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How do you react to traditional doctors?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created November 14, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Do you ignore their idiotic comments, argue with them or just don't go to them?

I recently had a very bad experience with a gastroenterologist. Among some other extremely dumb things she said:

  1. People cannot get all their nutrients from food, they need multivitamins and supplements.

  2. You need to eat more fiber in form of rice crackers (I came to ask her if I had SIBO).

  3. Bone broth is bad for you. This is the worst thing for your gastritis, it makes your body produce more bile which irritates your stomach lining.

  4. You need to eat 5 times per day, small portions.

  5. Sauerkraut irritates digestive system and should not be eaten by people with gastritis.

  6. Raw milk is dangerous for your health.

  7. You should not be eating liver, it is bad for you.

Does it make sense? Or is it me who is crazy? How do I have to react to this?

UPDATED INFORMATION:

This is the diet she suggested:

ALLOWED FOODS:

whole-grain bread (I told her I was gluten intolerant, she said it was in my head)

wheat crackers

puffed rice crackers

fat-free sugar-free cookies

dry wheat thins with bran

yogurt and kefir

farmer's cheese

milk with tea

sour cream as a condiment

oatmeal

buckwheat

pasta made with hard type of wheat

lean beef

lean lamb

rabbit

chicken

turkey breast

seafood

egg whites

vegetarian broth with grains

potatoes

carrots

beets

cauliflower

broccoli

zucchini

cucumbers

prunes

baked apples

dried apricots

figs

fruits that are not sweet

tomatoes

parsley, dill

green beans

vegetable oil (not olive, VEGETABLE)

fruit drinks (no sugar)

FOODS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED

white bread, whole milk, cream of wheat, peas, beans, sharp cheese, meat with fat, smoked meats, anything with cabbage, bone broth, sauerkraut, persimmon, grapes, pumpkin, melons, chocolate, alcohol, soda pops.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I did not ask her for nutritional advice - I just wanted her to interpret my breath test. But I guess she wanted to cure me. I don't think she is a bad doctor, I just think she does not know. Thanks for your reply.

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on November 16, 2012
at 02:57 AM

lol egg whites?! those are worthless (and disgusting) unless you add the yolks back in

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on November 15, 2012
at 11:23 AM

'fruit that it no sweet' alongside figs etc - LOL

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:37 AM

Because of you, I am introducing more vegetables - but if I die from complications, are you going to be morally responsible?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:36 AM

Alligator - I just hope you don't have SIBO because SIBO patients cannot have fresh fruit - the bacteria feeds on it. As for iron, I am not rich enough to buy seafood. I have to be Bill Gates wife to afford it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:34 AM

My doctor does not know what ferritin is. She has no idea bout SIBO either. I basically found a place (the only place in my country) that does SIBO testing and I went there. The person who administered the test told me I definitely have SIBO. I asked him if I could make an appointment with him, but he said he can only refer me to another gastroenterologist. Apparently, he only works with people who are hospitalized, not outpatients. So I went to the gastroenterologist he recommended. She could not interpret my test results and she said that I need to treat my gastritis first.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:45 AM

Also, GAPS suppose to help with SIBO and it is based on meat/bone broth, a little bit of liver and sauerkraut every day and some very limited cooked vegetables. As for big meals, I don't think my meals are that big.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:42 AM

I don't have acid reflux (at least I am not aware of it). However, I might have SIBO. I got tested for it, but nobody can interpret the results. When I asked her if I had SIBO or not, she said, "that should not be the problem, you need to treat your gastritis first". How can it not be a problem, if my lowest reading was 34 and the limit is 20 ppm? I will stop having bone broth for a while to see if I get better, but I don't have stomach aches - I have slow digestion and fatigue (which I think is totally related to my SIBO). The only thing that makes me feel better is going 0 carb for now.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I might have SIBO and I got tested for it. I cannot interpret the test results, and I cannot find any doctor who would. They just don't know what to do with them.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on November 14, 2012
at 09:22 PM

You should also be thankful that your doctor is even suggesting that food could play a role in your low ferratin and digestive issues- many will rule that out entirely once they've established there is no gluten intolerance.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on November 14, 2012
at 09:20 PM

Also, you should be happy that your GI doc is even suggestion that food plays a role in GI health- some don't other than test for gluten intolerance.

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on November 14, 2012
at 09:17 PM

^ Why do you need to find a GI if you do not have any acute conditions? Are planning on getting some? Why were you seeing her in the first place?

