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Why am I so tired?!

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 28, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I'm on my 5th week of Paleo and I am absolutely exhausted in the afternoons. Any common reasons why this could be? Could I be missing something from my diet? The obvious thing would be that I'm not getting enough sleep at night, but I'm getting about 7 hours (about the most I can get with two little kids). I've been doing high-intensity workouts several days a week. Any insight would be appreciated!

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

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on March 01, 2012
at 02:43 AM

Yeah, I would wait to be safe, but the site I linked says that it is very gentle compared to caffeine (I would have to agree). I notice it, but it isn't the jittery/stressed out feel I get with coffee. They also say it isn't addictive like caffeine, but one could argue that chocolate itself is addictive.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on March 01, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Unfortunately I haven't had it yet and I think I missed my window. I'm really sensitive to caffeine.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on February 29, 2012
at 11:29 PM

I would make sure not to eat it too late; theobromine (the stimulant in chocolate) lasts a lot longer than caffeine. It is all-around better for you than caffeine, though: http://www.xocoatl.org/caffeine.htm

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 05:36 PM

I skipped my workout this morning. I might do part of it later on today, but I'm taking it easy. I feel really great today...not at all tired.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 05:33 PM

I just bought the lindt 85% today! Exited to have a piece later. I don't have any recipes with avocado (other than guac), but I'm pretty sure I will never tire of them. Eating some right now, actually!

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 29, 2012
at 04:22 PM

Mandy, if you insist on not eating red meat, you must get more nutrients: B12, K2, and eat fish, poultry or egg yolks at every meal. Make the yoghurt from cream, eat cheese. Dr. Emily Deans' blog has some pointers on good nutrition for those who insist on avoiding red meat. Also, have you read Lierre Leith's book? http://lierrekeith.com/vegmyth.htm You really need more nutrients. Your diet is deficient.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on February 29, 2012
at 04:20 PM

lol, I did pull the C-word. It's amazing how much of a lift true dark chocolate gives you. I quit coffee when first on the diet, and when I ate my first half-serving of 90% I felt like I just took crack or something. I highly recommend the lindt 85%, or 90% if you can stomach it. They are the only reasonably-priced brand I've found to not use dairy. That is better. Avocados are an amazing paleo superfood, but I can't seem to keep myself interested in them after I've had it for a few days. Any good condiments/recipes for avocados I should know about?

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:12 PM

Chocolate? Did somebody say, chocolate?!?! Done! Thanks for the info. I had two eggs scrambled with coconut oil and cauliflower for breakfast this morning, avocado, and coffee with coconut milk. That's better, right?

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:10 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I think I need to stop worrying about all of this. I'm so anxious to get into shape, I could be pushing it too hard. Maybe I'll try to do some yoga a couple times a week instead.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:08 PM

Thank you! I'll check these out!

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:55 AM

I kid because I care. Seriously, I like Crossfit. I started doing it in 2004 at the insistence of a friend at work (fitness was important to this work). It definitely served its purpose for me then. Now, I see some flaws with the protocol, but that's another matter. I read your comment above, try adding grass fed ruminants to your diet. They are probably treated pretty humanely, at least up to the point that they get shot in the head. And lastly, keep practicing the handstands. I never got great at them, but frequent practice will really improve the skill - like any skill.

Dc6407193ba441d1438f6f0c06af872b

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on February 29, 2012
at 12:04 AM

Inadequate sleep + crossfit 6x/wk => difficulties. Until you can get enough sleep, you should at least halve the crossfit.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:16 PM

Oh, you're funny;) I have been doing fasts on the days I don't do the xfit class. I should pay attention and see if i have more energy on those days. I fast from about 9pm until 1pm the next day. For the record, I do eat other sources of protein besides chicken, but I had some left-overs. And PS, I haven't learned to walk on my hands....yet;)

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:10 PM

I hope the withdrawal doesn't last too long for you! I still crave chocolate!

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I might cut back a bit or at least take a nap when my girls nap.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Great suggestion, thanks!

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:54 PM

I don't eat red meat or pork (don't kill me!).I stopped eating it 5 years ago because I didn't want to eat animals that were treated poorly.Now that I know more about grassfed meats and sustainable farming, it is possible that I will add it back in. I do eat poultry/fish. You're right, my breakfast was carbs!When I started paleo I was eating that for bkfst before I realized I needed to build my meals around protein.I changed to eating eggs/avocado and felt crummy,so I went back.Maybe I was just detoxing. I'll try it again.I don't mind tough comments..info is good! Quit nursing almost a yearago

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:01 PM

I was eating a "real food diet" before...nothing processed. Still might be detoxing from grains though. Your post made me laugh because I honestly never even considered that I might NEED a nap!

