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Post-meal exhaustion on Paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 13, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Hi there,

I've been keeping strict VLC (<20 g / day, no fruit, no wheat, no sugar, etc. etc.) paleo for the last 6 weeks. For the first 4, I felt fantastic every day, was never tired, and have shedded nearly 30 pounds since I began (I started at 330 lbs and am now 302). I am a 25 yo male.

An issue that I've been dealing with for the past 2 weeks is a markedly reduced appetite - to the point where I literally have to force feed myself. This typically occurrs around 5-6pm, and the meal consists of a chipotle salad bowl with 2 servings of chicken and 1 of steak, sour cream, guacamole, tomato salsa and cheese. It comes out to ~1000 calories per the Chipotle website.

Here's the problem - after eating the chipotle meal described above, I am totally exhausted - I get the same feeling I used to get after eating an even moderate-carb meal, and end up passing out for an hour (sometimes two, and yesterday evening for 3, which is why I'm now worried enough to write this email). After I wake up, I have a decent amount of energy, but still nowhere near what I had in my first few weeks eating this way.

I understand that I am probably not getting enough calories, and am thinking of ways to up my caloric intake taking into account my serious lack of appetite...but for now, I'd really just like to be able to eat paleo without passing out. Any advice would be much appreciated.

E2456a3b347d37b526a6b8293faae77b

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Awesome! Keep us updated!

E2456a3b347d37b526a6b8293faae77b

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:42 PM

TimeToShrink - do you think that the tiredness could be relieved by adjusting your macronutrient ratio to 20% carbohydrates, 65% fat and 15% protein? That's what this website advises: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/question-of-macronutrient-ratios/ I'm new to paleo too and also feel sluggish after a heavy meal.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 06:36 PM

thank you CaveRat! I will be experimenting today to see if nightshades are causing the issue, or if its just the sheer quantity of food I'm eating at once...if I pass out again today, I will be getting that blood glucose meter.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 06:35 PM

Alan - there's a big note on that link that says the carbs listed for the romaine lettuce are incorrect...per the chipotlefan nutrition calculator, the lettuce is only supposed to have 5 calories and no carbs...but later today I will be experimenting with removing the tomato salsa and lettuce, and will work to eat the meal at a far slower pace...hopefully this works!

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 05:10 PM

CaveRat - I will be having the chipotle meal described above later today, sans tomato salsa / lettuce + will eat it alot slower, and will report back. Dairy has never given me a problem in the past, and neither have nightshades, but I'm willing to experiment...if I still have to pass out, then its time to get a blood glucose meter

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 05:08 PM

CaveRat - Understood! I'm going to be augmenting with grass-fed butter and some more meat at another meal in the day...it feels like force-feeding but I know I have to do it to keep the weight coming off.

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on May 13, 2011
at 07:46 PM

I think one should eliminate a blood sugar response first, especially if the response is immediate tired/sleepy. It's both common and very easy to detect (definitive with a meter). An immune response is usually a little *sicker* feeling. Note also that he used to eat junk but didn't always have that effect: I found the same, some carbs (rice gluten used in Dim Sum for example) made me almost pass out, but a bowl of cookie dough didn't. Big meals also would concentrate any sugars so the suggestions are good. Lactose can be a problem - but if it's cultured (e.g. kefir) it's usually OK.

9e20abb05f3f6e3cc4bb107f8980aecd

(5939)

on May 13, 2011
at 06:59 PM

ROB, nearly all foods can cause an immune response if the gut is leaky. Fat can carry fat-soluble toxins like lipopolysaccharides in from the gut post-meal. Histamine intolerance is another possibility. TimeToShrink, sensitivity to all carbs suggests some kind of gut dysbiosis with pathogens that feed on carbs, such as bacteria. This is something you should work on remedying with probiotics, fermented vegetables, antimicrobial foods like garlic and herbs like turmeric and oregano, good nutrition (via supplements if necessary), and other strategies.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 13, 2011
at 05:57 PM

oops - typo. I meant "...trying to combine both paleo ideas AND low-CALORIE eating"!