40befdb27ebc5f02993523f3625bc8c5

on November 14, 2012
at 09:14 PM

When I go to a tudor because I'm failing math class, I don't scoff and tell her she's doing it wrong.

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on November 14, 2012
at 09:06 PM

@alligator, You make a very good point. Your doctor sees you, as somebody suffering from all sorts of digestive issues and eating a peculiar way (paleo-ish). From the doctor's POV, your diet is obviously not working.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on November 14, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Also, since you'r eating liver and still have low ferratin, maybe it's not so simple as you make it seem. Maybe you need a healthy gut to absorb it effectively, and what you're eating is damaging your gut? Sounds about right to me. Your doctor is right on all accounts. Eat more fiber (except from fruit/veg and not rice bran), eat more vitamins and minerals (from fruit/veg and not Centrum), stop drinking raw milk (may be damaging your immune system through pathogens, casein and lactose may be damaging your gut), and avoid problematic vegetables (FODMAs, which include cabbage/crucifers).

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on November 14, 2012
at 08:55 PM

Liver isn't the only thing that contains iron and b-vitamins. All meat contains b-vitamins. steamed spinach is great source of iron. a wide array of produce will provide you with more the vitamins and minerals listed on a typical Centrum Multivitamin. A diet rich in fruits and vegetables gives you more fiber than Metamucil. Sunlight and seafood provide you with vitamin D.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

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on November 14, 2012
at 08:52 PM

Also, my grandparents live on a Farm in the South of France, and they always heat their raw milk over the stove before drinking it. Why do they do it? Because their parents did, and their parents before them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 07:07 PM

You are lucky. This is the second gastroenterologist that I am having an issue with. My gynecologist and my dentist both love me. I think Paleo has ruined my relationship with gastroenterologists.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 07:05 PM

I don't have any acute conditions, but I need to find a good gastroenterologist.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 07:03 PM

No, but I actually called my friends and asked them if they thought I needed a psychiatrist. They all told me to relax and made tons of jokes about it. When I told them what she said about rice crackers, they were very surprised I let her live (they know about my diet).

7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:33 PM

+1 good points thhq

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:24 PM

And in regard to psychiatrist quip, did you ask her for some zoloft?

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:23 PM

She gave you a list of things to do! Better get busy! Fix your life! My sessions with the Dr. result actionable items based on the tests and discussion, not boiler plate bullet lists.

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:20 PM

She gave you a list of things to do! Better get busy! Fix your life!

7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:19 PM

I'm glad you got your back up VB, maybe she'll second guess some of those claims but I doubt it.

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:16 PM

This is a health care professional? It sounds like she got a degree in nutrition out of a box of wheaties.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 02:23 PM

Thanks for the link :)

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 02:21 PM

LOL. Nice picture! I am feeling better already.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 02:20 PM

You are right, I should have been more polite, but it all added up. I could not take her comment about not eating liver. I guess I was just so fed up with trying to be my own doctor since traditional practitioners failed to diagnose me.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on November 14, 2012
at 01:30 PM

Maybe the insoluble fibre? Often doctors, being in a position of authority, don't feel the need to back up their claims with evidence to us poor laypeople with no clue. I agree she sounds disagreeable, but some of those points are contesetable (although other lolworthy I agree...)

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on November 14, 2012
at 12:47 PM

VB - Next time I would just try to keep the conversation polite. Listen to what she has to say & then respond politely. I am new to Paleo, but I have disagreed with Doctors. In fact, magically when I stopped taking my acid reflux medication, many of my digestive issues dissipated. Of the statements you listed, the only one I've heard of before is #4. I've been told to do that because I get hungry during the latter end of my work day after lunch & before dinner. So I break my meals up to curb my hunger. However, now that I am eating more protien, this should hopefully not be an issue anymore.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:31 AM

She does not know what fodmaps are. She thinks that kraut is bad for you because cabbage irritates your gut (whatever that means).

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:29 AM

She backed up her statements by saying that I needed to see a psychiatrist (this was after I argued that liver has iron and vitamin B and she is way behind her times). Ok, I am guilty too - I said that she was the most incompetent doctor I ever saw. But I have an excuse - my ferritin levels are low plus I was paying her.

97d98cdf2f18fa2c0bd8567ea1159609

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:20 AM

VB - Did your Gastroenterologist have anything to back up his/her statements? Or did he/she just make statements without any evidentiary support? From the looks of it, without any additional support, your Doctor just doesn't seem to make much sense. To be polite, I would listen to everything your Doctor has to say without interrupting him/her. Then when he/she is finished talking, politely make a rebuddle and ask questions to argue against his/her evidence, to prove your point.

