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2 weeks on paleo and I still feel like crap.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 14, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I'm about to start my 3rd week of Paleo and I feel like crap. I'm 95% paleo, 5% little cheats like 1 small slice of garlic bread or 1 marshmallow once a week. Dairy free, gluten free, processed foods free, caffiene free. I'm allergic to gluten, which is why I started this life style change to begin with ( I was starting to get bleeding in my intestines... Scary stuff). Problem is that I'm feeling like absolute crap all the time. I'm sleeping 10 hrs a night because I'm so exhausted. Walking a mile with my dog is a personal challenge. Mental concentration is hard. And I'm breaking out with really bad acne on my face and chest, which I haven't had a problem with since high school. I'm a former fast food junkie, probably eating it 5 times a week, diet coke addict drinking 3 cans a day, and live a high stress life as a full time student, working full time as well. Is there anything I can do to feel better quicker? Or do I just need to face what feels like withdrawal head on and push through it? Oh and Fitday says that based on my weight and height I should be eating 3300 calories a day. Even though I eat a lot, I'm not reaching anywhere near that, which is fine, but could that be making me feel crappy?

Right now my average day looks like: Breakfast: 4 Eggs from organically fed chickens (family owned), and about a cup of mixed melon and berries. Sometimes if I'm super hungry I'll throw in a can of green beans too.

Lunch: some kind of poultry or tuna, usually a big can of chicken breast (in water, not salted), with a teaspoon of light mayo made from olive oil (that 50 cal stuff), some form of greens (salad, green beans, mixed veggies, etc.), and possibly more fruit (berries and melons so they don't upset my stomach).

Dinner: Red meats, mixed greens, sometimes corn (even though it's starchy). Sometimes salmon and zucchini/onions mix.

Snacks:nuts, dried fruit

And about 2 liters of non salted seltzer water a day to help with the soda cravings and the hunger.

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on October 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Bacon! Good idea.

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on October 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Everyone is different indeed! I eat berries and fruit to regulate my bowels. With out them I'm super constipated. Sorry if that's too much info, but it's true. And I have a lot of cravings. Mostly caffeine.

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on October 16, 2012
at 01:00 AM

Very, very true!

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:59 AM

I think it might be caffeine withdrawal too!

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:58 AM

I should have prefaced by saying that the bleeding has stopped now and that it wasn't very severe (I'm in healthcare and have seen a lot worse in my patients). It was more of a wake up call. I've also known about my gluten allergy for a few years and know the effect that a small piece of garlic bread has on my body. It's about 30 mins in the bathroom and feeling like crap that night, but not for two weeks. Probiotics upset my stomach, ive tried various kinds, so I eat fruit and have very normal bowel movements for the first time ever. I'm fine with pickles. Don't like sauerkraut. Thanks!

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on October 15, 2012
at 11:15 PM

The starches in processed food are often from grains, often hyrdrolyzed (heavily processed for certain properties by "benevolent" companies like Cargill). They don't belong in a Paleo diet, whether you believe in low carb or not.

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on October 15, 2012
at 04:24 PM

I agree with the salt. You need a lot more salt because you aren't eating processed food anymore and now you can become deficient. You actually need salt in your diet and without it you will feel like crap, no energy, lethargic and lots of muscle cramps.

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on October 15, 2012
at 01:41 AM

I agree you definitely need more fat!

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on October 15, 2012
at 12:22 AM

Right. Tiny cheats are no problem for most people. For you, with bleeding intestines, 100% period! No need to avoid paleo starches, though. Paleo needn't be low carb. Maybe later you'll go low carb, but I'm not sure I'd so it now. The last thing you need now is low carb flu in addition to everything else! BTW most olive oil mayo still has other bad oils in them. Just eat grass-fed meat and wild caught fish. Forget the chicken breasts. You need fats too, not just protein.

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:11 PM

corn and green beans aren't paleo. try some squash, especially as it is in season now too

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:05 PM

but yea... probably just "carb flu".. either stick it out or incorporate some root veggies like parsnips/sweet potatoes etc

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:05 PM

you may think a "small" garlic bread is a small cheat... to your body it's pretty big (studies have shown that in sensitive individuals a TINY exposure of gluten (minute, smaller than the size of a thumbnail) can create inflammation responses for up to six months

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:25 PM

Eat MORE fat & more carbs! Doesn't sound like you are getting enough calories. And don't limit salt!

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on October 15, 2012
at 04:24 PM

I agree with the salt. You need a lot more salt because you aren't eating processed food anymore and now you can become deficient. You actually need salt in your diet and without it you will feel like crap, no energy, lethargic and lots of muscle cramps.

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on October 15, 2012
at 01:41 AM

I agree you definitely need more fat!

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:23 PM

I would say if you're having bleeding intestines and you're still having little cheats with grains "5% little cheats like 1 small slice of garlic bread or 1 marshmallow once a week" (Marshmallows are usually coated in cornstarch) THAT's the reason you still feel like crap. For your health you MUST eliminate all grains, not even a little tiny bit every once in a while is OK. I've read that it can take your gut MONTHS to recover from grain exposure, so you haven't even been grain free long enough to start feeling better. You really have to commit to NO grains--NONE.