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 13, 2011
at 05:21 PM

and just in case this is you: don't fall into the trap of 'calorie-restrictive paleo' - trying to combine both paleo ideas AND low-carb eating. Trust me, I know it's tempting. I felt really clever when I tried it and it worked for like three days. Make sure you're getting LOTS of calories. It feels insane to eat more butter and fat than you ever did before - but as long as you're not eating the carbs it really works.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 13, 2011
at 04:20 PM

This sounds a lot like a sugar/insulin response - used to happen to me all the time and until I got a blood glucose tester (http://goo.gl/oJJmU - I recommend this all the time so apologies if you've seen it before!). Is this a Chipotle brand salad, or a home-made recipe? If brand I would be very suspicious of the sugar - restaurants sneak in a ton wherever they can! Also - It'd avoid soybean oil. For dressings use olive at least. And get plenty of coconut oil to keep your calories up while you're at it :-)

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:07 PM

Paul - per eating starch, I just do very very poorly on any sort of carbohydrates...water retention, puffy eyes, tiredness, etc. Other than the post-meal knockout, I haven't felt this good since I was in 11th grade playing football...

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:04 PM

maybe it is just the calories...although prior to this diet I would definitely put away 1500+ calories at a meal and not feel nearly as tired (big mac, large fries, medium vanilla shake, and a 20 pc mcnugget...oh yeah baby lol)...and that was after a full day of poor eating as well

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:02 PM

kelly - thanks for the encouragement! i am essentially doing IF at this point with my appetite where it is - the one meal at 5 or 6pm from chipotle, and the rest of the time I am drinking unsweetened iced tea, coffee, or water (I get through probably 100+ oz of water / unsweetened iced tea a day, have been doing that for a while)...no snacks, I simply don't have the appetite (it feels very weird to be saying this haha)...the only time I was snacking was my first 2 weeks of paleo, just eating full-fat string cheese and sunflower seeds to overcome latent carb cravings, but those are gone now

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:00 PM

ben - the problem with the 40-40-20 ratio is that its essentially how I ate before i went paleo, and I was consistently putting weight on / feeling exhausted. I know my body does horribly on carbohydrates - I've known this for years even before getting into paleo (I started feeling terrible after a carby meal in my senior year of high school, and tried to avoid them before exams / during finals week in college with no real scientific basis other than I felt like crap when I ate them)...maybe upping the fat would make more sense? right now I'm at 45/5/50 pro carb fat...

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:57 PM

I think I'd be comfortable accelerating exercise by 1 month (the original plan was 12 weeks in, I'm 6 weeks in so far so in another 2 weeks). I just really don't want to cause any permanent damage to my joints being this size...plus want to give my body as much leeway as possible to adjust to the stress of this new diet before adding on the stress of exercise...but I am definitely looking forward to it!

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:54 PM

do you have any links about overeating and an insulin response? there are only 12g of carbs in the meal I'm describing (per the Chipotle website), so I thought I was safe there...very curious if this is indeed true. It feels just like the insulin response I have after eatings carbs though, so you might be on to something. starting next week I'll be able to do the 500-700 cals / meal thing, I will definitely try it out (need to get to the grocery store and stock up on stuff this weekend for the work week)

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:52 PM

for tonight's dinner, I'm going to remove the tomato salsa and see what happens...although I have always loved tomatoes! it will be painful to let them go if they're what's causing the problem...but c'est la vie

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:51 PM

wrt the soybean oil - would this cause tiredness post-meal? I wasn't the kid that did well in science class, so its tough for me to follow all the discussions about different oils...

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on May 13, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Keep in mind that they use soy bean oil in everything except the cheese and sourcream...