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on November 14, 2012
at 12:43 PM

I usually respond like this:

how-do-you-react-to-traditional-doctors?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 02:21 PM

LOL. Nice picture! I am feeling better already.

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3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

on November 14, 2012
at 08:42 PM

***Why is no one pointing this out?***

You're seeing a doctor, presumably because you are not healthy in some way. You're saying her dietary recommendations are dumb, but continuing to eat your way (raw milk, cabbage, etc) has landed you in her office. So, maybe diet manipulation doesn't really play that large of a role, or maybe, just maybe she IS right that what you're eating (raw milk, sauerkraut, etc) is not healthy for your tummy.

Just because it is paleo, does not mean it is healthy and can't cause digestive issues. Cruciferous vegetables, lactose, and casein protein can all cause digestive upset. Casein can cause constipation. Pathogens in milk could damage your immune system and worsen leaky gut.

Maybe try eating things like fresh fruits, non FODMAP, non cruciferous vegetables, and fish. You'll be getting plenty of non-grain fiber in that way.You'll also be getting in plenty of vitamins and minerals in the produce, and some in the seafood as well- so no vitamin is necessary **

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on November 14, 2012
at 09:20 PM

Also, you should be happy that your GI doc is even suggestion that food plays a role in GI health- some don't other than test for gluten intolerance.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on November 14, 2012
at 09:22 PM

You should also be thankful that your doctor is even suggesting that food could play a role in your low ferratin and digestive issues- many will rule that out entirely once they've established there is no gluten intolerance.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on November 14, 2012
at 08:52 PM

Also, my grandparents live on a Farm in the South of France, and they always heat their raw milk over the stove before drinking it. Why do they do it? Because their parents did, and their parents before them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on November 15, 2012
at 10:37 AM

Because of you, I am introducing more vegetables - but if I die from complications, are you going to be morally responsible?

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on November 14, 2012
at 08:55 PM

Liver isn't the only thing that contains iron and b-vitamins. All meat contains b-vitamins. steamed spinach is great source of iron. a wide array of produce will provide you with more the vitamins and minerals listed on a typical Centrum Multivitamin. A diet rich in fruits and vegetables gives you more fiber than Metamucil. Sunlight and seafood provide you with vitamin D.

3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

(1782)

on November 14, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Also, since you'r eating liver and still have low ferratin, maybe it's not so simple as you make it seem. Maybe you need a healthy gut to absorb it effectively, and what you're eating is damaging your gut? Sounds about right to me. Your doctor is right on all accounts. Eat more fiber (except from fruit/veg and not rice bran), eat more vitamins and minerals (from fruit/veg and not Centrum), stop drinking raw milk (may be damaging your immune system through pathogens, casein and lactose may be damaging your gut), and avoid problematic vegetables (FODMAs, which include cabbage/crucifers).

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on November 15, 2012
at 10:36 AM

Alligator - I just hope you don't have SIBO because SIBO patients cannot have fresh fruit - the bacteria feeds on it. As for iron, I am not rich enough to buy seafood. I have to be Bill Gates wife to afford it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 10:34 AM

My doctor does not know what ferritin is. She has no idea bout SIBO either. I basically found a place (the only place in my country) that does SIBO testing and I went there. The person who administered the test told me I definitely have SIBO. I asked him if I could make an appointment with him, but he said he can only refer me to another gastroenterologist. Apparently, he only works with people who are hospitalized, not outpatients. So I went to the gastroenterologist he recommended. She could not interpret my test results and she said that I need to treat my gastritis first.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on November 14, 2012
at 09:06 PM

@alligator, You make a very good point. Your doctor sees you, as somebody suffering from all sorts of digestive issues and eating a peculiar way (paleo-ish). From the doctor's POV, your diet is obviously not working.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on November 14, 2012
at 09:50 PM

First, I think "alligator's" answer is SPOT ON. What you're eating clearly isn't working, otherwise you wouldn't be in her office with low ferreting and digestive distress. You can take all of her advice and put it to use through paleo means.

Let me relay my one and only experience with a GI doctor. I was 13 years old. I was having excruciating pains in my abdomen. It felt like I was being stabbed. The pains were worst when I would go running, something that I did often. I was convinced it was something I was eating. She ran a bunch of tests to appease me, and established no food intolerances. I wasn't satisfied.

