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Unwanted weight loss with Paleo: How to stop?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 26, 2011 at 3:19 PM

I'll have to start with: Thank you to my parents for the skinny genes and my life-long apology to those who don't have this. I'm losing weight with Paleo and I don't want to!! I am doing this diet for health reasons. I have Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction and this diet is helping me with energy and I FEEL SO MUCH BETTER! I'm able to walk outside and exercise a bit every day. WHOO HOO! So - before the Paleo lifestyle, I weighed 133-135. (I'm just over 5'9".) Lately I've been 131 and today 130. Part of me says this is the way it is - my weight will settle where it does and I feel good. But I don't want to see this, what I consider, too-skinny body in the mirror. It's in my brain and my emotions. Here's what I ate yesterday: 1. Leftover rotissery chicken, probably medium breast sized portion, soup-bowl sized fruit bowl, almond meal-pumpkin muffin and green tea. 2. Full-fat coconut milk (.75 cup) smoothie with blueberries, a few raspberries, a little spinach and a little flax seed. Large handful of walnuts and a large slice of melon. 3. Indian restaurant chicken - probably 2 medium breast sized portions, soup-bowl sized salad with a lil' oil and vinegar, chai tea with milk (only one cup since I've been avoiding dairy). 4. Baked cod with onion, steamed zucchini, grapes, square of dark chocolate. 5. Sliced 1/2 apple with almond butter, almond meal-pumpkin muffin. Yes, I know: some people would never lose weight when eating this much.
I swear I'm eating until FULL every time. I have more lean meat/poultry or vegs/fruits if I'm still hungry. I think it's because I've cut out almost all of the refined grains, sugar and most bad fats. I'm losing weight despite having high-fat pork sausage 4x last week. Any suggestions on what to add to diet to gain weight or stop losing? I've also started lifting light weights to build muscle. How long does it take to build heavy muscle? Thank you!

81a52efad6effda9eff3a3dcbc5f0ec6

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on October 29, 2011
at 03:34 AM

Yah, "metabolic advantage" alright. The ceiling comes down when you add carbs. That's just indisputable. Btw, I also burn about 1,000 calories per day either lifting / HIT or cardio. So a Paleo couch potato may not have the "advantage" I had/have. U need to go VLC if you want a high ceiling. But what's the point when you'll have no appetite doing VLC?

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on October 27, 2011
at 10:27 PM

Phazo, if you've lost weight from changing your eating habits to LC paleo I don't see how you could consider that natural. If you ate more food, more carbs (which makes it easy to eat more cals) and lifted, you'd gain weight and it would be just as 'natural'. I also tend to be very skinny, but I feel and look stronger and better when I eat more and do the necessary work to weigh more.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on October 27, 2011
at 10:24 PM

Mmm.. I dunno smily. Your set point is probably 125-145 lbs. That doesn't mean that being 122 because you changed to LC paleo is 'natural', or that you'll look or feel your best there.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on October 27, 2011
at 10:22 PM

I like to sautee my veg with coconut oil or tallow, and I eat a lot of mashed potatoes (and turnips, parsnips, etc) with butter and cream. EVOO only in salad dressing usually

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on October 27, 2011
at 06:04 PM

Or check out marksdailyapple.com. He advocates Primal eating (or lacto-Paleo).

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on October 27, 2011
at 05:44 AM

+1 for the n=1 "metabolic advantage" numbers, love it!

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on October 27, 2011
at 05:01 AM

You can find several fine raw milk cheeses at WFM. In addition to the raw cheddar from Organic Valley (both mild and sharp), there are such delicacies as Morbier, a raw cheese with an ash layer in the middle, and raclette, a candidate for the poster child of stinky French cheese.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:21 AM

Sorry I didn't post - yes I am female. :-)

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:20 AM

I love cheese, but gave it up with Paleo and b/c it's so high-calorie. Full fat raw cheese from hormone free cows is hard to find, right? Do they sell it at Whole Foods?

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:19 AM

Thanks. You're right, it's only a little bit of weight, but I don't wanna lose any. At my sickest time, I was in the 120s with daily diarrhea and I didn't look/feel good, so maybe I associate it. OK - I'll try adding more carbs. :-) So you cover your carbs/vegs in what kind of fat: butter, EVOO, gravy or coconut oil?

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:17 AM

I'm female. Wow: low 120s. My hub told me tonight if I settle in the 120s, that's just where my body should be naturally.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:16 AM

Thanks. I'll have to listen to Rob Wolf's podcasts on full-fat dairy to get his opinion.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:15 AM

Thank you. I will add more sweet potatoes and bananas.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:15 AM

Thank you for replies, I do eat grass-fed beef, had brisket tonight. I'll try adding more food & swallow more coconut oil or EVOO.