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:00 PM

I wish you all the best. :)

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:00 PM

Mandy, where's the beef? A little tough love here: Your breakfast was carbs. I used to think that a diet like yours was ladylike. It caused me serious health problems. I'd guess you had sweet cravings because your blood sugar was low after a carby breakfast and a workout using up glycogen. Sorry for the tough comments. Are you still nursing? You might like to read Ambimorph's posts and comments. I think you are not getting enough nutrients in your food plan. We need ruminant meat, meat fat, bone/meat broths, lots of egg yolks, offal, butter, fish, and then come plants. ...

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 09:50 PM

Today I had a banana, blueberries, coconut milk, and almonds for breakfast (about a cup total) for breakfast, a hard-boiled egg and 1/2 an apple before my workout. Salad w/ coconut chicken, egg and avocado for lunch, a lara bar (not typical, but I had a sweet craving), dinner will be roasted chicken and roasted veggies. I've been doing crossfit...the class is 2x per week. I do the off-days workouts on my own, but they are from my crossfit class (cardio/lifting/jumping rope/burpees). Total of 6 workouts a week. My goal is to lose weight. I've lost some, but I have about 10 pounds to lose.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 28, 2012
at 09:46 PM

Mandy, could be lots of things. Dr. Emily Deans' blog might be of interest to you. http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com/p/basic-premise-and-monetary-disclaimer.html She, too, is a super-busy mother and has small children.

Fb677d93955eb0fac597e3d94db92980

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on February 28, 2012
at 09:44 PM

Need more info. What are you eating? Are you restricting carbs? What are your goals(fat loss, health, etc.)? What is several? What type of HIIT? Crossfit-like or short sprints? Are you lifting?

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A72f969e98fb82fbaae341d29230b881

(195)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:53 PM

If you are doing crossfit or a crossfit style workout 6x a week, you are most likely wearing out your body. In order to recover from that, you probably need more food and a little more rest. I would say either slow down the workout slightly, eat more, and/or try to get some additional rest.

I don't do crossfit, but I do powerlift and the biggest culprit of being tired and achy is not eating enough.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I might cut back a bit or at least take a nap when my girls nap.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 05:36 PM

I skipped my workout this morning. I might do part of it later on today, but I'm taking it easy. I feel really great today...not at all tired.

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9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

on February 29, 2012
at 04:03 AM

More fat?

It seems like most of your foods were lower in saturated fats, with coconut milk and your eggs being the largest contributors. When I first started I ate a lot of bacon for breakfast to help me get through the day. I would sometimes not even be hungry for lunch. I seem to have gotten better at burning fat, though, because now I can do 4 slices and 3 eggs and have room for more.

Cheese/butter are good dairy fats to add if you allow it (I don't). I do use Lindt 85% dark chocolate as a good high-fat snack (55% RDI in one serving).

If you are crazy like me you could also try sleeping on the floor (or any hard surface). I find that my sleep cycles are more natural than when in a bed once you get used to the newness. It also gives you natural alignment and costs nothing.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on February 29, 2012
at 11:29 PM

I would make sure not to eat it too late; theobromine (the stimulant in chocolate) lasts a lot longer than caffeine. It is all-around better for you than caffeine, though: http://www.xocoatl.org/caffeine.htm

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:12 PM

Chocolate? Did somebody say, chocolate?!?! Done! Thanks for the info. I had two eggs scrambled with coconut oil and cauliflower for breakfast this morning, avocado, and coffee with coconut milk. That's better, right?

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 05:33 PM

I just bought the lindt 85% today! Exited to have a piece later. I don't have any recipes with avocado (other than guac), but I'm pretty sure I will never tire of them. Eating some right now, actually!

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on March 01, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Unfortunately I haven't had it yet and I think I missed my window. I'm really sensitive to caffeine.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on February 29, 2012
at 04:20 PM

lol, I did pull the C-word. It's amazing how much of a lift true dark chocolate gives you. I quit coffee when first on the diet, and when I ate my first half-serving of 90% I felt like I just took crack or something. I highly recommend the lindt 85%, or 90% if you can stomach it. They are the only reasonably-priced brand I've found to not use dairy. That is better. Avocados are an amazing paleo superfood, but I can't seem to keep myself interested in them after I've had it for a few days. Any good condiments/recipes for avocados I should know about?