She sent me to the radiology department, where I was told to drink an orange flavored beverage containing barium so that they could see what was going on inside my organs. I got upset because I wanted the tests but did not want to drink the orange flavored beverage. Not because it contained barium, but because it contained calories. After being peer pressured by my the nurse into doing so, I drank it down, half crying.

My dad works at the hospital, and later that day we got the results. The pain in my abdomen was the result of "abnormally low and insufficient subcutaneous fat stores." The result was that my organs were literally tugging on each other whenever I'd do moderately impactful activities (like running). The tugging was causing the aforementioned painful sensation. A month later I was in an eating disorder clinic because was still in denial, and refused to gain the weight that would ultimately save my life.

The point of this story is to say that often conventional doctors can be right, despite how determined we are that they are wrong. I am sure that if I went to some alternative health guru, they would have said yeah, it's the x-food in your diet that's damaging your gut. It's neolithic, you can't eat that, etc etc yada yada, and would have exacerbated the issue by worsening my relationship with food (food as poison, literally, not as medicine). I would have lied to them, saying I was eating more than I was, and they would have said it was some neolithic agent causing leaky gut and malnourishment. Luckily though, I went to a traditional GI doc who has enough clinical experience to know intuitively, without any tests (she did them for my benefit, not for hers) what was the matter. I would take her advice and paleo-ize it as much as possible. Non-FODMAP Produce for fiber, vitamins and minerals. Seafood for more vitamins and minerals, and an easily digested source of protein (as alligator said).


Now, to her points (which basically re-iterates alligator's answer, but in step-by-step fashion).

  1. She is partly right- not everyone can get all their nutrients through food. But taking a vitamin isn't really attacking the root of the issue. Healing one's gut and eating more nutrition through food is. Eat abundant fresh produce and some seafood. Eliminate gut irritants (likely the raw milk and cabbage).

  2. Again, fiber can come from fresh produce. There is abundant research showing the benefits of fiber in gut health, much having to due with the benefits of prebiotics and resistant starch.

  3. She's right. Bile does irritate your stomach lining- acid reflux is a real problem.

  4. I don't know enough about this, but I'm sure a lot of people (not on paleohacks) subjectively think they digest food better in smaller meals, rather than large ones- myself being one of them.

  5. sauerkraut is a FODMAP. It is a very likely culprit in digestive distress.

  6. raw milk can contain pathogenic bacteria, which can compromise your immunity.

  7. I don't know about that. Liver everyday seems excessive, as vitamin-A palpitate toxicity is a real thing (something true carnivores do not worry about). I bet traditional HGs made sure that they didn't eat the same part of the animal with each and every kill, so as to diversify their toxin load. One kill eat the liver, the next eat the testicles, then the muscle, the next eat the thyroid, etc. Carrots provide vitamin A in beta-carotene and alpha-carotene form. Carrots also provide fiber and other vimtains/minerals. In addition, there is no risk of lethal vitamin A toxicity from carrots- once you're vitamin A sufficient, the benign process of your skin turning orange is the only result.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:45 AM

Also, GAPS suppose to help with SIBO and it is based on meat/bone broth, a little bit of liver and sauerkraut every day and some very limited cooked vegetables. As for big meals, I don't think my meals are that big.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:42 AM

I don't have acid reflux (at least I am not aware of it). However, I might have SIBO. I got tested for it, but nobody can interpret the results. When I asked her if I had SIBO or not, she said, "that should not be the problem, you need to treat your gastritis first". How can it not be a problem, if my lowest reading was 34 and the limit is 20 ppm? I will stop having bone broth for a while to see if I get better, but I don't have stomach aches - I have slow digestion and fatigue (which I think is totally related to my SIBO). The only thing that makes me feel better is going 0 carb for now.

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on November 14, 2012
at 01:29 PM

Don't quite have the patience for conventional wisdom doctors; I suggest you consider switching. Check out the Paleo Physicians Network: http://paleophysiciansnetwork.com/

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 02:23 PM

Thanks for the link :)

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7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:27 PM

Unless I have some acute condition I generally avoid doctors. My family Doc is a great guy but whenever I've had a complaint he's never really done anything for it unless I push it, and even then he'll just write a prescription for something so I just say thanks but no thanks.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I might have SIBO and I got tested for it. I cannot interpret the test results, and I cannot find any doctor who would. They just don't know what to do with them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 07:05 PM

I don't have any acute conditions, but I need to find a good gastroenterologist.