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on October 27, 2011
at 03:44 AM

What the ?

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

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on October 26, 2011
at 06:27 PM

MDA actually has a post on this topic today (along the lines of ben's advice): http://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-if-i-dont-want-to-lose-weight/#more-24478

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on October 26, 2011
at 05:38 PM

Should read "you've been eating but add" rather than the sentence break. Damn iPhone.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on October 26, 2011
at 05:37 PM

Just reading the subject line I have to simply say: eat more food. There is nothing paleo about this, if you eat less calories than you need for maintenance you will lose weight. Eat the same amount you've been eating. It add another potato, another chicken leg, another tablespoon of coconut oil etc. anything will work, just consume more. There is nothing complicated about this.

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on October 26, 2011
at 04:05 PM

Do you eat beef, ever? It's going to be difficult to gain good weight by eating chicken breasts and white fish. I would suggest grassfed beef if you can get it and afford it. If not, I would suggest incorporating lean cuts of beef. If chicken is your preference, I would suggest dark meat. The fattier cuts will have more Omega 6, but would provide good, dense calories.

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on October 26, 2011
at 04:04 PM

I was in the same boat too about not wanting to lose too much weight. I agree with Pocket Groket about adding some sweet potatoes and some bananas to your diet. I like the purple sweet potatoes that I am lucky enough to find in a local Asian market near my home.

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on October 26, 2011
at 03:58 PM

I was in a similar boat. I would recommend switching up the fruit for some starchy carbs - potatoes, sweet potatoes, bananas, that sort of thing. That did the trick for me.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on October 26, 2011
at 04:04 PM

I was in the same boat too about not wanting to lose too much weight. I agree with Pocket Groket about adding some sweet potatoes and some bananas to your diet. I like the purple sweet potatoes that I am lucky enough to find in a local Asian market near my home.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:15 AM

Thank you. I will add more sweet potatoes and bananas.

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on October 26, 2011
at 04:07 PM

Too much lean meat and fish. Ditch the chicken, go for fatty cuts of beef and pork. Also, like Pocket Groket said, add more starchy carbs. Coconut has actually been found to help with weight loss so maybe stop drinking that for a bit and if you feel comfortable, drink full fat dairy instead. Basically, if you're still losing weight eating that much, the most simple solution would probably be... eat even MORE.
And building muscle depends on your body. If you do heavy lifting religiously, won't take too long to see a difference as long as you're getting proper pre- and post-workout nutrition and you get enough sleep.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:16 AM

Thanks. I'll have to listen to Rob Wolf's podcasts on full-fat dairy to get his opinion.

Medium avatar

(10663)

on October 27, 2011
at 06:04 PM

Or check out marksdailyapple.com. He advocates Primal eating (or lacto-Paleo).

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:38 AM

Carbs will definitely make you gain weight. White rice or sweet potatoes will whet your appetite to eat more calories.

If you don't want to do that, there is another way which may be questionable. Have some pork rinds. I've been experimenting with them to see what the ceiling of my "metabolic advantage" is when I Paleo. When I was very low carbing, I found that I would not gain weight up to like 4000 calories. Now that I'm eating moderate carb Paleo (150g carbs), the ceiling seems to have come down to like 3200 cals or so.

A bag of Baken-ETS pork rinds is 800 calories. I started eating 2 bags everyday for about a week and felt my pants tightening around my rear in 3 days. Sure enough, I gained 5 lbs.

http://www.fritolay.com/our-snacks/baken-ets-traditional.html

Is this Paleo? Sort of. Pork skins and salt. No artificial ingredients. But it seems not all fat is SaFA, which worries me a little that it may not be just pork skin toasted in bacon grease. It's hyperpalatable and addictive -- it's all salt, fried grease, and sodium. Also, too much protein. Two bags will set you back 1,600 calories and 140g of protein.

May not be Paleo but a surefire way to gain weight by eating fat/protein.

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on October 27, 2011
at 05:44 AM

+1 for the n=1 "metabolic advantage" numbers, love it!

81a52efad6effda9eff3a3dcbc5f0ec6

(47)

on October 29, 2011
at 03:34 AM

Yah, "metabolic advantage" alright. The ceiling comes down when you add carbs. That's just indisputable. Btw, I also burn about 1,000 calories per day either lifting / HIT or cardio. So a Paleo couch potato may not have the "advantage" I had/have. U need to go VLC if you want a high ceiling. But what's the point when you'll have no appetite doing VLC?

