veggie pizza isn't healthy. Neither is a vegan brownie. On that note, paleo brownies, albeit a better alternative, is still not that great for you and only a sometimes treat.

Eat a lot of leafy greans, if you go for legumes, soak them to counteract the anti-nutrients, and eat veggies! Real veggies!

On another note, the protien content of a lot of these items (except for eggs) come with a lot of extra carbs. In order for your body to handle more carbs than you need (which most of us eat more than we need) you need to step up your exercising. This will help keep your insulin sensitivity in check and hopefully prevent unneccessary blood glucose spikes.

There are paleo vegetarians, and even vegans out there, so don't get discouraged by all of us ominivores out here in the paleosphere. We like our meat and see it as a natural food source, but humans come in all sorts of varieties, so welcome aboard!

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on March 28, 2014
at 09:23 PM

toooooooo BBBIIIGGG :P

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on March 24, 2014
at 09:59 AM

a) learn to cook, it's not that hard.

b) animals are very tasty. Think of them as vegetables, if you must.

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on March 24, 2014
at 12:25 PM

If "you are what you eat" counts, then cows are mainly grass...

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on March 24, 2014
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Typically, a Paleo diet is done for the health benefits based on ancestral evolution, where excluding animal products is pretty much the opposite of what you would want to do there for either one. (Vegan diets have a good potential to be straight up junk-food diets.)

I would figure out which vegetables you're in the mood for, look up some dishes that can be prepared with them, then work on different substitutions until you like it.

If you go all in, preparing every meal every day for a year or so, you'll quickly figure out what works for you.

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on March 24, 2014
at 06:05 AM

:/ .... ummm should i tell u which veggies I like???

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on March 24, 2014
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chowstalker has a lot of recipes. you could search on there. i am a former vegan so i avoid any veggie-based sites these days. chowstalker has a good mixture of all paleo foods.

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