And watch for hidden grains in the foods you eat. I looked up ingredients for light mayo with olive oil and they ALL have STARCHES in them as well as soybean oil--in many cases those starches come from GRAINS. These are no no's. Try making your own mayo at home, it's not that hard and you will know exactly what goes in it. Never skimp on good fats for manufactured "lite" foods full of industrial oils, starches, and unnecessary sugars. They are NOT paleo!

To combat induction flu (if that's what you have) you need potassium and sodium. Broth is a good source, but make it homemade because most commercial broths and bullion cubes have added starches, and often MSG.

If you still feel bad after another week or two of making these changes, you should look into an elimination diet like GAPS.

And are you taking/eating any probiotics? You need to heal your gut, and they are crucial. If your gut can't handle lacto fermented veggies like sauerkraut and pickles right now (and it sounds like it may not), you can get the benefit just by putting the sauerkraut or pickle juice into your broth and other recipes.

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on October 15, 2012
at 12:22 AM

Right. Tiny cheats are no problem for most people. For you, with bleeding intestines, 100% period! No need to avoid paleo starches, though. Paleo needn't be low carb. Maybe later you'll go low carb, but I'm not sure I'd so it now. The last thing you need now is low carb flu in addition to everything else! BTW most olive oil mayo still has other bad oils in them. Just eat grass-fed meat and wild caught fish. Forget the chicken breasts. You need fats too, not just protein.

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:58 AM

I should have prefaced by saying that the bleeding has stopped now and that it wasn't very severe (I'm in healthcare and have seen a lot worse in my patients). It was more of a wake up call. I've also known about my gluten allergy for a few years and know the effect that a small piece of garlic bread has on my body. It's about 30 mins in the bathroom and feeling like crap that night, but not for two weeks. Probiotics upset my stomach, ive tried various kinds, so I eat fruit and have very normal bowel movements for the first time ever. I'm fine with pickles. Don't like sauerkraut. Thanks!

3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

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on October 15, 2012
at 11:15 PM

The starches in processed food are often from grains, often hyrdrolyzed (heavily processed for certain properties by "benevolent" companies like Cargill). They don't belong in a Paleo diet, whether you believe in low carb or not.

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on October 15, 2012
at 01:48 AM

I think you might be underestimating your small cheats. When we spread them out and do little bits here and there, we can make a lot seem like a little. I can see lots that you're eating that may not be the best choices with your health concerns, like the melons, canned beans, nuts and dried fruit.

Understand that I'm not trying to make you feel bad, for all of us, it takes a huge amount of effort to break old habits, root out the bad choices, and be really honest with ourselves. And of course, cheating is exceptionally human.

Concentrate on whole foods, not canned, and eat until you're full. Add more fats, like everyone says. Reveiw the shopping lists at Whole30, marksdailyapple.com, or whatever sites you like, and switch out the foods that aren't working. Sleep, eat, relax. It's not a test. I'm sure it will change for you.

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on October 15, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Agree remove the cheats, corn, and try to cut down the berries and fruits. I am a little over two weeks in and I only drink water and have had no issues with cravings. Not everyone is the same but when I eat fruit even berries I am hungrier. If I eat protein/veggies/fats I am full and energetic.

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on October 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Everyone is different indeed! I eat berries and fruit to regulate my bowels. With out them I'm super constipated. Sorry if that's too much info, but it's true. And I have a lot of cravings. Mostly caffeine.

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on October 15, 2012
at 01:37 AM

Add more healthy oils -- cool the eggs in coconut oil or a good grass fed butter. Add bacon, tastes good and will give you a boost!

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on October 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Bacon! Good idea.

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on October 15, 2012
at 12:20 AM

Diet isn't everything. If you don't manage your stress, healthy food won't matter. You'll be susceptible to illness and disease, depression, adrenal fatigue, and a host of other health problems.

Take time throughout your day to practice stress management. It's not that you have to change your life, you just need to allow your body to recuperate after your stress hormones become elevated. Here are some tips that you can easily incorporate into your daily schedule:

http://radcliff.hubpages.com/hub/6-Ways-to-Relieve-Stress-Without-Changing-Your-Schedule

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on October 16, 2012
at 01:00 AM

Very, very true!

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:50 PM

Most people feel like crap for the first 3-4 weeks of Paleo. There are lots of theories why, but I don't think there is anyway around it. You just have carry on and get through it. You will feel better I promise. I agree with the other comments, clean up your diet even more and eat more fat. When I first started Paleo I ate coconut oil straight out of the jar - especially when I was craving carbs - and it always made me feel better. Good Luck

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Meat/bone broth with nice mineral salt might help against low-carb flu.

Another question - should it be low carb? Maybe adding safe starches (potatoes, rice, yams) can be a good idea.

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on October 14, 2012
at 11:22 PM

Consider trying something like the "perfect health diet" with the addition of safe starches like sweet potatoes and white rice. Would help bring up the energy levels for now.

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on October 14, 2012
at 10:48 PM

Sounds like you're still in the throes of carb flu. Give it a couple more weeks!

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:59 AM

I think it might be caffeine withdrawal too!

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