40befdb27ebc5f02993523f3625bc8c5

on November 14, 2012
at 09:17 PM

^ Why do you need to find a GI if you do not have any acute conditions? Are planning on getting some? Why were you seeing her in the first place?

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:13 PM

I've always gotten pretty good value for the price paid, but I don't go to specialists. I pay attention to the tests run and ask questions about how to improve them. The most useful advice is the non-specific kind, the kind of thing a doctor learns from seeing hundreds of patients. He diagnosed diabetes, put it on me to figure out what I had done wrong, then gave some very useful advice on how to get rid of it. He didn't tell me to give up bone broth and sauerkraut. He told me to get rid of frosted miniwheats. And he's not even paleo.

7a6529ea25b655132fe58d793f95547a

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on November 14, 2012
at 06:33 PM

+1 good points thhq

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on November 14, 2012
at 07:07 PM

You are lucky. This is the second gastroenterologist that I am having an issue with. My gynecologist and my dentist both love me. I think Paleo has ruined my relationship with gastroenterologists.

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on November 14, 2012
at 05:53 PM

I'm feeling rather annoyed by the whole thing, and I am going to someone who is at least a bit more cognizant- functional medicine stuff. But his 'alternative' stuff isn't paleo so much as Dr. Oz + other celebrity docs. The diet recommendations are better than SAD, but the anti-cholesterol stuff on the door, the offer of a flu shot, and ordering a CT scan of my abdomen when an ultrasound would probably have worked- well, he isn't thinking like I am thinking.
What have I got from it? An 'insulin resistance' scare likely brought on by the fact that I eat lower carb than most, and a bunch of tests that came back all peachy keen- but I bet he didn't do that super secret thyroid test the internet tells you you are supposed to get.

I had to make another round of calls to the insurance company and lab company again today, which probably went nowhere. Not my doc's fault, but if I knew I'd get no answers and have to go through all this rigamarole, I wouldn't have gone. I went to get rid of pain, not add more.

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on November 14, 2012
at 12:07 PM

I've never had to ask a doctor for nutritional advice, but even then, I've been given a fair amount of nutritional advice, all of which I politely agree with and then ignore. Michael is right -- nutritional education in med school is not very good, it's obviously all based on the SAD, and according to a friend who is a doctor, in her med school subjects were taught in separate blocks and "nutrition" was when many students took their vacation anyway since it's a less demanding subject.

My husband is a diabetic, and nearly everything he's been told in the 3 years since his diagnosis is utter nonsense and seems geared towards making sure he spends his life on meds (and so far, it's pretty much worked out that way -- he has gotten worse instead of better, and every year has more complications and needs more medications). I don't see how I can blame his doctor -- he's just passing on what the American Diabetic Assoc espouses, and they're supposed to be the experts.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I did not ask her for nutritional advice - I just wanted her to interpret my breath test. But I guess she wanted to cure me. I don't think she is a bad doctor, I just think she does not know. Thanks for your reply.

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Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

on November 14, 2012
at 11:15 AM

Re doctors I have seen who espouse disagreeable views, I generally let it slide... In majority of cases they are in large part the products of a system that is dominated by BigPharma. Nutrition in med school is supposedly pretty badly and scantily done (although, they have a lot to get through obviously lol). So in this context I don't really blame doctors, many (at least at one stage) had good intentions. I'd hope the critical thinking skills they supposedly learnt as part of their training would extend to questioning some of the stuff of 'conventional wisdom' but don't usually get annoyed by it (although I haven't been in situations where annoyance would probably be pretty easey to engende...). Those times where I have though I agree some things can be pretty annoying.

Re some of those points, I don't think they're too bad. Kraut conceivably can be questionable for people with digestive/fodmap issues, and there are propositions behind some of the others that arguably make them more than 'dumb'...

[edited to fix atrocious typing]

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:31 AM

She does not know what fodmaps are. She thinks that kraut is bad for you because cabbage irritates your gut (whatever that means).

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(2934)

on November 14, 2012
at 01:30 PM

Maybe the insoluble fibre? Often doctors, being in a position of authority, don't feel the need to back up their claims with evidence to us poor laypeople with no clue. I agree she sounds disagreeable, but some of those points are contesetable (although other lolworthy I agree...)

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(10611)

on November 14, 2012
at 06:16 PM

This is a health care professional? It sounds like she got a degree in nutrition out of a box of wheaties.

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