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on May 13, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Like jaminet says too I'd say tinker with what you're actually eating: ditch the VLC and try a 40-40-20 ratio of pro-carb-fat. See what happens. i've found that it keeps me alert and no post-meal tiredness. On VLC, deep in ketosis for over one week by far, I'd still have the general lack of bounce, if you will. Not a particular fatigue after eating directly but definitely no bounce in my step that a more elevated level of starch seems to give me.

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on May 13, 2011
at 02:04 PM

Paul, what if someone feels tired after consuming a meal without foods that cause an immune response?

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on May 13, 2011
at 01:24 PM

Hi Paul, Nice to see you here on paleohacks.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 13, 2011
at 01:23 PM

Chipotle cooks in soybean oil and is to be avoided. http://huntgatherlove.com/content/soybean-oil-week-lets-tell-chipotle-no-soybean-oil

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on May 13, 2011
at 12:56 PM

Indeed, If you're worried about your appetite, now might be a good time to rev up the engines and start exercising. That'll help get your night time appetite back. Now that I am an early riser too (at 210 lbs, I could have slept all day) I exercise in the morning or just do all my chores before work so I can go hiking afterward.

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(195)

on May 13, 2011
at 12:54 PM

I wouldn't think 1000 calories a day is enough for a 302 pound male. Chipotle, as healthy as it claims to be, still has some "spices" and marinades that may also be affecting how you feel after consuming it. You may also be reacting to a large protein and fat load.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 12:50 PM

Thanks Julie! I actually don't experience any nausea, I just get that dead-tired feeling right after eating this meal...very very similar to how I would feel after crushing some pasta or french fries back in the day. Leading up to the meal, on an empty stomach all day, I feel very very VERY good - I can't emphasize this enough haha. Night and day pre and post paleo

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 12:47 PM

I actually feel awesome on an empty stomach, all day leading up to the 5-6pm Chipotle meal i described...I need alot less sleep and I wake up of my own volition at 6am every day these days. Starting to get antsy as well - I wasn't planning on introducing exercise until about 12 weeks in (to preserve joints, etc.) but I may have to start...literally everything on this diet has been great except for these post-meal knockouts.

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9e20abb05f3f6e3cc4bb107f8980aecd

on May 13, 2011
at 12:58 PM

A common cause of post-meal fatigue is an immune response to food. Your meal has a lot of dairy and nightshades, both of which can cause immune responses in people with leaky guts.

I think you should (a) not force-feed yourself but (b) eat a more balanced diet with some starch (which will help improve your gut integrity) and fewer immunogenic foods. Try swapping out dairy and nightshades for other foods, but adding in a few hundred calories of carbs.

9e20abb05f3f6e3cc4bb107f8980aecd

(5939)

on May 13, 2011
at 06:59 PM

ROB, nearly all foods can cause an immune response if the gut is leaky. Fat can carry fat-soluble toxins like lipopolysaccharides in from the gut post-meal. Histamine intolerance is another possibility. TimeToShrink, sensitivity to all carbs suggests some kind of gut dysbiosis with pathogens that feed on carbs, such as bacteria. This is something you should work on remedying with probiotics, fermented vegetables, antimicrobial foods like garlic and herbs like turmeric and oregano, good nutrition (via supplements if necessary), and other strategies.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 13, 2011
at 07:46 PM

I think one should eliminate a blood sugar response first, especially if the response is immediate tired/sleepy. It's both common and very easy to detect (definitive with a meter). An immune response is usually a little *sicker* feeling. Note also that he used to eat junk but didn't always have that effect: I found the same, some carbs (rice gluten used in Dim Sum for example) made me almost pass out, but a bowl of cookie dough didn't. Big meals also would concentrate any sugars so the suggestions are good. Lactose can be a problem - but if it's cultured (e.g. kefir) it's usually OK.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 05:10 PM

CaveRat - I will be having the chipotle meal described above later today, sans tomato salsa / lettuce + will eat it alot slower, and will report back. Dairy has never given me a problem in the past, and neither have nightshades, but I'm willing to experiment...if I still have to pass out, then its time to get a blood glucose meter

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:07 PM

Paul - per eating starch, I just do very very poorly on any sort of carbohydrates...water retention, puffy eyes, tiredness, etc. Other than the post-meal knockout, I haven't felt this good since I was in 11th grade playing football...