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on March 01, 2012
at 02:43 AM

Yeah, I would wait to be safe, but the site I linked says that it is very gentle compared to caffeine (I would have to agree). I notice it, but it isn't the jittery/stressed out feel I get with coffee. They also say it isn't addictive like caffeine, but one could argue that chocolate itself is addictive.

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Af3e3615beba642bcafd0f21d64d74f7

on February 28, 2012
at 10:56 PM

Try dispersing each of your breakfast items across each meal, and then make your breakfast fat (grassfed butter, coconut oil, olive oil, bacon grease, etc.) & protein.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Great suggestion, thanks!

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on February 28, 2012
at 09:45 PM

You may need to eat more food.

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Ed1130126ed818a751e7a72feb487584

on February 29, 2012
at 03:30 AM

You could probably benefit from more protein in your breakfast. You could have what you listed and just make a smoothie out of it with a raw egg or two mixed in. A rule of thumb I've heard is 30g of protein within 30 mins of waking. Also your cortisol could be pushed too high with all the workouts - try some slow light weights in parasympathetic exercises with deep, slow breathing as an alternative to a couple of workouts a week. I also tend to get too paranoid about burning calories daily with hectic workouts but sometimes it can be counterproductive and I need to remind myself that it's not just a matter of calories in/calories out.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:10 PM

Thanks for the feedback! I think I need to stop worrying about all of this. I'm so anxious to get into shape, I could be pushing it too hard. Maybe I'll try to do some yoga a couple times a week instead.

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A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

on February 28, 2012
at 10:57 PM

I just returned home from a 12 mile hike and I feel great. In fact, I could go out for a run right now and have plenty of energy. I know what you're thinking: no big deal, I do Crossfit, I could walk 12 miles on my hands, in fact I???ve done it and it???s a WOD called ???Knuckles???. Here is the part that will blow your mind though. I did not eat a banana, or an apple, or a Lara Bar before my hike. I didn't eat anything before my hike, or during the hike. I had been fasting since dinner last night and then hiked today beginning at Noon and ending at about 4 o'clock. Then I broke my fast. Doing this sort of thing takes some getting used to.

I know that I'm teasing you a bit and I don't mean to be mean, but honestly, if I ate a carby/sugary breakfast like you did, I would be really tired in the afternoons as well. I'm not suggesting that you don't eat carbs. I'm not afraid of carbs. I eat a moderate carb diet, but I do keep the carbs limited to my post workout meals. If I eat them early in the day they seem to make me hungry and then crash.

Good luck with things. Stick with it and start trying some changes. See what works best for you. I would start with added protein. By the way, based on your diet I just bought some shares of Tyson Chicken (TSN closed today at $16.12 per share ??? I think a one year price target of $100 is reasonable). Again, kidding, but perhaps add some protein sources other than chicken and eggs.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:16 PM

Oh, you're funny;) I have been doing fasts on the days I don't do the xfit class. I should pay attention and see if i have more energy on those days. I fast from about 9pm until 1pm the next day. For the record, I do eat other sources of protein besides chicken, but I had some left-overs. And PS, I haven't learned to walk on my hands....yet;)

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on February 29, 2012
at 01:55 AM

I kid because I care. Seriously, I like Crossfit. I started doing it in 2004 at the insistence of a friend at work (fitness was important to this work). It definitely served its purpose for me then. Now, I see some flaws with the protocol, but that's another matter. I read your comment above, try adding grass fed ruminants to your diet. They are probably treated pretty humanely, at least up to the point that they get shot in the head. And lastly, keep practicing the handstands. I never got great at them, but frequent practice will really improve the skill - like any skill.

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81348acb7b886e2b32ca915d250268f3

(1022)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:50 PM

I've just gone full paleo (about a week and a half in) and feel not quite at my peak as far as energy goes. The last thing I kicked were grains (rye bread in particular), and from what I've read you can go through a bit of a withdrawal. I'm guessing that's what I'm experiencing and maybe you as well, I'm hoping it doesn't last too much longer cos I do get the occasional craving for a nice piece of toast with a slab of peanut butter on it, lol.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 11:10 PM

I hope the withdrawal doesn't last too long for you! I still crave chocolate!

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73b72d74565dcf088158a97e39ae1d5e

on February 28, 2012
at 09:50 PM

A few things:

If you were eating SAD before, you may be detoxing. That takes energy.

You may just flat-out need a nap.

You may not be eating enough food.

OR

all 3.

Ae3b7ea9f3755af32287825db8d98796

(2022)

on February 28, 2012
at 10:01 PM

I was eating a "real food diet" before...nothing processed. Still might be detoxing from grains though. Your post made me laugh because I honestly never even considered that I might NEED a nap!

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