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B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

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on October 27, 2011
at 04:11 AM

I agree with the general thoughts here, you need to eat more.

You're eating pretty low carb at the moment, I would definitely kick in more carbs, not only for the extra calories but they will probably make you a bit hungrier and you'll feel like eating more.

Sweet potatoes, potatoes, winter squashes, yams, white rice, etc. You could also kick some more fruit, particularly berries.

If you don't do so well with carbs for whatever reason then up the fats, more coconut milk, coconut oil, olive oil, avocados, fattier cuts of meat etc.

I find a low carb diet is fantastic for dropping weight due to it's appetite suppressing effects, whilst it's much easier to eat more on a higher carb diet. I also think this fits nicely with the idea that once a upon a time it would of been more likely that we would of eaten more carbs and calories during the plentiful warmer seasons and lower carb, lower calorie during the colder less plentiful seasons.

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on October 27, 2011
at 03:27 AM

Get genotyped and switch to Genotype/Blood Type diet. Then possibly mix in some feast and famine stuff like The Warrior Diet. Eat more.

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on October 27, 2011
at 03:44 AM

What the ?

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on October 26, 2011
at 04:28 PM

If you are open to adding more dairy, cheese is a great way to add calories.

Go for full-fat raw cheese from hormone-free cows.

C56baa1b4f39839c018180bf63226f7d

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on October 27, 2011
at 05:01 AM

You can find several fine raw milk cheeses at WFM. In addition to the raw cheddar from Organic Valley (both mild and sharp), there are such delicacies as Morbier, a raw cheese with an ash layer in the middle, and raclette, a candidate for the poster child of stinky French cheese.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:20 AM

I love cheese, but gave it up with Paleo and b/c it's so high-calorie. Full fat raw cheese from hormone free cows is hard to find, right? Do they sell it at Whole Foods?

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26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

on October 26, 2011
at 04:27 PM

Hello from another naturally thin person from a small family. :) My little sister has your exact stats, she is very slim indeed...

I wouldn't get too worried about 3-5 lbs. You've probably decreased your BF% and put on a bit of muscle is all - though this might have had quite an effect on how you look in the mirror, especially if you tend to have lower body fat already or gain/lose mostly in certain areas (chest/shoulders are my issue).

HOWEVER unintended weight loss and hormonal disruption is a very real risk for thin people eating low carb/paleo. EAT MORE CARBS, GIRL (ETA: you are a girl, right?) There is absolutely no reason for thin/lean people to limit starch. I feel my best with plenty of carbs every day - 150-250g depending on activity level. I avoid gluten like the plague and also most grains, but I eat lots of white potatoes and white rice, also tubers and root vegetables.

I also eat high calorie and very high in fat, but I want to gain another 10 lbs. I cover all my starches and veg in fats.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:19 AM

Thanks. You're right, it's only a little bit of weight, but I don't wanna lose any. At my sickest time, I was in the 120s with daily diarrhea and I didn't look/feel good, so maybe I associate it. OK - I'll try adding more carbs. :-) So you cover your carbs/vegs in what kind of fat: butter, EVOO, gravy or coconut oil?

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 27, 2011
at 10:22 PM

I like to sautee my veg with coconut oil or tallow, and I eat a lot of mashed potatoes (and turnips, parsnips, etc) with butter and cream. EVOO only in salad dressing usually

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on October 26, 2011
at 04:04 PM

Male or female? I'm a guy with your same height and my weight has naturally gravitated down to the low 120's... it may sound too light, but I eat well. I figure I'm just genetically predisposed to be thin.

F009a38e075dc8b2cd76e849eb505063

(45)

on October 27, 2011
at 04:17 AM

I'm female. Wow: low 120s. My hub told me tonight if I settle in the 120s, that's just where my body should be naturally.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 27, 2011
at 10:24 PM

Mmm.. I dunno smily. Your set point is probably 125-145 lbs. That doesn't mean that being 122 because you changed to LC paleo is 'natural', or that you'll look or feel your best there.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

(7967)

on October 27, 2011
at 10:27 PM

Phazo, if you've lost weight from changing your eating habits to LC paleo I don't see how you could consider that natural. If you ate more food, more carbs (which makes it easy to eat more cals) and lifted, you'd gain weight and it would be just as 'natural'. I also tend to be very skinny, but I feel and look stronger and better when I eat more and do the necessary work to weigh more.

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