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 13, 2011
at 01:24 PM

Hi Paul, Nice to see you here on paleohacks.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:52 PM

for tonight's dinner, I'm going to remove the tomato salsa and see what happens...although I have always loved tomatoes! it will be painful to let them go if they're what's causing the problem...but c'est la vie

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on May 13, 2011
at 02:04 PM

Paul, what if someone feels tired after consuming a meal without foods that cause an immune response?

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on May 13, 2011
at 01:53 PM

I believe you're eating too much at one time, which kicks off a big insulin response even though you are eating low carb. Try eating 3x a day with about 500-700 cals per meal. That's about 5-6 oz of protein with some good fat and some veggies.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:54 PM

do you have any links about overeating and an insulin response? there are only 12g of carbs in the meal I'm describing (per the Chipotle website), so I thought I was safe there...very curious if this is indeed true. It feels just like the insulin response I have after eatings carbs though, so you might be on to something. starting next week I'll be able to do the 500-700 cals / meal thing, I will definitely try it out (need to get to the grocery store and stock up on stuff this weekend for the work week)

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on May 13, 2011
at 08:33 PM

I've said some of this in comments but thought I'd also make it an 'answer' :-)

Anyway, some thoughts:

  • What you're describing sounds a LOT like a sugar crash. Suddenly deeply tired, like you could lay right down on the sidewalk and doze for even just a few minutes? Feel like pulling the car over to the curb so you can doze? A "sugar crash" btw isn't usually about too little sugar in the blood but too much: after years on a SAD diet the body gets resistant to the insulin which is supposed to clear out the toxic level of glucose quickly (usually into fat - thus obesity and other ills), and so more and more is produced but sometimes can't keep up with the demand, and blood sugar rises (resulting in sleepiness). This is pre-diabetes btw, and can evolve into diabetes if kept up.

You can determine if this is the case with a simple and cheap blood glucose meter (I apologize - again - for the repetition! I think I'm turning into an obnoxious BGM evangelist!) It's just so simple to know what's happening re carbs - why spend months guessing, or chasing down obscure allergies that may or may not be the cause?

  • An immune response IS always possible of course but takes a while to isolate definitively.

  • 'Starvation' is very risky! That clear-headed hollow feeling where you feel like you're finally powerful? That feeling of pride? For me I've learned that's a sign to run not walk to the nearest cube of Kerrygold! Once in a while it's fantastic, but on a regular basis it's a time bomb for binging. If it's between your will and your body your body will ultimately win every time! Make sure you have plenty of good calories - give your body what it really needs and the weight will fall off. You can turn it into a single meal, but be careful you're not getting too many accumulative carbs - some "starch" might be ok but not all in one big dose.

  • Be very suspicious with anything from a 'chain' restaurant. Their ingredients will have tons of sugar, and the meats will be too low fat or injected with sugar and salt - and not all gets reported in the disclosures. Best, make your own. Add more interesting greens (I'm hooked on the loose Arugula) or your own meat.

  • Congratulations on your fantastic progress!!

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 06:36 PM

thank you CaveRat! I will be experimenting today to see if nightshades are causing the issue, or if its just the sheer quantity of food I'm eating at once...if I pass out again today, I will be getting that blood glucose meter.

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Ee7ee29e000bd4918c06ff75b6b1bb12

(195)

on May 13, 2011
at 12:48 PM

That happens to me when I am in deep ketosis after going very low carb. I also experience nausea and poor sleep. The only thing that helps is to raise my carbs a bit.

You'll have to find the level that works for you, giving you more energy, but still allowing weight loss. No need to force something if you feel like crap. Paleo doesn't always equal very low carb eating. It's a personal thing. I wish you success!

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:00 PM

ben - the problem with the 40-40-20 ratio is that its essentially how I ate before i went paleo, and I was consistently putting weight on / feeling exhausted. I know my body does horribly on carbohydrates - I've known this for years even before getting into paleo (I started feeling terrible after a carby meal in my senior year of high school, and tried to avoid them before exams / during finals week in college with no real scientific basis other than I felt like crap when I ate them)...maybe upping the fat would make more sense? right now I'm at 45/5/50 pro carb fat...

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 12:50 PM

Thanks Julie! I actually don't experience any nausea, I just get that dead-tired feeling right after eating this meal...very very similar to how I would feel after crushing some pasta or french fries back in the day. Leading up to the meal, on an empty stomach all day, I feel very very VERY good - I can't emphasize this enough haha. Night and day pre and post paleo

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on May 13, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Like jaminet says too I'd say tinker with what you're actually eating: ditch the VLC and try a 40-40-20 ratio of pro-carb-fat. See what happens. i've found that it keeps me alert and no post-meal tiredness. On VLC, deep in ketosis for over one week by far, I'd still have the general lack of bounce, if you will. Not a particular fatigue after eating directly but definitely no bounce in my step that a more elevated level of starch seems to give me.

E2456a3b347d37b526a6b8293faae77b

(758)

on May 16, 2011
at 03:42 PM

TimeToShrink - do you think that the tiredness could be relieved by adjusting your macronutrient ratio to 20% carbohydrates, 65% fat and 15% protein? That's what this website advises: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/question-of-macronutrient-ratios/ I'm new to paleo too and also feel sluggish after a heavy meal.

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0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 11:04 PM

Hey guys!

So I experimented with the meal today - below is what I ate:

Chipotle salad bowl (very little lettuce)

2 servings of chicken 1 serving of steak 1 serving of cheese Hot salsa (not the tomato-based pico) 2 sides of sour cream 1 side of guacamole

I feel a LOT better! Before, I was including the pico de gallo in pretty sizable amounts. I wasn't able to slow down my eating like I had hoped (too damn delicious), but I definitely don't feel like I did after this meal in the past two weeks. I can feel a faint "tiredness", but its nothing like before, and I'm chalking it up to this just being a pretty hefty dose of calories / protein / fat to break a 20+ hr fast.

So maybe its nightshades...or just the latent sugars in the tomatoes themselves?

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Awesome! Keep us updated!

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on May 13, 2011
at 06:02 PM

I originally read about keeping calories under 500 per meal 15 years ago in Enter the Zone by Barry Sears. That was my introduction to the problems caused by too much insulin. This one point seems to prove out in my experience. Also, the romaine lettuce in the Chipotle salad is surprisingly high in carbs. http://dailyburn.com/nutrition/romaine_lettuce_12_cup_calories 1 cup is 24 grams. Quite a difference from Chipotle's assessment. Try different meal combinations and macronutrient ratios and see what works for you. The ideal is to feel satiated for 4-5 hours while feeling awake. I eat about 15 grams of carb per meal, which is equivalent to 1 piece of bread or 1/2 cup rice or 1 cup of non-starchy vegetables. When I kept that carb level but increased protein and fat, I started gaining. when I went back to 5 oz of protein and a little less fat, I started losing again. as much as I wish it weren't so, I believe calories do count somewhat. But the only way I can reduce calories is to eat low carb, because high carb meals just makes me hungry and sleepy.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 14, 2011
at 06:35 PM

Alan - there's a big note on that link that says the carbs listed for the romaine lettuce are incorrect...per the chipotlefan nutrition calculator, the lettuce is only supposed to have 5 calories and no carbs...but later today I will be experimenting with removing the tomato salsa and lettuce, and will work to eat the meal at a far slower pace...hopefully this works!

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on May 13, 2011
at 02:02 PM

Could it be that you are eating too much calories in one meal? I find that I usually feel tired after I consume my first meal after fasting, which usually consists of close to 2000 calories.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:04 PM

maybe it is just the calories...although prior to this diet I would definitely put away 1500+ calories at a meal and not feel nearly as tired (big mac, large fries, medium vanilla shake, and a 20 pc mcnugget...oh yeah baby lol)...and that was after a full day of poor eating as well

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on May 13, 2011
at 01:24 PM

When I'm in full blown ketosis I do note something like nervous energy and sometimes i get some aching (like flu?). I start drinking tons of water, I think this might help flush some of the keytones out. I also see it as a time to throw myself into some exercise or strenuous activity to burn off this energy...get busy with that energy!

Maybe fasting instead of eating is worth a try (eat those calories in 2 big meals + snacks)....but be prepared to adjust your calories, once exercising you'll need it to keep your 'furnace' burning!!

I would also change up the meal a bit, as suggested above, maybe the nightshades could be an issue for you and you aren't aware of it. Something could be going on, play around with different foods and see if you note any changes in how you feel.

keep up the great work!!

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 04:02 PM

kelly - thanks for the encouragement! i am essentially doing IF at this point with my appetite where it is - the one meal at 5 or 6pm from chipotle, and the rest of the time I am drinking unsweetened iced tea, coffee, or water (I get through probably 100+ oz of water / unsweetened iced tea a day, have been doing that for a while)...no snacks, I simply don't have the appetite (it feels very weird to be saying this haha)...the only time I was snacking was my first 2 weeks of paleo, just eating full-fat string cheese and sunflower seeds to overcome latent carb cravings, but those are gone now

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on May 13, 2011
at 12:44 PM

Maybe you shouldn't force-feed yourself. If you're not hungry, don't eat. Right now, I wouldn't worry about calories - eat when you're hungry, eat the right stuff and eat until you're full. I know that if I have a full meal at lunch time, I'm good for a long time, and if I eat when I'm not hungry, my stomach takes energy away to process the food I don't need to eat, especially if I eat a really big meal I'm not hungry for.

Are you exhausted before you eat? Do you eat the same thing for dinner for weeks on end? I would suggest that you try eating something different, and just listen to your body for now. If you're hungry, it will let you know.

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 03:57 PM

I think I'd be comfortable accelerating exercise by 1 month (the original plan was 12 weeks in, I'm 6 weeks in so far so in another 2 weeks). I just really don't want to cause any permanent damage to my joints being this size...plus want to give my body as much leeway as possible to adjust to the stress of this new diet before adding on the stress of exercise...but I am definitely looking forward to it!

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(1546)

on May 13, 2011
at 12:56 PM

Indeed, If you're worried about your appetite, now might be a good time to rev up the engines and start exercising. That'll help get your night time appetite back. Now that I am an early riser too (at 210 lbs, I could have slept all day) I exercise in the morning or just do all my chores before work so I can go hiking afterward.

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(9948)

on May 13, 2011
at 01:23 PM

Chipotle cooks in soybean oil and is to be avoided. http://huntgatherlove.com/content/soybean-oil-week-lets-tell-chipotle-no-soybean-oil

0e08acfda572e00098d774ddaba9dbde

on May 13, 2011
at 12:47 PM

I actually feel awesome on an empty stomach, all day leading up to the 5-6pm Chipotle meal i described...I need alot less sleep and I wake up of my own volition at 6am every day these days. Starting to get antsy as well - I wasn't planning on introducing exercise until about 12 weeks in (to preserve joints, etc.) but I may have to start...literally everything on this diet has been great except for these post-meal knockouts.

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(195)

on May 13, 2011
at 12:54 PM

I wouldn't think 1000 calories a day is enough for a 302 pound male. Chipotle, as healthy as it claims to be, still has some "spices" and marinades that may also be affecting how you feel after consuming it. You may also be reacting to a large protein and fat load.

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